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zoe17  [Team Member]
4/22/2012 9:46:56 PM
Time to trade or sell my Versys. I love it for commuting, but the wife does not like riding it. We rode a 07' 1300 Vulcan, 07' 1700 Road Star Midnight Silverado S, Stratoliner 1900? I have only owned a 750 Shadow, so I thought all baggers where SLOW, FAT PIGS. Well my mind has changed. They handle better than I thought. I like the Yamaha, but no liquid cooling. Any suggestions for a bike under 10K, hard bags(no studded leather bags), windshield or fairing okay, footboards for the wife. I owned in the past a V-65, 750 Interceptor,CBR600, 900RR.

I was wanting to buy a FJR. If I could just find one locally with a back rest to ride the wife on, I would be set as to go buy. Will the FJR be less comfortable, or a Connie for that matter? I want the wife comfortable so she rides with me more. She will not EVER be driving one, according to her.

Thanks
Hoplophile  [Member]
4/22/2012 10:08:05 PM
I bought a Roadliner last fall. It was a 2009 "new, old stock" with 1 mile on the odometer and the full factory warranty for under $10k. I am totally, absolutely, completely and in all other ways in love with this bike. The handling is amazing for such a big bike and the power is unbelievable.



keroppl  [Team Member]
4/22/2012 10:19:57 PM
Rode a Vulcan 1700 Voyager and Nomad along with a Concours 14 this weekend.

The 1700 is still a slow fat pig compared to the connie. However, it'll probably win the comfort test. The Voyager has all the bells and whistles too. The connie 14 has nice things like traction control and ABS though. Starting with 2010 models I believe.


I was only on em for 30 minutes though, so my experience with em is pretty limited.
dreadpiratejeff  [Member]
4/22/2012 11:04:28 PM
The only problem I have with the big bikes is the dry weight. My dad has a Honda VTC1800C he got for < $10K... it was 2 years old and had never been unpacked from the crate. The dealer sold it cheap just to make room in the warehouse.

Anyway, that bike is HEAVY. Just picking it up off the kickstand is a chore. In fact, my dad's been looking at trading it in on an older Silverwing or Goldwing because they're actually lighter than the big V-Twin cruisers and just as powerful.

I ride a Suzuki Intruder Volusia 800 and other than being a bit vibratey at 75 because of the high RPMs it's perfect for riding up and down the road all day long, and because it is several hundred pounds less than the big crusiers, it's a LOT easier to control and move around, especially after a long day of riding.

But honestly, if I replace it with something I plan on riding over distance again, I'm going to serisouly look at the BMW bikes... they are super comfy, light, powerful and built for riding all day long without beating you to death.
BP03  [Team Member]
4/22/2012 11:05:04 PM
I have a Star 1100..but almost got a 1300 ... If you really like the Yamahas I'd check that out...Middle size to big...but not as large as the Stratos or Roadliners, decent HP, water cooled, and they have a touring version. You can get leftovers for thousands off MSRP
fxntime  [Team Member]
4/22/2012 11:14:02 PM
Don't turn your nose up at a bike just because it doesn't have liquid cooling. It's a relatively new cooling system for bikes and they were running air cooled for decades before someone decided to complicate them further. I guess if you sat in traffic in the deep south I can see it or if you are riding a HP king, but for cruising................I looked for a bike that didn't have it because I wanted simplicity over more crap in the way and more maintenance to do.
zoe17  [Team Member]
4/22/2012 11:26:22 PM
Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
I bought a Roadliner last fall. It was a 2009 "new, old stock" with 1 mile on the odometer and the full factory warranty for under $10k. I am totally, absolutely, completely and in all other ways in love with this bike. The handling is amazing for such a big bike and the power is unbelievable.

http://www.kennethrberry.com/content/Liner/Img_1931.jpg





I know bikes have been doing for many years with air cooling, just thinking of longer motor life and getting stuck idling on I-40 because of a crash.
DeadSled  [Member]
4/22/2012 11:27:40 PM
Victory?
bmmc  [Team Member]
4/22/2012 11:33:30 PM
Originally Posted By DeadSled:
Victory?


+1 or a Yamaha.
Hoplophile  [Member]
4/22/2012 11:56:39 PM
Originally Posted By dreadpiratejeff:
The only problem I have with the big bikes is the dry weight. ...

Anyway, that bike is HEAVY. Just picking it up off the kickstand is a chore. In fact, my dad's been looking at trading it in on an older Silverwing or Goldwing because they're actually lighter than the big V-Twin cruisers and just as powerful.

Stop by a Yammy dealer and try lifting a Roadliner or Stratoliner off the stand. They are big bikes but they lift off the stand like nothing and when you're moving down the road they don't feel big at all. Aluminum frame, an engine design that keeps as much of the weight down low and 50/50 weight distribution makes it feel much smaller and lighter than it really is.

