overseas training ammo
Any members here part of a military shooting team? I would like to forecast some training ammo (9mm ball) while we are deployed. I have alredy put this through the Chain of Command. I have emailed the AMU but haven't received a reply back yet. I have also emailed our state's States Marksmanship Coordinator for any guidance on this. Our primary weapon overseas will be the pistol so I would like to try and do some actual pistol TRAINING overseas if we can. Typically, its just shoot to qualify, if you don't qualify, you practice your dryfire and remedial traning and re-shoot to qualify again. The non-shooters never learn their mistakes, never become familiar or comfortable enough with the weapons. I would really like to just get some paper targets and let them practice thier groupings.
I searched the archives and couldn't find any but I think in about 2007 or 2008 I saw some You Tube videos on some forum showing soldiers shooting what appeared to be USPSA and IDPA type courses of fire. I would like to do something like that and sell it off as Morale Welfare and Recreation.
Any help or guidance would be appreciated. Thanks,
Mike
Originally Posted By flattop2004:
Any members here part of a military shooting team? I would like to forecast some training ammo (9mm ball) while we are deployed. I have alredy put this through the Chain of Command. I have emailed the AMU but haven't received a reply back yet. I have also emailed our state's States Marksmanship Coordinator for any guidance on this. Our primary weapon overseas will be the pistol so I would like to try and do some actual pistol TRAINING overseas if we can. Typically, its just shoot to qualify, if you don't qualify, you practice your dryfire and remedial traning and re-shoot to qualify again. The non-shooters never learn their mistakes, never become familiar or comfortable enough with the weapons. I would really like to just get some paper targets and let them practice thier groupings.
I searched the archives and couldn't find any but I think in about 2007 or 2008 I saw some You Tube videos on some forum showing soldiers shooting what appeared to be USPSA and IDPA type courses of fire. I would like to do something like that and sell it off as Morale Welfare and Recreation.
Any help or guidance would be appreciated. Thanks,
Mike
Depends on who you are I suppose. I tried putting a course together over there when I was a specialist with my old team leader. Coc shut us down because there was no training value to be had outside of quals. We get back and some major got a hard on for that type of training so it got done. Just put something together and get a higher up to back it.
I am on the Guard Service rifle team, and also currently deployed. Just worry about getting the program and course of fire ideas up for now, when you get over here, the ranges are actually hard to get now, not like a few years ago when all you needed was 2 NCO's to open the range, its almost home station bad or worse. Good news is, your S4 can Get TONS of ammo here. Literally tons of it. You will have your basic load issued and a "required amount on hand" just order it when you get below that level, and if its difficult that way just say its training ammo and request that. It can be done, much easier to do here than at home. So don't worry about the ammo aspect as of yet, get a solid plan together and get the chain to support it then when you get here say " hey remember that cool ninja training we talked about? lets do it, and I need ammo." It will suddenly appear. Also when you are in the RIP/TOA process with your unit your replacing, get thoses guys to give you all thier unaccounted ammo thats above and beyond the required amount your unit will sign for after the TOA. There will be plenty.
You have a great idea and soldiers need the extra firing and training beyond qual standard. I commend you for that.
Where are you going to be? When I was in Kandahar I took my guys to the range almost weekly, especially after the IL guys showed up and needed to work on their crew served familiarity. I was able to order training ammo routinely. When I got back to Kabul my last 3 months and tried the same thing for the new guys I was with I was told there was no such thing as training ammo in-country, which I knew to be untrue based on what I'd been doing for the last year.
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When I was on our state pistol team we had to forecast our training ammo two years out.
