Possible Reservist Deployment dodger....

What more to say......Just jumping units before deployment even to the point of relocating?

Does it really matter? At this point they are starting to draw down the numbers of bodies deploying, and there are more than enough people who WANT to go. Let the deadwood stay behind; they only drag down the worker bees once they are overseas.

+1

Their are plenty of us who are volunteering to go. We dont need someone who doesn't want to be there.

yeah but it's wasted training and wasted paycheck if someone if figuring out a way to game the system to get all the benefits and show none of the work.

happens everyday, let it go

I'm sure it is, but there will always be the "I joined for the college money" crowd, even after 10 years of war.

tc556 guy has it right- some people are in a fantasy world if they think they won't eventually get deployed. As a medical officer it is funny how so many medical problems crop up when deployment time comes- ones they didn't tell anyone about but claim to have existed for years. We need to prosecute these people for falsifying records- everyone does a yearly heath questionaire in the guard- but guys were claiming all kinds of problems from back pain or surgery to even diabetes to avoid deployment.
on the other hand lots of guys /girls concealed problems to get to deploy

I've been begging to get deployed.

Amazing what some people will do to avoid doing the job they signed up to do...

Happens allll the time. It's particularly disgusting to those of us who have to take in the slack. What can ya do?

Take good notes and have a list of names to suggest when the inevitable drawdown comes....

In her future I predict opening an IG complaint against a supervisor who gives her a negative NCOER , she gets prego to avoid another deployment, claims that she was deployed but it was just small time duty in Hawaii.

I work as a contractor with "mobilized soldiers" from a maint company with the ARNG. Majority of them have never been out of the states, much less gone overseas even for training. Some are in units that will never deploy, i.e. state hqs, but others are riding the waves so to speak. They recently found out that they would lose their per diem, but they might get it back. I say the next unit getting mob orders, and has their MOS vacancy in the unit, assign them there. Working stateside should be a reward so to speak for going overseas and dealing with that. Doc is right about the "problems" that come up...1 complains that his cholesterol is out of whack. This is after being on Lipitor and told how to manage it. I've been on Lipitor for over 8 yrs now and really have no problems...this guy is a smoker, maybe a little overweight, and sorta eats what he wants. He's a nice guy and all but he could help his situation somewhat if he tried. BTW, his unit is in mob training right now and he's not going with them for some reason or another.

I'll gladly take her place.

This plus many. All my personal life is straight, got all my medical issues resolved including having my wisdom teeth pulled to resolve a dental Cat3, bug the hell out of my CoC every month, but nothing.

There are so many people that dodge deployments, I personally can't fathom how someone can make SGT in any combat arm branch without a deployment., but alas I see it time and time again.

We have some SSG with us this time whose only prior deployment was to fucking Germany (I wasn't aware someone could deploy there but alas).... He's a complete douche and his sqd is run by a PFC, and he's probably gonna get picked up for SFC.

There are deployment dodgers everywhere, don't even get me started on PT failures, there is no excuse.

I've seen them come back from BCT and AIT with failing scores WTF over?

fuck.... i watched like 20 people dodge my last deployment hell i drove a shit load of em to the airport in the van

We had a few when we mob'd...Fuck em let em stay behind. Its always the shitbags anwyays.

If shes doing so much right now the avoid deploying, even if she did im guessing she'd get knocked up in country anyways to get out.

Kick them to the curb, and forget about worrying over them. Those type are worthless and difficult to get rid of. We have guys in my unit (including me) who are begging anyone and everyone to deploy us. Hell I might step out of combat arms to get a deployment right now.

Someone above heard and she is being investigated now.

Why do you want her to deploy so bad? Honestly if someone doesn't want to deploy I wouldn't want them to deploy with me. It's got to be hard enough over there without having to carry someone's dead weight.

I can understand your point, but on one hand I'd also believe that we all sign on the dotted line knowing what the obligations are, and when someone slides out of that obligation it can cause some heartburn who honor the commitment they've made.

I've seen guys claim "oh I'm suicidal now" 2 weeks before deployment so they don't have to go, no previous history of any issues and are in great health... wtf?

what I don't like is when you get that douche bag who seems to be looking out for himself/herself no matter what, and sadly enough a lot of those people are in leadership positions
what type of message is that sending to your subordinates when you won't make the sacrifice yourself? if you don't like it, then GTFO!

Great now we're going to have more shitbags that don't want to be here dragging the rest of us down even more!!!

I'm soo excited!!

She'll be out of there before the first half of deployment is over due to a pregnancy.

I talked to an Army MP who was coming home the same time my unit was...He said in his unit, over half of the women went home due to pregnancy.

How convenient.

+2; let the whiners and pansies stay behind and allow the REAL WARRIORS out.

+3 I once told a WM to get fucking pregnant and get the fuck out! I was sick of hearing bitch about packing up ! It was 3 time in 1994 that we packed up to head back to Iraq ! Nobody put a gun to your head and made you in list bitch! So shut the fuck up and go back to work!

