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Do new motorcycles go for sticker price?
2/1/2012 8:01:30 AM
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
2/1/2012 8:22:40 AM
Depends on the make and model motorcycle. Even if they do come off the sticker price, it isn't going to be substantial like you see at car dealerships. Think a couple hundred bucks...
2/1/2012 8:23:59 AM
Everything is negotiable, especially in today's economy. Make an offer about 10-15% less than sticker and see how it goes. If there is another dealer in the area and the first one holds fast, wave good-by and tell him where you are going. Leave your contact information no matter what and give it a few days to let him think.
2/1/2012 8:25:15 AM
Markup for dealers on a new bike isn't what you think it is.
If you want to deal, go looking for a year old used bike. They have more room to deal on those.
If you want to deal, go looking for a year old used bike. They have more room to deal on those.
2/1/2012 8:39:40 AM
It depends on the popularity of the bike. Just like cars many bikes sell for more than MSRP depending on demand and the dealer will not budge off the price because if you don't buy it someone else will. Generally though they will come off MSRP a little.
2/1/2012 8:43:52 AM
Depends on the brand, the season, if it is a leftover model, and the dealer. I bought my brand new left over '09 Suzuki Bandit 1250 in early spring in '11. I got it for about $2,000 less then the 2009 MSRP, plus the dealer threw in saddlebags and a new battery for free. It made a very value packed bike to begin with an absolute steal. I would suggest looking at leftover models for a better deal, and/or, start looking online and seeing if dealers will match the prices. A lot depends on the dealer, their mood, and how long the bike has been collecting dust.
I would suggest shopping around and doing a lot of online price quotes. Depending on where you live, be willing to travel up to a few hours away for the best deals. A lot of dealers list new bikes on Ebay so I would suggest checking that first for any hot buys in your area.
Finally, if you're looking at something like a HD, good luck. I have never seen any outstanding buys on a new Sportster.
I would suggest shopping around and doing a lot of online price quotes. Depending on where you live, be willing to travel up to a few hours away for the best deals. A lot of dealers list new bikes on Ebay so I would suggest checking that first for any hot buys in your area.
Finally, if you're looking at something like a HD, good luck. I have never seen any outstanding buys on a new Sportster.
2/1/2012 8:44:08 AM
When I sold bikes, about 10 years ago, the dealer pricing I saw was about a 8-10% markup. I'm not sure it there were other manufacturer hold backs and such.
I'm shopping for a 2012 BMW S1000RR and MSRP is pretty much the standard, with some about $500 more for the bike. Seems to be in demand - at least the color I want,
I'm shopping for a 2012 BMW S1000RR and MSRP is pretty much the standard, with some about $500 more for the bike. Seems to be in demand - at least the color I want,
2/1/2012 8:52:02 AM
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
2/1/2012 9:00:33 AM
Originally Posted By metroplex:
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
2/1/2012 2:38:29 PM
Shop around, and negotiate. I picked up an '11 Sportster in '10 for $1000 under msrp. Got my Tiger last year for $1000 off too. Guess I like to offer $1000 under retail 
2/1/2012 3:45:59 PM
it's been my experience on a current/new model year if they do come off some it's with the delivery/assembly charge and that's only for a couple of hundred and if you're paying cash.
best deals come with a cash deal on new/never sold older model carry overs (ie 2009/2010 ect)
dude I work with recently bought a "new" 2009 suzuki 1300 cruiser for $8k from a local shop; iircc he said a comparibley equip'd 2012 model was $12K
best deals come with a cash deal on new/never sold older model carry overs (ie 2009/2010 ect)
dude I work with recently bought a "new" 2009 suzuki 1300 cruiser for $8k from a local shop; iircc he said a comparibley equip'd 2012 model was $12K
2/1/2012 4:55:01 PM
Depends. Alot of the metric cruisers (Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki) you can get a few years old, but brand new(i.e. 0 miles but its a few years old) for a several thousand off MSRP. Especially if they come out with a new model or one that is replacing it.
Sport bikes I have no idea.
Sport bikes I have no idea.
2/1/2012 5:59:12 PM
In today's world , Knock off 10%. More for 2011, 2010, 2009 leftovers. Money, cash flow ,They NEED it. If 1 does not take it, many more will.
2/1/2012 6:10:12 PM
Look for leftover models from previous years which are still "new".
Different from car shopping.
Different from car shopping.
2/1/2012 7:12:03 PM
Buy lightly used, it's very easy to find a nice bike for half of MSRP that's still not broken in.
Let someone else pay the depreciation.
Let someone else pay the depreciation.
2/1/2012 10:23:57 PM
Like others have posted, there are great leftover deals.
If you buy new, dealers won't move much. However, you can work clothing or aftermarket part deals with the purchase. Many Ducati dealers will work a $1500 package of termis, or apparel when you purchase at MSRP.
