Full Black by Brad Thor

Just got through reading the Kindle edition of Full Black, Brad Thor's latest Scot Harvath novel.
I have really enjoyed the Harvath series, but I gotta say...bleccch. The book seemed rushed, poorly fleshed out and waaaay oversimplified. The Big Bad Guy in the book is way too easy to and everything is wrapped up way too quickly. I think Thor has a bad case of Tom Clancy-style falling too much in love with his character.

good to know, thanks.

And to think that I actually thought about giving Thor another try after the utter dissapointment that he called the 'Athena Project'. I may just go back and read some of the first Scott Harvath novels instead.

The early stuff is good, but Vince Flynn is better.

Just got through reading Lions of Lucerne, picked it up Saturday night and finished Monday morning. I could not put it down. I got Path of the Assassin last night and am about to start it. I'm hooked on this series.

I'm currently reading Thor's Path of the Assassin (harvath book 2) and while this and the first are good so far, I'm still liking Vince Flynn better. I'll probably continue to read the rest of the Harvath books, but I'm still trying to find one to measure up to Flynn's Term Limits.

I agree that Flynn is better in general, but I still liked Thor until now. Of course, I didn't even read Project Athena...

I just finished it up a few mins ago. And I totally agree with the OP. This might have been my last Brad Thor book.

I'll probably keep reading them, but man Full Black seemed like it stopped about halfway through. I would expect 500-700 pages out of a good story, not 350.

It almost seemed like he farmed this book out to a ghostwriter, honestly.

I liked his eary books, then gradually got tired of them. The Athena book totally turned me off.

And as much as I like Vince Flynn, the whole "anti-terrorist agency saving the world" genre is getting a bit tiresome. No matter who the author is, it's the same thing over and over...

Why doesn't one of these authors kill their character? It would be so unexpected. I felt everything wrapped up pretty easily with no twists. If Harvath had died I think I would have been shocked.

I liked Path and Lions, except the avalanche in Lions was completely unbelievable (fake) and I don't even live in a snow state.

I just got Foreign Influence, but I have not started it yet.

Thor is one of the guys I can stomach. Him and Andy McNab.

Agreed. I am so sick of these robot main characters that always win in the end. If I wanted to read about superheroes, I'd pick up a comic book.

I liked Stephen Hunter's stuff, but he seems to have slipped a little with the Swagger series recently. You can't re-hash the same character over and over and expect to keep it fresh. I like a series that each book introduces a minor character that becomes a main character in a follow-up book. Hunter did this a bit with the Earl/ Bob Lee Swagger books, but father and son were basically the same character just in different times.

I think the books would be more interesting if authors steered away from "franchise" characters and just kept a loose character connection between volumes in a series.

But, what do I know? I'm not on the best-sellers list. I still might have to check out Thor's new book. At least it's not left wing PC crap.

I know this might be better suited in the movies sections but does anyone think Warner Bros will ever make Lions into a movie? I think with the right director this series could be a box office hit. I just finished up Path of the Assassin and loved it although I need to quit reading your post about how bad the series gets in the end

^^ i had heard that The Athena Project was going to the movies, which I havent read. So maybe if there is success with that in the box office they would think about the Harvath series.

One other thing that bugs me about books these days...have you ever noticed that the heroe is always ruggedly good-looking / chick magnet / superhuman? It get's boring...

For once I'd like to read about an average Joe.

+1 Also, this just my opinion, so take it for whats its worth, but it seems to me that Thor is living vicariously thru Harvath. I think they both went to USC and his discription of Harvath seems very similar to him.

I just finished Blowback last night and I'll start Takedown tonight. Overall the books are good but I still like Vince Flynn and the Mitch Rapp character better.

I just finished Blowback and am about to start Takedown and was just wondering what everyone's favorite Scot Harvath book is. From reading these post i can see it wont be Full Black but from the ones i have read so far my favorite is State of the Union.

So far I like Takedown. It's looking like it might be my favorite so far.

I agree Athena Project left some sorely dissapointed and it sounds like Full Black will be the same. But I just started Vince Flynn's series and it sounds like I will enjoy it.

Vince Flynn is great. The Mitch Rapp character is much better than Scott Harvath. I finished the Flynn novels before I started working on Brad Thor's books and now I can't wait for Vince Flynn's new novel "Kill Shot" that's scheduled for release on Nov. 1st. It looks like it's a follow on to American Assassin telling the story of the young Mitch Rapp.

Are there any authors that have a book series with a character like Clancy's John Clark? One of my all time favorite books is Without Remorse. I agree with most of the statements about Scot Harvath being "to perfect." Some of the books i have read so far are like those popcorn flicks you go see and its just good for entertainment but don't have that deep of a story.

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"Term Limits" is my favorite Flynn novel.

Full Black was over too quick. Come on Brad, we know you're in here! I think The Apostle was my favorite Thor book. Maybe because it was the first one of his I read. Lions was good too. I didn't like Path as much.

Looking forward to Flynn's next one and I'll buy the next Athena book, but I'd rather see a deeper, darker Harvath book.

If you haven't read Full Black yet, read Foreign Influence first, Foreign Influence ends at the start of Full Black.

I just finished Full Black. I love Brad, but I have to say there was a little disappointment in the ending. It was a definite page turner, and I finished it in about 2 days, but as I realized there were fewer and fewer pages left I thought we should have been in the middle of the book. The ending just came very suddenly. The buildup and the middle were great, but it should have been longer.

As far as Vince Flynn, I want to start reading his books. Would you recommend I start with a particular one and work my way through, or am I good to go starting wherever?

Thanks, and I did I just forgot to post back here. I like Foreign Influence, but it seemed really far fetched. Of course my knowledge is just what I learned in other spy vs. spy books/movies. But that dammed Harvath, hes just toooo good, again. I'm taking a break from Thor. I read "The Five People you meet in Heaven." (really good read) and now I'm onto "On Killing."
Ill hit Thor again, sometime.

I would read them in order. Its not required because he always gives backstory when you need it. To me its just more enjoyable to read them chronologically.

Definitely go in the order they were released. Like was said above each book gives the back story but it's always good to know the full details and not just the cliff notes version.

Good to know.
I just got a bunch of Flynn books waiting on Full Black to come out in paperback.

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