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 how does the liner for a usgi poncho work?
cutlass1972  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 7:23:06 AM EST
It was my impression that the poncho liner was to be worn inside of the poncho while you are wearing it. After inspecting it now that I have ordered one online, the liner has no head hole, but the tie straps seem to line up with the grommets.

So is the liner just supposed to be used when you use the poncho as a sleeping bag, and not when you wear it as a poncho?
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cvtrpr  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 7:40:51 AM EST
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.
Matt45  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 7:58:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By cvtrpr:
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.


+1. I've been using the USGI "Woobie" for over two decades, both at home and as a professional military guy. I won't travel without one, and they're amazingly warm. My kids use them all winter long to snuggle on the couch, and the wife doesn't even complain about the woodland pattern anymore.


I've seen guys cut headholes into theirs, but that's a pretty useless application IMHO. The best application I ever adapted one to was back in the 90's. I had a local seamstress in Germany sew one into a OD Green USGI Rainjacket. Perfect for cold rainy German mornings/evenings.
Colby  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 8:11:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By Matt45:

Originally Posted By cvtrpr:
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.


+1. I've been using the USGI "Woobie" for over two decades, both at home and as a professional military guy. I won't travel without one, and they're amazingly warm. My kids use them all winter long to snuggle on the couch, and the wife doesn't even complain about the woodland pattern anymore.


I've seen guys cut headholes into theirs, but that's a pretty useless application IMHO. The best application I ever adapted one to was back in the 90's. I had a local seamstress in Germany sew one into a OD Green USGI Rainjacket. Perfect for cold rainy German mornings/evenings.


Loved my ponco liner. The only thing I did was buy a new one and sew my name tag on it. I've had it for over 15 years and have taken it everywhere. They are surpisingly warm, almost too warm at times.
PATCH5  [Member]
10/5/2009 8:14:16 AM EST
No matter where, or why, I keep a woobie nearby.
Pathfinder1cav  [Member]
10/5/2009 9:13:24 AM EST
Slept in one almost every night for 13 months on the ground in '65-'66... great piece of gear!
Mazawakhan  [Member]
10/5/2009 11:26:15 AM EST
Ohhh the soldiers woobie! I still have mine after 20 years! One of the best things in life!
thebrassnuckles  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 11:39:12 AM EST
very well
glock27bill  [Member]
10/5/2009 2:03:56 PM EST
Anyone got a link for purchase, or is this a mil surplus item?
uncool  [Member]
10/5/2009 3:49:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By cutlass1972:
It was my impression that the poncho liner was to be worn inside of the poncho while you are wearing it. After inspecting it now that I have ordered one online, the liner has no head hole, but the tie straps seem to line up with the grommets.

So is the liner just supposed to be used when you use the poncho as a sleeping bag, and not when you wear it as a poncho?


beats me....7 years active army and couldnt figure what to do with it other than put in on my bunk.....great for that
ARJJ  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 4:13:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By glock27bill:
Anyone got a link for purchase, or is this a mil surplus item?


Guuny's Surplus has 'em. www.gunnyssurplus.com.

Or you can get knockoffs from several online vendors.
Gunwritr  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 5:48:00 PM EST
if you want a head hole you can cut a slit and add velcro.....

you used to be able to buy a poncho liner with this mod and a zipper sewn in
so you could zip it up like a sleeping bag

ETA

Ranger Rick Poncho liner kit
sharkman6  [Member]
10/5/2009 5:52:38 PM EST
The woobie is awesome. Period.

If it is real cold, layer you poncho with your liner and a space blanket in between.
GENESMITH  [Life Member]
10/5/2009 6:27:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By Matt45:

Originally Posted By cvtrpr:
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.


+1. I've been using the USGI "Woobie" for over two decades, both at home and as a professional military guy. I won't travel without one, and they're amazingly warm. My kids use them all winter long to snuggle on the couch, and the wife doesn't even complain about the woodland pattern anymore.


I've seen guys cut headholes into theirs, but that's a pretty useless application IMHO. The best application I ever adapted one to was back in the 90's. I had a local seamstress in Germany sew one into a OD Green USGI Rainjacket. Perfect for cold rainy German mornings/evenings.




Going through my dads seabag from vietnam, I found a jacket he had made while he was there. It was complety made from a poncho liner, and on the back and sleeves it had the names of all the places he'd been, and a bunch of art work, etc.

Pretty neat. Wish I had a picture of it.
blueheeler66  [Member]
10/5/2009 9:10:47 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By Matt45:

Originally Posted By cvtrpr:
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.


+1. I've been using the USGI "Woobie" for over two decades, both at home and as a professional military guy. I won't travel without one, and they're amazingly warm. My kids use them all winter long to snuggle on the couch, and the wife doesn't even complain about the woodland pattern anymore.


