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Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 11:44:44 AM
I started at 296 December 1 with a horrible diet (James coney island 2x week, cheese covered Mexican food 2x week, breakfast from fast food places etc..). As of today im 279; changed my diet to a banana or small bowl of cereal w/2%, smoked turkey for lunch ((not a sandwich just the meat)), something small for dinner and when i do go out it's grilled fish tacos, salad or plain chicken fajitas). I do own an outdoor bike, an exercise bike and 2 big dogs that love to be walked. I would like to be 250 by March and 225 by June.

I don't own a gym membership and am not worried about muscle mass right now.

So how am i doing and how can i achieve my goals?

Any help is appreciated :-)

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JBlitzen  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 11:48:23 AM
What are you drinking?
H46Driver  [Member]
1/6/2012 11:50:52 AM
Eat primarily vegetables and meat/fish/poultry/eggs
Occasionally eat low-sugar fruit and dairy

Walk or ride often

Ditch the cereal, if your turkey is "lunchmeat" i.e. processed, ditch that and eat your veggie/meat dinner leftovers for lunch

Drink water, tea, or black coffee (maybe a bit of unsweetened cream)

Don't worry about hitting a certain weight by a date. It's a process. Keep moving in the right direction.
CasualObserver  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 11:54:56 AM
Do what the flyboy above said.

Best of luck, but at 250 Cola Warrior is still going to kick your ass.
stretch415  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 11:57:00 AM
Drink lots of water before and after meals to make you feel full. Use a calorie tracker. Hit whey protein shakes to make you feel more full and promote muscle growth which burns calories.

I dropped 45 in 3 months doing this along with the gym 3-5 days a week
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 11:58:04 AM
Cola warrior is 2nd on my reasons why March is my goal date; first is a friendly wager between co workers.

Im drinking water and a Dr pepper every other day, the turkey is from a local bbq place.

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Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:00:56 PM
I also snack on those 100 calorie packs of yogurt covered pretzels and i eat a 1lb bag of baby carrots every few days.

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Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/6/2012 12:04:43 PM
Sure, found out about this book here: http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325869452&sr=8-1
My doctor looked at it and said it was spot on. The short version is: a diet consisting of fruits and vegetables and tofu (there are some other non meat protein substitutes), no meat, dairy, breads, fruit juice. If you have the discipline to stick to it (I haven't) you'll lose as much weight as you need to. You can eat all the fruits and vegetables you want, big fucking deal


BigMHoff  [Member]
1/6/2012 12:08:02 PM
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Eat primarily vegetables and meat/fish/poultry/eggs
Occasionally eat low-sugar fruit and dairy

Walk or ride often

Ditch the cereal, if your turkey is "lunchmeat" i.e. processed, ditch that and eat your veggie/meat dinner leftovers for lunch

Drink water, tea, or black coffee (maybe a bit of unsweetened cream)

Don't worry about hitting a certain weight by a date. It's a process. Keep moving in the right direction.


+1
pjomalley  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:23:15 PM
4 hour body by tim ferris, paleo diet. I lost 35 lbs in 2 1/2months
jcncc  [Member]
1/6/2012 12:24:47 PM
You gotta cut the carbs dude. Your joking with the pretzels and carrot sticks, right?
jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:26:10 PM
Drink nothing but water, and eat nothing but natural peanut butter and old fashioned oat meal.
OIF_Vet08-09  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:30:40 PM
Get maleria. You will lose 100 lbs. in a week.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:38:18 PM
Listen to H46Driver- what he describes is pretty close to a Primal diet.

Ditch the 100cal snack packs. Ditch the soda completely.
sethmj1480  [Member]
1/6/2012 12:48:08 PM
Don't crash diet. Portion control is your friend. Start walking or riding your bike until you feel like you're in shape enough to start this exercise plan. You will shed some serious lb's with interval based workouts. That's what the're designed for.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:49:55 PM

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Drink nothing but water, and eat nothing but natural peanut butter and old fashioned oat meal.