If you buy new, dealers won't move much. However, you can work clothing or aftermarket part deals with the purchase. Many Ducati dealers will work a $1500 package of termis, or apparel when you purchase at MSRP.
2/1/2012 11:17:23 PM
Originally Posted By BP03:
Depends. Alot of the metric cruisers (Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki) you can get a few years old, but brand new(i.e. 0 miles but its a few years old) for a several thousand off MSRP.
Depends. Alot of the metric cruisers (Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki) you can get a few years old, but brand new(i.e. 0 miles but its a few years old) for a several thousand off MSRP.
This.
Last fall I bought a "new, old stock" 2009 Yamaha Roadliner. MSRP is $15k but I paid $10k.
2/1/2012 11:46:52 PM
yup my step dad got his brand new 09 1100 vstar (last summer) for less than 7000 after taxes...MSRP is 9290..
I almost bought an 08 1300 vstar, it was a leftover and was selling for 6999...the morning i went in to start talking to salesman about it another guy beat me too it though..MSRP on those is about 10-11k
I almost bought an 08 1300 vstar, it was a leftover and was selling for 6999...the morning i went in to start talking to salesman about it another guy beat me too it though..MSRP on those is about 10-11k
2/2/2012 2:18:07 AM
Unless your a complete glutton for punishment buy a used bike.
No sense flushing 2-5k in depreciation on a new bike.
Small to medium displacement dual sport or standard FTW
Plenty of good deals to be found especially now.
Get a good DS and have a blast.
No sense flushing 2-5k in depreciation on a new bike.
Small to medium displacement dual sport or standard FTW
Plenty of good deals to be found especially now.
Get a good DS and have a blast.
2/2/2012 11:55:44 AM
Originally Posted By swingset:
Buy lightly used, it's very easy to find a nice bike for half of MSRP that's still not broken in.
Let someone else pay the depreciation.
Buy lightly used, it's very easy to find a nice bike for half of MSRP that's still not broken in.
Let someone else pay the depreciation.
Absolutely. Buying new is a waste of money unless there is a brand spanking new model of something you want. We usually don't buy new. When I was shopping around for my last bike the dealers were insane for the bike I wanted. I bought a couple year old one that looked showroom new and had very low miles for about half price. As a bonus it had a couple hundred bucks worth of extras on it.
2/2/2012 12:59:31 PM
Duly noted.
Thanks.
I'll shop around.
Thanks.
I'll shop around.
2/2/2012 5:49:22 PM
Originally Posted By BossMaverick:
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
Originally Posted By metroplex:
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
I bought my 2008 CBR1000RR in 2009 when Honda was getting ready to come out with the 10 models. They heavily discounted them to move them out of the inventory. Bike sales were down something like 45% from the previous year. I paid $8K for a NIB bike with a $12K sticker. And they financed it at .99% for 3 years. Getting good deals during hard times is pretty sweet if you are fortunate enough to have good credit and a job.
2/2/2012 8:12:28 PM
Originally Posted By LarryThePirate:
I bought my 2008 CBR1000RR in 2009 when Honda was getting ready to come out with the 10 models. They heavily discounted them to move them out of the inventory. Bike sales were down something like 45% from the previous year. I paid $8K for a NIB bike with a $12K sticker. And they financed it at .99% for 3 years. Getting good deals during hard times is pretty sweet if you are fortunate enough to have good credit and a job.
Originally Posted By BossMaverick:
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
Originally Posted By metroplex:
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
I bought my 2008 CBR1000RR in 2009 when Honda was getting ready to come out with the 10 models. They heavily discounted them to move them out of the inventory. Bike sales were down something like 45% from the previous year. I paid $8K for a NIB bike with a $12K sticker. And they financed it at .99% for 3 years. Getting good deals during hard times is pretty sweet if you are fortunate enough to have good credit and a job.
I would have easily snatched up one of those new CBR1000RR's for $9k - but I don't have the skill or confidence to really ride one of them. I was busy caressing the twin spar frame and checking out the nice welds, when the salesperson came by and said that I had to build up the skill. He wasn't pushing the 1000RR on me, but the discounted price was really attractive.
2/2/2012 9:05:18 PM
Depends...
Motorcycle prices have been scooting up at about 6-8% a year, sometimes more. Price increases have been pretty consistent.
Given the economy some makers have completely suspended manufacture of some models. Case in point: You could NOT find a Suzuki Vstrom 650 summer of 2010. There were other models where the maker simply said "we ain't making any this year". If you wanted one, and could find one, it was full sticker because there was no supply. I had one loacl dealer travelling all over new england buying up foreclosed and goin out of business competitiors because he needed bikes to sell.
I have found that I like to buy bikes in October or November. I ca usually get a rally good price. No many buyers in october in snow country, and the dealer has a choice: He can sell it to me, right now, at a healthy discount (like $1500 off on a $7000 bike) or he can sit on it all winter, play floor plan since he's already had this bike for sixn months) and then try to sell last years model with next years model is also on the floor.