Hoplophile  [Member]
4/23/2012 12:00:45 AM
Originally Posted By DeadSled:
Victory?

I really, really like Victory motorcycles on paper but when I was shopping around there were not any dealers near me where I could see one in person. A buddy of mine is scheduling a test ride of a Cross Country in the next week or two and a group of us are riding out to the dealer with him. I look forward to finally getting a look at them.
Rabon  [Team Member]
4/23/2012 1:08:37 AM
Originally Posted By zoe17:
Time to trade or sell my Versys. I love it for commuting, but the wife does not like riding it. We rode a 07' 1300 Vulcan, 07' 1700 Road Star Midnight Silverado S, Stratoliner 1900? I have only owned a 750 Shadow, so I thought all baggers where SLOW, FAT PIGS. Well my mind has changed. They handle better than I thought. I like the Yamaha, but no liquid cooling. Any suggestions for a bike under 10K, hard bags(no studded leather bags), windshield or fairing okay, footboards for the wife. I owned in the past a V-65, 750 Interceptor,CBR600, 900RR.

I was wanting to buy a FJR. If I could just find one locally with a back rest to ride the wife on, I would be set as to go buy. Will the FJR be less comfortable, or a Connie for that matter? I want the wife comfortable so she rides with me more. She will not EVER be driving one, according to her.

Thanks

If you are going to spend much time riding 2 up get a bike which is large enough (physical size) that neither you or your passenger is cramped, with larger heavier bikes wind is less of an issue, Heavy is good.
I don't care for or want water cooling it's a personal thing, if you want it get it. Decide what you need before you buy its all expensive to add later. Many of the metrics have fairly small fuel tanks make sure the models you look at have the range you need, if you need electrical acc make sure the model your looking at has an electrical system which can support them, think about what you need for weather protection as well as enough luggage space to accomodate the wife. If you want cruise control get it when you buy.

JohnSmith6073  [Team Member]
4/23/2012 1:26:29 AM
My old old lad grew crampy on the back of my Connie, but I loved it. Doesn't come with a backrest though.

I,m not sure sure I can ride a cruiser anymore after being spoiled by my Connie, they are indeed slow pigs.
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
4/23/2012 1:30:24 AM
I bought a first year vtx 1800 and love it however it may not be what you are looking for. I find it uncomfortable on longer rides. It is a great muscle cruiser. I love playing around with the harley guys. The sport bikes still own it but it still amazes me how much torque these big twins have.

I think I would love a FJR or Concours but I dont have the budget for one. The 1300 VTX always looked like a much more practical bike on paper to me but I bought mine right after high school so reasonable and practical was not what I was after
Rabon  [Team Member]
4/23/2012 1:47:42 AM
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I bought a first year vtx 1800 and love it however it may not be what you are looking for. I find it uncomfortable on longer rides. It is a great muscle cruiser. I love playing around with the harley guys. The sport bikes still own it but it still amazes me how much torque these big twins have.

I think I would love a FJR or Concours but I dont have the budget for one. The 1300 VTX always looked like a much more practical bike on paper to me but I bought mine right after high school so reasonable and practical was not what I was after

Just curious what is your fuel range on your VTX 1800 ?

Glock63  [Member]
4/23/2012 2:21:50 AM
My brother just picked up a VTX 1300 2 weeks ago. I dont have a lot of miles on it yet, but am suitably impressed so far. It runs smooth, and has acceptable power. It will run right with the bigger 96ci harleys if they are stock. It handles nimbly for a cruiser, and is light enough that anyone can handle it. MPG is in the high 40's. I also have 2 friends that run the bigger VTX 1800 with nothing but good things to say about them, although in my experience they don't handle as well as its little 1300cc brother.
vepr223  [Member]
4/23/2012 6:37:46 AM
I really like my Road Star Warrior. It's lighter and faster than most of the others.
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
4/23/2012 10:30:16 AM
Originally Posted By Rabon:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I bought a first year vtx 1800 and love it however it may not be what you are looking for. I find it uncomfortable on longer rides. It is a great muscle cruiser. I love playing around with the harley guys. The sport bikes still own it but it still amazes me how much torque these big twins have.

I think I would love a FJR or Concours but I dont have the budget for one. The 1300 VTX always looked like a much more practical bike on paper to me but I bought mine right after high school so reasonable and practical was not what I was after

Just curious what is your fuel range on your VTX 1800 ?



I want to say about 150 but around town I have had the fuel light come on at 75 miles if I have been playing too much. Got kind of sketchy going from AK to Canada a few times. Keep in mind though that my 02 had a smaller tank and internal pump than the later models. I think 05 or so is when they switched but it has been a while since I paid attention to that stuff. Basically the F model was built for me. A lot of the changes I did to my C were close to what they did when they came up with the F.