This is not healthy.
jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:54:02 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Drink nothing but water, and eat nothing but natural peanut butter and old fashioned oat meal.


This is not healthy.


Eh, a month or so wont kill him and hell be getting protein, fat, and carbs along with a good dose of fiber. OP I used the Abs Diet which isnt actual a "diet" so much as its a guide to correct nutrition. I lost about 30lbs over 8 months with a fundamental change in what I eat and some very minor exercise thrown in. With the way I eat now it takes very little effort to maintain the results and that was 4 years ago.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:54:42 PM
Originally Posted By jcncc:
You gotta cut the carbs dude. Your joking with the pretzels and carrot sticks, right?


Pretzels i can understand as a carb but carrots?


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jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:56:25 PM
Originally Posted By OIF_Vet08-09:
Get maleria. You will lose 100 lbs. in a week.


Giardia dropped about 15lbs off of me in a week!!
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:57:12 PM

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Drink nothing but water, and eat nothing but natural peanut butter and old fashioned oat meal.


This is not healthy.


Eh, a month or so wont kill him and hell be getting protein, fat, and carbs along with a good dose of fiber. OP I used the Abs Diet which isnt actual a "diet" so much as its a guide to correct nutrition. I lost about 30lbs over 8 months with a fundamental change in what I eat and some very minor exercise thrown in. With the way I eat now it takes very little effort to maintain the results and that was 4 years ago.


A diet that cuts out vegetables and limits you to only one source of fat protein and carbs is not something that I can get behind. The vast majority of people would be MUCH better off just eating tons of green veggies, a little fruit and reasonable portions of meat. No sugar, no processed foods, no soda etc.
Healthy and sustainable.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:58:25 PM
Is it possible to continue a loss of roughly 16lbs a month with my current diet?

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RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:58:27 PM

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Originally Posted By jcncc:
You gotta cut the carbs dude. Your joking with the pretzels and carrot sticks, right?


Pretzels i can understand as a carb but carrots?


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Not only a carb, but pretzels are highly processed EMPTY calories. I'm not concerned about the carrots as long as you don't go crazy.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:59:47 PM

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Is it possible to continue a loss of roughly 16lbs a month with my current diet?

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Your current diet isn't very good. Listen to what we're telling you. 16 pounds a month is too extreme. You're going to need to be satisfied with slower weight loss that you can KEEP off by changing your lifestyle and not going on a crash diet.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 12:59:50 PM
I eat about 1/3 - 1/2lb of carrots daily when im working.

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Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:00:59 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Is it possible to continue a loss of roughly 16lbs a month with my current diet?

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Your current diet isn't very good. Listen to what we're telling you. 16 pounds a month is too extreme. You're going to need to be satisfied with slower weight loss that you can KEEP off by changing your lifestyle and not going on a crash diet.


Im all ears but i always have questions.


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jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:01:31 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Drink nothing but water, and eat nothing but natural peanut butter and old fashioned oat meal.


This is not healthy.


Eh, a month or so wont kill him and hell be getting protein, fat, and carbs along with a good dose of fiber. OP I used the Abs Diet which isnt actual a "diet" so much as its a guide to correct nutrition. I lost about 30lbs over 8 months with a fundamental change in what I eat and some very minor exercise thrown in. With the way I eat now it takes very little effort to maintain the results and that was 4 years ago.


A diet that cuts out vegetables and limits you to only one source of fat protein and carbs is not something that I can get behind. The vast majority of people would be MUCH better off just eating tons of green veggies, a little fruit and reasonable portions of meat. No sugar, no processed foods, no soda etc.
Healthy and sustainable.


The oatmeal and peanut butter was a joke, the Abs Diet was a real suggestion as it does exactly what you are recommending.

RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:01:40 PM

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
I eat about 1/3 - 1/2lb of carrots daily when im working.

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So about 80 calories and 16g of carbs worth. 1/2 seems like a lot to me, but I don't think it's going to hurt you.
jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:02:13 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Is it possible to continue a loss of roughly 16lbs a month with my current diet?