I've seen guys cut headholes into theirs, but that's a pretty useless application IMHO. The best application I ever adapted one to was back in the 90's. I had a local seamstress in Germany sew one into a OD Green USGI Rainjacket. Perfect for cold rainy German mornings/evenings.[/quote]


+1 this

Kar15  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 10:30:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By Gunwritr:
if you want a head hole you can cut a slit and add velcro.....

you used to be able to buy a poncho liner with this mod and a zipper sewn in
so you could zip it up like a sleeping bag

ETA

Ranger Rick Poncho liner kit


i've got the ranger rick conversion kit in mine. got it from us cav back in the day irc. it works pretty well. makes a handier/warmer sleeping bag then just tying the srings together as it has a long zipper that will close up one of the short sides and the long side of the bag. makes a ponch real damn warm when worn in conjunction. dosen't keep you any drier though. if you want to stay dry get a rain suit. ponchos make much better tarps, shelters, and with the conversion kit even sleeping bags than they do raingear imho...

overall i'd say it's worth the $12.99 and if you buy you're buying from a former service man...

K.
ridewaves  [Team Member]
10/6/2009 12:28:16 AM EST
I did 5 years in... never used the poncho liner to actually line my poncho. I also never used my poncho as an actual poncho either now that I thnk about it.
TAP  [Team Member]
10/6/2009 1:27:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By cutlass1972:
So is the liner just supposed to be used when you use the poncho as a sleeping bag, and not when you wear it as a poncho?


The liner is for using with your poncho when making a tanker roll, or for separate blanket-like applications. It is not a liner for wear with the poncho, though some think that from the name.
Gyrene8490  [Team Member]
10/6/2009 1:36:52 AM EST
One of the greatest inventions of mankind!

Officially, the poncho liner is made so you can put it inside your poncho and make a sleeping bag out of your poncho. It's not made to use while wearing the poncho.

In reality, you tie bootlaces to the four corners of your poncho and tie them off to nearby trees or sticks in the ground, stick a piece of wood up the center hood, and make a poncho hootch to keep the rain or sun out, and you use your poncho liner like a blanket. Poncho liner gets wet? No problem––they dry fast! Going to a cold ambush site at zero-dark-thirty? No problem––take your poncho liner and wrap yourself up in it. Good to go!
ColdAudio  [Member]
10/6/2009 3:22:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By ARJJ:
Originally Posted By glock27bill:
Anyone got a link for purchase, or is this a mil surplus item?


Guuny's Surplus has 'em. www.gunnyssurplus.com.

Or you can get knockoffs from several online vendors.


I never know where to get milsurp stuff at a good price. I was browsing their website and these guys seem pretty good! Anyone else ever order from them?
normal  [Team Member]
10/8/2009 8:44:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By ColdAudio:
Originally Posted By ARJJ:
Originally Posted By glock27bill:
Anyone got a link for purchase, or is this a mil surplus item?


Guuny's Surplus has 'em. www.gunnyssurplus.com.

Or you can get knockoffs from several online vendors.


I never know where to get milsurp stuff at a good price. I was browsing their website and these guys seem pretty good! Anyone else ever order from them?


I've ordered from Gunny's, they are good to go.

abn509  [Member]
10/8/2009 10:14:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Matt45:

Originally Posted By cvtrpr:
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.


+1. I've been using the USGI "Woobie" for over two decades, both at home and as a professional military guy. I won't travel without one, and they're amazingly warm. My kids use them all winter long to snuggle on the couch, and the wife doesn't even complain about the woodland pattern anymore.


I've seen guys cut headholes into theirs, but that's a pretty useless application IMHO. The best application I ever adapted one to was back in the 90's. I had a local seamstress in Germany sew one into a OD Green USGI Rainjacket. Perfect for cold rainy German mornings/evenings.


I had a similar set-up except it was a cold weather field jacket liner in a wet weather jacket. No peer in the cold rain...Goretex,ect. has there application but get soaked through after a couple hours in heavy rain. Personally I see the poncho as general purpose field gear more than rain gear, I always used it more for a hootch, woobie, ground tarp

Woobie's are an imperative, still have mine. In the field a cut down GI wool blanket or space blanket(cas. blanket, thick type like a tarp) was good to go with a cut down puss pad w/ tyvek ground cover, or thermarest.
Bubbatheredneck  [Member]
10/9/2009 5:50:53 PM EST
I love mine.

My wife calls it the 'magic blanket"

She uses it every Sunday for her afternoon, after church nap.