Makes me a little sad they killed the 1800 Doing stand up throttle wheelies passed a hot rodded electra glide was a fun time. I actually had to replace my for seals around 15K miles from excessive wheelies. I would be willing to bet not many cruiser riders have that problem.(Either the power or the stupidity)
zoe17  [Team Member]
4/24/2012 1:31:53 PM
Anyone know about Kawasaki 1600/1300 nomads?
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
4/24/2012 1:36:54 PM
I really think that any of the big Jap bikes will do you fine. I have ridden honda my whole life but rode with numerous Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki bikes. Find the one you like the look or features on and ride the piss out of it
Stasher1  [Member]
4/24/2012 3:20:17 PM
Water-cooled, powerful, confortable for extended cruises...Honda Valkyrie. Not a twin, but it meets the other requirements, and if it's anything like the GoldWing, it will run forever as long as you keep the timing belts changed.

They also sound pretty sick with the 6-6 drag pipes.
zoe17  [Team Member]
4/24/2012 4:02:05 PM
I have a riding buddy with a 105? CUT Harley that I want umm... well shut up about metric cruisers. So comfortable and fast red light to red light or 1/8 or 1/4 mile. Just for giggles
ARChoo  [Member]
4/24/2012 8:16:19 PM
Love my Suzuki C109. Loads of power and you can get them pretty cheap.



I also like the Kawasaki Vaquero. Lots of bang for the buck.
ARChoo  [Member]
4/24/2012 8:21:33 PM
One more thing. Try out the Vulcan 2000. That thing is a beast.
Philmore  [Team Member]
4/24/2012 10:38:08 PM
A lot of the big bikes balance different depending on the configuration. Nothing wrong with a Connie or any of the adventure/tourers. You just need to sit on them and see how they feel. Also, look for bikes you can get and afford accessories for because if she starts riding along more, comfort is going to be king. Add-ons like aftermarket seats, backrests, etc., may be the order of the day.

There is a difference in vibration between the twins and parallells - more of a chug and "thicker" buzz at higher speeds than the parallels. They have a tighter higher frequency type buzz that some people don't like, some do and others don't notice.

Good luck on it. I have ridden older HD's and Hondas, but now ride a Volusia 800 Suzuki. Good size for me. If you like the handling of the Honda 1300, try it out with a passenger to see if it still rides good for you with the extra weight. They are nice bikes. Hard to beat the 1300 - 1800 range metrics.

Also, check out a RoadKing or ElectraGlide just for comparison. Never hurts to see what's out there on the HD side as well.
zoe17  [Team Member]
4/25/2012 12:32:11 AM
Originally Posted By Philmore:
A lot of the big bikes balance different depending on the configuration. Nothing wrong with a Connie or any of the adventure/tourers. You just need to sit on them and see how they feel. Also, look for bikes you can get and afford accessories for because if she starts riding along more, comfort is going to be king. Add-ons like aftermarket seats, backrests, etc., may be the order of the day.

There is a difference in vibration between the twins and parallells - more of a chug and "thicker" buzz at higher speeds than the parallels. They have a tighter higher frequency type buzz that some people don't like, some do and others don't notice.

Good luck on it. I have ridden older HD's and Hondas, but now ride a Volusia 800 Suzuki. Good size for me. If you like the handling of the Honda 1300, try it out with a passenger to see if it still rides good for you with the extra weight. They are nice bikes. Hard to beat the 1300 - 1800 range metrics.

Also, check out a RoadKing or ElectraGlide just for comparison. Never hurts to see what's out there on the HD side as well.


An Street Glide with a 120 S/S would be nice but I need to save.
Hoplophile  [Member]
4/25/2012 1:04:05 AM
Originally Posted By zoe17:
An Street Glide with a 120 S/S would be nice but I need to save.

That's just it. I spent several weekends helping my buddy update his Electra Glide with an S&S 111, new primary, new exhaust, etc. He put in a Baker OD6 transmission last year so he basically has the exact bike that I wanted except that I'd do a Road King without the fairing.

It's one badass bike but he's spent more on aftermarket components than I spent on my whole bike just so he can keep up with my Roadliner off the line and he still can't keep up if the road gets twisty.
zoe17  [Team Member]
4/25/2012 2:14:04 PM
I have been reading about the Stratoliner, I like it. I rode my neighbors 06' with pipe and power commander/cobra something tuner, I liked it more.
zoe17  [Team Member]
4/30/2012 10:23:49 PM
Have been looking at and riding the following

1700/1600 Nomad/Vulcan

Yamaha Stratoliner

Yamaha Road Star Midnight Silverado S

Honda VTX1800

I like the Vaquero thread but not in my price range.