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Your current diet isn't very good. Listen to what we're telling you. 16 pounds a month is too extreme. You're going to need to be satisfied with slower weight loss that you can KEEP off by changing your lifestyle and not going on a crash diet.


Ive heard 2-3lbs a week is about the max for healthy loss.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:02:52 PM

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Drink nothing but water, and eat nothing but natural peanut butter and old fashioned oat meal.


This is not healthy.


Eh, a month or so wont kill him and hell be getting protein, fat, and carbs along with a good dose of fiber. OP I used the Abs Diet which isnt actual a "diet" so much as its a guide to correct nutrition. I lost about 30lbs over 8 months with a fundamental change in what I eat and some very minor exercise thrown in. With the way I eat now it takes very little effort to maintain the results and that was 4 years ago.


A diet that cuts out vegetables and limits you to only one source of fat protein and carbs is not something that I can get behind. The vast majority of people would be MUCH better off just eating tons of green veggies, a little fruit and reasonable portions of meat. No sugar, no processed foods, no soda etc.
Healthy and sustainable.


The oatmeal and peanut butter was a joke, the Abs Diet was a real suggestion as it does exactly what you are recommending.

http://makelifeeasyforyou.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/abs-diet-power-foods-0011.jpg


Ok, didn't sound like a joke.

Abs looks ok, but there are better options IMO.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:03:27 PM

Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Is it possible to continue a loss of roughly 16lbs a month with my current diet?

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Your current diet isn't very good. Listen to what we're telling you. 16 pounds a month is too extreme. You're going to need to be satisfied with slower weight loss that you can KEEP off by changing your lifestyle and not going on a crash diet.


Ive heard 2-3lbs a week is about the max for healthy loss.


Yeah, that's pretty much the accepted healthy max loss.
H46Driver  [Member]
1/6/2012 1:08:58 PM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
I eat about 1/3 - 1/2lb of carrots daily when im working.

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Don't worry about the carrots, especially if you'd eat something worse without them.

You may find that your appetite actually decreases if the things you consume are actually nutrient rich and unprocessed.

As far as peanut butter and oatmeal - don't do that. That's nearly nutrient-free eating. Not healthy.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:10:06 PM
Should i switch the carrots out for plain unsalted almonds? Is a protein shake really that much of a better breakfast than a banana and maybe some orange juice?

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jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:12:40 PM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Should i switch the carrots out for plain unsalted almonds? Is a protein shake really that much of a better breakfast than a banana and maybe some orange juice?

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AGH, not OJ, too much sugar and not enough fiber. Drink water and eat an orange instead. Also bananas are way to much simple carbs, either eat it before or immediately after cycling but not any other time.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:12:51 PM
I realize that im asking a lot of questions but it's not that i question any of the help that Im given Im just wanting to do this right and change my diet as necessary.

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jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:14:06 PM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
I realize that im asking a lot of questions but it's not that i question any of the help that Im given Im just wanting to do this right and change my diet as necessary.

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Read the Abs book, it will set you up with a basic understanding of the nutrition you should be following.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:14:09 PM

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Should i switch the carrots out for plain unsalted almonds? Is a protein shake really that much of a better breakfast than a banana and maybe some orange juice?

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I wouldn't completely switch them as almonds are VERY high calorie, although they are also very healthy. Go ahead and have maybe a handful a day and no more. I don't think you need to cut out the carrots.

Banana + orange juice = carbs and sugar. No protein and no fat. You NEED protein and fat. I don't really think a shake is the best answer either. How about eggs and veggies? fat/protein/carbs and it will keep to satisfied. Try 3-4 eggs + sauteed broccoli or zucchini or something. If you don't like eggs I'd just have some sort of meat.

That's my breakfast of choice, I eat 4-6 eggs every single day.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:14:28 PM
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Should i switch the carrots out for plain unsalted almonds? Is a protein shake really that much of a better breakfast than a banana and maybe some orange juice?