Want a discount in March? You can get them on last years models. There isn't a lot of incentive for a dealer to deal on a 2012 in march 2012.
I'll second the "buy used" line. I got into a 2008 BMW F650GS, with thousands of dollars in upgrades and options (BMW vario cases, Corbin heated seat, PIAA HID lamps, etc) worth well over $12,000 total for $5,800. It had less than 6500 miles. Also got into a 2008 Honda 420 ATV with less than 700 miles, equipped with winch and other goodies, for $3200. Shop hard...
Motorcycle prices have been scooting up at about 6-8% a year, sometimes more. Price increases have been pretty consistent.
Given the economy some makers have completely suspended manufacture of some models. Case in point: You could NOT find a Suzuki Vstrom 650 summer of 2010. There were other models where the maker simply said "we ain't making any this year". If you wanted one, and could find one, it was full sticker because there was no supply. I had one loacl dealer travelling all over new england buying up foreclosed and goin out of business competitiors because he needed bikes to sell.
I have found that I like to buy bikes in October or November. I ca usually get a rally good price. No many buyers in october in snow country, and the dealer has a choice: He can sell it to me, right now, at a healthy discount (like $1500 off on a $7000 bike) or he can sit on it all winter, play floor plan since he's already had this bike for sixn months) and then try to sell last years model with next years model is also on the floor.
Want a discount in March? You can get them on last years models. There isn't a lot of incentive for a dealer to deal on a 2012 in march 2012.
I'll second the "buy used" line. I got into a 2008 BMW F650GS, with thousands of dollars in upgrades and options (BMW vario cases, Corbin heated seat, PIAA HID lamps, etc) worth well over $12,000 total for $5,800. It had less than 6500 miles. Also got into a 2008 Honda 420 ATV with less than 700 miles, equipped with winch and other goodies, for $3200. Shop hard...
2/2/2012 9:24:06 PM
It's a buyers market. Find the bike you want and shop around. A deal will pop up.
2/3/2012 12:23:56 AM
Originally Posted By metroplex:
I would have easily snatched up one of those new CBR1000RR's for $9k - but I don't have the skill or confidence to really ride one of them. I was busy caressing the twin spar frame and checking out the nice welds, when the salesperson came by and said that I had to build up the skill. He wasn't pushing the 1000RR on me, but the discounted price was really attractive.
Originally Posted By LarryThePirate:
I bought my 2008 CBR1000RR in 2009 when Honda was getting ready to come out with the 10 models. They heavily discounted them to move them out of the inventory. Bike sales were down something like 45% from the previous year. I paid $8K for a NIB bike with a $12K sticker. And they financed it at .99% for 3 years. Getting good deals during hard times is pretty sweet if you are fortunate enough to have good credit and a job.
Originally Posted By BossMaverick:
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
Originally Posted By metroplex:
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
Sorta half heartedly thinking about getting a small motorcycle for commuting to work and/or light touring.
Been many years since I set foot in a bike dealer showroom.
Is sticker the price they get or will they come off sticker?
It depends on the dealer and brand/model. I saw half dozen new CBR1000RR's for $4000 under sticker at a year-end clearance and they were all brand new. I got my Ducati 696 brand new for just under sticker but came with several grand worth of Ducati mods from the dealer. If you place an order, they generally want sticker. I'd try to find one in-stock and work with the salesperson, there aren't a lot of options to order like a car aside from ABS these days.
I don't doubt that part in bold. The common high cost sport bike models really took a hit from a lack of sales, probably more then any other type of bike. I think my local dealer might still have leftover new '09 models.
I bought my 2008 CBR1000RR in 2009 when Honda was getting ready to come out with the 10 models. They heavily discounted them to move them out of the inventory. Bike sales were down something like 45% from the previous year. I paid $8K for a NIB bike with a $12K sticker. And they financed it at .99% for 3 years. Getting good deals during hard times is pretty sweet if you are fortunate enough to have good credit and a job.
I would have easily snatched up one of those new CBR1000RR's for $9k - but I don't have the skill or confidence to really ride one of them. I was busy caressing the twin spar frame and checking out the nice welds, when the salesperson came by and said that I had to build up the skill. He wasn't pushing the 1000RR on me, but the discounted price was really attractive.
You made the right decision and should give yourself credit for realizing that. Liter bikes are not for made for you to learn from your mistakes. They are very unforgiving. If you have any doubts about you abilities, you are better off having stepped back from that smoking deal. I had been riding for 40 years and had been riding a VFR800 for three years before getting the CBR and it was still a shock to discover just how fucking fast a CBR1000RR is. I don't think I'll ever get close to riding it to its limits. But it sure is a blast. It's like getting shot out of a cannon. Just willing it to change direction is all it takes to lean it into a curve at insane speeds.