She love it and HATES everything else OD or camo I have!
161Infantry  [Team Member]
10/9/2009 6:44:18 PM EST
I will turn in all my OCIE.....but not the woobie.....
ME2112  [Team Member]
10/9/2009 8:25:39 PM EST
I still use my woobie all the time, whether for covering up with when I'm napping in the recliner, to bringing along when I visit friends and crash on the sofa, to putting inside my MSS patrol bag so I'm warm & toasty in the mid 20s and don't have to use the intermediate bag. I've had it over 20 years, bought it new at Ft Bragg MCSS in 87 or 88 (it has the old Vietnam camo pattern on it, for chrissake!) and when I have to get rid of it, Taps will be playing as I put it in the trash can. Next one's gonna be a Kifaru Woobie, I think.

Storm_Tracker  [Team Member]
10/9/2009 9:31:54 PM EST
I need to make one.

Thinking like with fleece instead possibly? Double the warmth ability without alot of added weight. unsure if that is possible or not.
Madcap72  [Member]
10/9/2009 10:28:48 PM EST
It's not.
ilbob  [Member]
10/10/2009 7:40:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By Storm_Tracker:
I need to make one.

Thinking like with fleece instead possibly? Double the warmth ability without alot of added weight. unsure if that is possible or not.


I think one of the attractions of the poncho liner is that it is about indestructible.
Olive75  [Team Member]
10/10/2009 10:36:11 AM EST
woobies rule!

they are great and lightweight - I've got several stached in different locations for use.
Shadow4Golf  [Team Member]
10/10/2009 12:37:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By Matt45:

Originally Posted By cvtrpr:
use it like a sleeping bag. woobie's are the best military snivel gear item ever made.


+1. I've been using the USGI "Woobie" for over two decades, both at home and as a professional military guy. I won't travel without one, and they're amazingly warm. My kids use them all winter long to snuggle on the couch, and the wife doesn't even complain about the woodland pattern anymore.


I've seen guys cut headholes into theirs, but that's a pretty useless application IMHO. The best application I ever adapted one to was back in the 90's. I had a local seamstress in Germany sew one into a OD Green USGI Rainjacket. Perfect for cold rainy German mornings/evenings.


"Graf Jackets" rock!

But as for the original topic, a poncho liner and a reflective blanket under a poncho hooch and you're good to go.
CPTI  [Member]
10/10/2009 7:21:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By ME2112:
I still use my woobie all the time, whether for covering up with when I'm napping in the recliner, to bringing along when I visit friends and crash on the sofa, to putting inside my MSS patrol bag so I'm warm & toasty in the mid 20s and don't have to use the intermediate bag. I've had it over 20 years, bought it new at Ft Bragg MCSS in 87 or 88 (it has the old Vietnam camo pattern on it, for chrissake!) and when I have to get rid of it, Taps will be playing as I put it in the trash can. Next one's gonna be a Kifaru Woobie, I think.



I've got the Kifaru woobie. It took a lot for me to drop $137 on a blanket. Now that I have it: like my guns, you'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands. Packs up smaller than USGI, weighs less, way warmer/more water resistant. Truly incredible. Don't think you'll get my USGI woobie away from me though, it stays too.
ME2112  [Team Member]
10/11/2009 6:59:01 AM EST
I found another important piece of old field gear in my bag yesterday, and used it while sleeping outside last night - the sleeping bag hood. I had a few of them over the years, either from being issued a new-in-plastic fartsack at CIF or from going to the MCSS and purchasing one of my own. These things were the shit for wearing under your helmet in the wintertime, and did pretty good at keeping the head area in the sleeping bag from getting all grungy too.
jpr9954  [Team Member]
10/11/2009 7:44:07 AM EST
I got a couple made by Wiggy's when they were closing out the desert camo color. Here is a link to their current model:

http://wiggys.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=196&CFID=765510&CFTOKEN=84813244
banana-clip  [Member]
10/11/2009 9:40:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By ME2112:
I found another important piece of old field gear in my bag yesterday, and used it while sleeping outside last night - the sleeping bag hood. I had a few of them over the years, either from being issued a new-in-plastic fartsack at CIF or from going to the MCSS and purchasing one of my own. These things were the shit for wearing under your helmet in the wintertime, and did pretty good at keeping the head area in the sleeping bag from getting all grungy too.


I remember those, they came brand new in the older sleeping bags. They were green with the velcro at the bottom where your chin is. I didn't think you could buy them at clothing and sales, never did see them there before.
ME2112  [Team Member]
10/11/2009 10:07:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By banana-clip:
Originally Posted By ME2112:
I found another important piece of old field gear in my bag yesterday, and used it while sleeping outside last night - the sleeping bag hood. I had a few of them over the years, either from being issued a new-in-plastic fartsack at CIF or from going to the MCSS and purchasing one of my own. These things were the shit for wearing under your helmet in the wintertime, and did pretty good at keeping the head area in the sleeping bag from getting all grungy too.


I remember those, they came brand new in the older sleeping bags. They were green with the velcro at the bottom where your chin is. I didn't think you could buy them at clothing and sales, never did see them there before.


I meant a sleeping bag of my own LOL
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