Any suggestions?
BP03  [Team Member]
4/30/2012 11:09:18 PM
You can get leftover Road Stars for a great price since they stopped making them...They have a huge aftermarket for them too, and tons of engine/performance parts..

Dont know much about the others though!
ARChoo  [Member]
5/1/2012 2:07:26 PM
http://jonesboro.craigslist.org/mcy/2990040019.html

Take the plunge.
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
5/1/2012 4:22:23 PM
Originally Posted By ARChoo:
http://jonesboro.craigslist.org/mcy/2990040019.html

Take the plunge.


I am not super familiar but that seems kinda high to me
usp4u  [Team Member]
5/1/2012 4:48:52 PM
Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
Originally Posted By DeadSled:
Victory?

I really, really like Victory motorcycles on paper but when I was shopping around there were not any dealers near me where I could see one in person. A buddy of mine is scheduling a test ride of a Cross Country in the next week or two and a group of us are riding out to the dealer with him. I look forward to finally getting a look at them.


My cousin owns a Victory/Polaris dealership and sells the heck out of them. Nearly every one that he sells is to a H-D convert. They really seem to be holding up well.
RichBaker  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 6:58:52 AM
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By Rabon:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I bought a first year vtx 1800 and love it however it may not be what you are looking for. I find it uncomfortable on longer rides. It is a great muscle cruiser. I love playing around with the harley guys. The sport bikes still own it but it still amazes me how much torque these big twins have.

I think I would love a FJR or Concours but I dont have the budget for one. The 1300 VTX always looked like a much more practical bike on paper to me but I bought mine right after high school so reasonable and practical was not what I was after

Just curious what is your fuel range on your VTX 1800 ?



I want to say about 150 but around town I have had the fuel light come on at 75 miles if I have been playing too much. Got kind of sketchy going from AK to Canada a few times. Keep in mind though that my 02 had a smaller tank and internal pump than the later models. I think 05 or so is when they switched but it has been a while since I paid attention to that stuff. Basically the F model was built for me. A lot of the changes I did to my C were close to what they did when they came up with the F.

Makes me a little sad they killed the 1800 Doing stand up throttle wheelies passed a hot rodded electra glide was a fun time. I actually had to replace my for seals around 15K miles from excessive wheelies. I would be willing to bet not many cruiser riders have that problem.(Either the power or the stupidity)


I have friend that had a Venture, he bent the frame at the steering head doing wheelies.....
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 10:52:16 AM
Originally Posted By RichBaker:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By Rabon:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I bought a first year vtx 1800 and love it however it may not be what you are looking for. I find it uncomfortable on longer rides. It is a great muscle cruiser. I love playing around with the harley guys. The sport bikes still own it but it still amazes me how much torque these big twins have.

I think I would love a FJR or Concours but I dont have the budget for one. The 1300 VTX always looked like a much more practical bike on paper to me but I bought mine right after high school so reasonable and practical was not what I was after

Just curious what is your fuel range on your VTX 1800 ?



I want to say about 150 but around town I have had the fuel light come on at 75 miles if I have been playing too much. Got kind of sketchy going from AK to Canada a few times. Keep in mind though that my 02 had a smaller tank and internal pump than the later models. I think 05 or so is when they switched but it has been a while since I paid attention to that stuff. Basically the F model was built for me. A lot of the changes I did to my C were close to what they did when they came up with the F.

Makes me a little sad they killed the 1800 Doing stand up throttle wheelies passed a hot rodded electra glide was a fun time. I actually had to replace my for seals around 15K miles from excessive wheelies. I would be willing to bet not many cruiser riders have that problem.(Either the power or the stupidity)


I have friend that had a Venture, he bent the frame at the steering head doing wheelies.....


It is just full on stupid fun
6731HBAR  [Team Member]
5/9/2012 4:37:00 PM
Originally Posted By ARChoo:
One more thing. Try out the Vulcan 2000. That thing is a beast.


THIS.

I have a 2006, I bought new off the showroom floor with aftermarket pipes, and windshield in 2008 or 2009. Previously owned a 99 Nomad. The V2K, if I run it 70- 65 mph will go about 180 miles or so before the fuel light comes on, so could probably go a little over 200 on it. It is a big heavy bike, and rides great in my opinion. I doubt there is another vtwin that even comes close, maybe the Honda 1800. I paid I think just over $9300 or so for it. I don't have a lot of miles because of a surgery or 2 and a couple of busy summers. This is not really a canyon carver, but I am an old fat guy and this thing will run you way past the speed limit in a hurry. Yeah I know it won't beat a sport bike, but I aint riding a sport bike. The belts on some of the 2004-2005 had some issues ( noise-squealing), but mine has never been a problem . I like the bike, if I had to do it again, I would probably buy it again. Any specific questions feel free to contact me.