If they don’t deploy then get them the fuck out.

I don’t want deployment dodgers to deploy make other people’s time even more difficult and possible endanger lives but it is wrong not to hold dodgers accountable.

Allowing a dodger to stay in the Reserves/Guard without deploying, places hardships on those of us who do deploy when our name comes up. The Dodgers receive all the benefits of serving in the Reserves/Guard while avoiding our primary responsibility of serving when and where needed.

Talking with some folks on active duty, deployment dodging is not just a Reserve/Guard phenomenon. It occurs with AD folks as well. Folks spend whole careers hiding out in non-deployable commands (TRADOC) or billets (I/I staff).

CSM Teresa King was appointed as head of the Army's Drill Sergeants School has 29+ year career with no deployments. The Army chose to her over all the Command Sergeants Major with DS time and multiple combat deployments.

In September 2010, my detachment relieved another whose SNCOIC was a Gunny on his first deployment after 18+ years in the Marine Corps. Of course he was lost in the sauce. My unit has several LCpl’s who have deployed twice in under 4 years.


Monk

It's sad to me a Marine agrees with me and army people don't.

I'm confused. Who here is posting who has stated that they support the dodger?

As for the previous comment about the USMC SNCO on his first deployment, maybe the Marines here can answer: whats the timeframe for deployment cycles for the typical USMC unit? I know that 2/7 had been in OIF in '05 before they were in Helmand with me in '08. I know the tour is 7 months...or was...how much CONUS time do they get between deployments?

For an AD "Victor"such as a battalion of Grunts is supposed to be a deployment/dwell time of 1:2
So for a deployment time of 7 months in country the unit is SUPPOSED to get a dwell time of 14 months CONUS
Some of that dwell time will include work up for next deployment.

I am USMCR and officially we get 1:5 ratio
Meaning we are activated for a year (3 months work up, 7 months in country, 2 month demob) and after our year is up we shouldn't have activate again for 5 years. I have been in the USMCR since Feb 2007 and 2 deployments (Iraq 08, Astan 10/11) and almost 23 total months of activated time in that 4 year span.

HOWEVER: that depends on the unit and the mission. My unit PRP (aka Mortuary Affairs) has to meet more operational commitments so if you aren't willing to deploy more often you are "asked" to leave the unit because we can't use your sorry ass..
We have had folks deployed every day since March 2003.

Now some folks say it can be difficult for SNCO's to find billets in deploying units but I don't buy it considering we have been at war for 10 years.
I don't buy it.


Monk

I'm sure her exceptional service as a Drill Sgt was the only thing that contributed to her being chosen.....

Thanks. wasn't sure how it worked for USMC given their shorter deployment times.

Along with some other things that are obvious....where I work, the tables have switched tremendously like I stated in my post on pg 1. It's scary that this is the future of our Army and military as a whole. Hopefully, the Kenyan will be voted out of office, and the military will take another upswing in leadership and some things will change for the better.

No problem but I should have added that some Marine Corps units (MEU and MEF command elements) pull 12-14 months tours to maintain command continuity.

I feel for my brother Army types because a 12 month deployment is just too damn long.
Those crazy 15-18 months some Army folks had to be brutal.
I recall reading the Army preferred a single 12 month deployment during 4 year enlistment as opposed to 2 deployments during that same time.
Obviously that didn't work out and way too many Soldiers pulled 2 or 3 long deployments.
The Army fucks(ed?) it's people hard

AD Marine Corps units try to maintain a schedule that matches the Navy's.
I was told that ships don't do well past 6 months at sea. It gets very expensive to refit and repair ships.
The Marine Corps likes to get 12 months of deployment time in a 3 year assignment to a deployable unit.
That time can come from 2 six months deployments or a single 12 month deployment.
3 years in a deploying status followed by 3 years in non deploying status.
Of course there are plenty of exceptions to what I have said.

It is hard to put into words how much I despise deployment dodgers.
It would be interesting to see how many SMs who are medically non deployable yet are allowed to stay in the military.
Too broke to deploy then IMO they are too broke to serve but I am dick like that.
I have no problem with coming up with creative solutions to allow folks who were wounded in combat to serve how ever they wish.
They have earned that right.
I have personally seen a BTK amputee (bastard was running PT faster than me) serving in theater and read of a few more.


Monk

In retrospect the 2 years flew by. That was 3 months train-up and 19 months in theatre. But I was bounced around to three different provinces in that time so I wasn't doing the same thing continuously. The politics of "stuff" was more wearing than the time itself.

Its funny how many times someones family members can get sick over here(both grandpa's, his mom, and one of his grandmas). We've had one guy take 4 mid-tours all at regular intervals. On top of that he's proud of the fact.

too much in my book no matter what. If I was to run the show 90-120 days.

I couldn't handle that many of those long-assed flights back and forth from A-stan to the USA. Sitting that long in a cramped airplane seat is downright torture for me.

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