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AGH, not OJ, too much sugar and not enough fiber. Drink water and eat an orange instead. Also bananas are way to much simple carbs, either eat it before or immediately after cycling but not any other time.


Agh?

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RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:16:20 PM

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
I realize that im asking a lot of questions but it's not that i question any of the help that Im given Im just wanting to do this right and change my diet as necessary.

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No worries, that's why we hang out in this forum.

You want REAL, healthy, sustainable weight loss?
Start reading here. Do the 30day challenge- your whole way of looking at food will change. You won't regret it.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/
jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:16:55 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Should i switch the carrots out for plain unsalted almonds? Is a protein shake really that much of a better breakfast than a banana and maybe some orange juice?

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I wouldn't completely switch them as almonds are VERY high calorie, although they are also very healthy. Go ahead and have maybe a handful a day and no more. I don't think you need to cut out the carrots.

Banana + orange juice = carbs and sugar. No protein and no fat. You NEED protein and fat. I don't really think a shake is the best answer either. How about eggs and veggies? fat/protein/carbs and it will keep to satisfied. Try 3-4 eggs + sauteed broccoli or zucchini or something. If you don't like eggs I'd just have some sort of meat.

That's my breakfast of choice, I eat 4-6 eggs every single day.


I like oatmeal topped with 2 eggs w/ very runny yolks, and spinach or broccoli for breakfast.
jeffco55  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:19:13 PM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Should i switch the carrots out for plain unsalted almonds? Is a protein shake really that much of a better breakfast than a banana and maybe some orange juice?

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AGH, not OJ, too much sugar and not enough fiber. Drink water and eat an orange instead. Also bananas are way to much simple carbs, either eat it before or immediately after cycling but not any other time.


Agh?

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any fruit juice is basically a soft drink. Orange juice has good stuff in it, but 8oz of orange juice has way more sugar and none of the fiber of just eating an orange and drinking water.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:26:05 PM
Im good with water, while at work i probably drink 8 bottles in 12 hours.

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Hank  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:28:35 PM
I know this isn't popular and IS NOT a sustainable diet, but going low carb could get you where you want to be by mid-late summer- simple enough, just maintain as close to a zero carb diet as possible for about two weeks, then do not go above 20g/day of carbs for a few months save for one "cheat" day a month. The fat will melt off.

The kicker here is that it is NOT A SUSTAINABLE DIET. You WILL lose weight, but you WILL gain it back if you go back to your old habits. You would be best suited making lifestyle/diet changes as have already been outlined here and sticking with them.

Overall health is a marathon, not a sprint, and there is no magic bullet.
sethmj1480  [Member]
1/6/2012 1:42:43 PM
Honestly man, my entire family was obese at one time or another, and the only thing I saw work for any of them was Weight Watchers and exercise. Weight Watchers is a completely sustainable diet based on portion control which I mentioned earlier. It also will not force you into habits you can't commit to off the bat, because the more weight you lose the less you are allowed to take in. Therefore, you adjust to the diet as your body needs to adjust. I can't stress enough how important exercise is. You don't have to blow it out with a big gym routine, just do some light to moderate exercise for ~30 minutes 3 times a week. If you're living a sedentary life right now, just walking at first is good. If you're a little more active, that C25K program I mentioned earlier is perfect. As stated earlier, interval training (which is what the C25K program is based on) is key to fat loss. Here's an article explaining the benefits of interval training link, and here's a website for later with interval training routines link. You're probably going to drop a whole lot of weight in the beginning, then that will drop off. Don't get discouraged, this is natural.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:46:50 PM
Weight watchers is an ok way to deal with portion control, but it allows you to eat complete shit. You can certainly lose weight, but your diet is most likely still garbage unless you're also watching the quality of the foods that you eat.
sethmj1480  [Member]
1/6/2012 1:50:24 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Weight watchers is an ok way to deal with portion control, but it allows you to eat complete shit. You can certainly lose weight, but your diet is most likely still garbage unless you're also watching the quality of the foods that you eat.


I don't disagree with that statement. I believe there are probably much better ways to deal with portion control. This is just the only one I've seen personally, and I know it's sustainable. If you've got a better method I'm sure the OP would love for you to share it.
GUNGUY148  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 1:54:43 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Sure, found out about this book here: http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325869452&sr=8-1
My doctor looked at it and said it was spot on. The short version is: a diet consisting of fruits and vegetables and tofu (there are some other non meat protein substitutes), no meat, dairy, breads, fruit juice. If you have the discipline to stick to it (I haven't) you'll lose as much weight as you need to. You can eat all the fruits and vegetables you want, big fucking deal




Please don't do this diet
Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/6/2012 1:57:50 PM

Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Sure, found out about this book here: http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325869452&sr=8-1
My doctor looked at it and said it was spot on. The short version is: a diet consisting of fruits and vegetables and tofu (there are some other non meat protein substitutes), no meat, dairy, breads, fruit juice. If you have the discipline to stick to it (I haven't) you'll lose as much weight as you need to. You can eat all the fruits and vegetables you want, big fucking deal




Please don't do this diet

Fat chance-ha ha-that I will, but okay, why not?
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 2:03:59 PM

Originally Posted By sethmj1480:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Weight watchers is an ok way to deal with portion control, but it allows you to eat complete shit. You can certainly lose weight, but your diet is most likely still garbage unless you're also watching the quality of the foods that you eat.


I don't disagree with that statement. I believe there are probably much better ways to deal with portion control. This is just the only one I've seen personally, and I know it's sustainable. If you've got a better method I'm sure the OP would love for you to share it.


Sure. Although my personal opinion is that quality > quantity- at least at first.
My portion control goes pretty much like this when I'm being strict:

~5 eggs for breakfast and 6-7 ounces of meat at lunch and dinner. Green veggies you eat as much as you want. 1 piece of fruit, or maybe a cup of berries a day. No snacks, unless you want more green veggies.

There's alittle more to it than that, but it's simpler than figuring out points, and you're actually eating healthy food rather than x amount of points of twinkies.
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 2:05:18 PM

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Sure, found out about this book here: http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325869452&sr=8-1
My doctor looked at it and said it was spot on. The short version is: a diet consisting of fruits and vegetables and tofu (there are some other non meat protein substitutes), no meat, dairy, breads, fruit juice. If you have the discipline to stick to it (I haven't) you'll lose as much weight as you need to. You can eat all the fruits and vegetables you want, big fucking deal




Please don't do this diet

Fat chance-ha ha-that I will, but okay, why not?


No meat for starters...and there is actually sugar in fruit, so although it's good for you, eating "as much as you want" isn't a recipe for success.
Ghetto  [Team Member]
1/6/2012 2:06:26 PM
Not interested in weight watchers but thanks. My sil has lost weight using that but it's just not for me.

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Aimless  [Site Staff]
1/6/2012 2:07:39 PM

Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Sure, found out about this book here: http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325869452&sr=8-1
My doctor looked at it and said it was spot on. The short version is: a diet consisting of fruits and vegetables and tofu (there are some other non meat protein substitutes), no meat, dairy, breads, fruit juice. If you have the discipline to stick to it (I haven't) you'll lose as much weight as you need to. You can eat all the fruits and vegetables you want, big fucking deal




Please don't do this diet

Fat chance-ha ha-that I will, but okay, why not?


No meat for starters...and there is actually sugar in fruit, so although it's good for you, eating "as much as you want" isn't a recipe for success.
Lots of very healthy people have no meat diets, again not that I'm likely to do this, I think I lasted a week I may be wrong in my "all you want" comment but I think fruit, like raw, not juice or anything, is unrestricted. I think I'd have to eat a lot of fucking fruit to keep my current caloric intake up


China-Cornell-Oxford project (I had to skim through the book to find this) found pronounced decreases in heart disease and cancer in areas where meat is not consumed.