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Suggest to me the ultimate first aid kit. I've got up to $500 to spend
4/10/2012 10:15:11 PM
Just found out you can use FSA funds on FAKs so I'm ready to blow some money on one
What is a good high end kit? Preferably something with clotting powder?
What is a good high end kit? Preferably something with clotting powder?4/10/2012 10:56:54 PM
do you have training? if not even a $10k kit isnt going to do you any good. also, powered aka granulated hemostat is the worst to use and most makers have gotten away from it.
4/10/2012 11:01:45 PM
lots of good stuff here:
https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/store/index.php
I'd get a "Ballistic Response kit for each car, and maybe another one for your "I hear a bump in the night kit":
https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/store/Products_Detail.php?ProductID=52
https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/store/index.php
I'd get a "Ballistic Response kit for each car, and maybe another one for your "I hear a bump in the night kit":
https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/store/Products_Detail.php?ProductID=52
4/10/2012 11:05:14 PM
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
4/10/2012 11:19:17 PM
If you have a full ALS kit then you must have some good training. I have a pretty basic kit that stays in the truck( blood pressure cuff,CPR mask with one way valve, 4X4's,roll's of guaze, triangle bandages, trauma bandages, band aid's) it pretty much is a well stocked basic life support set up. I have a smaller kit that stay's in the bag. Mostly 4x4's triangle bandages and band aids. Enough to take care of a small problem or hold me over till I get to the truck. If you get your hands on a Gall's magazine they usually have a large assortment of kits loaded and ready to go. I like my set up because it is with in my scope of training and the kit that stay's with me is small and light weight. I can refill from the bigger bag in the truck if I need to.
4/10/2012 11:31:34 PM
In before the "what's you training questions".
4/10/2012 11:31:43 PM
Originally Posted By dreadpiratejeff:
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have access, or the person you're working on is close to a ventilator. Airway pressure, resp. rate, and other factors come into play when you intubate someone. Seriously, people on here need to rethink having the ability to intubate someone. How much oxygen do you have access to? Do you have a way to give O2 via the ET tube or whatever supplemental airway you have in your kit?
Also, what kind of fluids are you using? Are you familiar with what effects those fluids will have on the body?
Please people... Look at the thread in here about a base level first aid kit. Don't get in over your head with stuff. Your patient/family member WILL suffer because of it.
4/11/2012 9:13:38 PM
Originally Posted By short747:
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have access, or the person you're working on is close to a ventilator. Airway pressure, resp. rate, and other factors come into play when you intubate someone. Seriously, people on here need to rethink having the ability to intubate someone. How much oxygen do you have access to? Do you have a way to give O2 via the ET tube or whatever supplemental airway you have in your kit?
Also, what kind of fluids are you using? Are you familiar with what effects those fluids will have on the body?
Please people... Look at the thread in here about a base level first aid kit. Don't get in over your head with stuff. Your patient/family member WILL suffer because of it.
Originally Posted By dreadpiratejeff:
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have access, or the person you're working on is close to a ventilator. Airway pressure, resp. rate, and other factors come into play when you intubate someone. Seriously, people on here need to rethink having the ability to intubate someone. How much oxygen do you have access to? Do you have a way to give O2 via the ET tube or whatever supplemental airway you have in your kit?
Also, what kind of fluids are you using? Are you familiar with what effects those fluids will have on the body?
Please people... Look at the thread in here about a base level first aid kit. Don't get in over your head with stuff. Your patient/family member WILL suffer because of it.
This is true. First time I put in an ET I lac'ed the tonsils. This was under no pressure as well. as far as airway I wouldn't ever reccomend going over an LMA and an ambi bag with gentl pressure. The most important factor being that an ambulance is on the way.
4/11/2012 10:42:57 PM
Originally Posted By short747:
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have access, or the person you're working on is close to a ventilator. Airway pressure, resp. rate, and other factors come into play when you intubate someone. Seriously, people on here need to rethink having the ability to intubate someone. How much oxygen do you have access to? Do you have a way to give O2 via the ET tube or whatever supplemental airway you have in your kit?
Also, what kind of fluids are you using? Are you familiar with what effects those fluids will have on the body?
Please people... Look at the thread in here about a base level first aid kit. Don't get in over your head with stuff. Your patient/family member WILL suffer because of it.
Originally Posted By dreadpiratejeff:
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I have training and while I could put together my own FAK, I'm interested in looking at something pre-made that isn't the kind of junk kits sold at Wal-Mart... so I'm interested in suggestions in this thread.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs?
My problem is that I could easily OVER prepare. I keep a full ALS kit at home, complete with an intubation set, fluids, drop sets, needles, various bandages, etc... but it's WAY to big for anything beyond "around the house and in the trunk".
So I'm sure that someone with experience in combat medicine has probably come up with a better general purpose kit than I could because I tend to overthink things.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have access, or the person you're working on is close to a ventilator. Airway pressure, resp. rate, and other factors come into play when you intubate someone. Seriously, people on here need to rethink having the ability to intubate someone. How much oxygen do you have access to? Do you have a way to give O2 via the ET tube or whatever supplemental airway you have in your kit?
Also, what kind of fluids are you using? Are you familiar with what effects those fluids will have on the body?
Please people... Look at the thread in here about a base level first aid kit. Don't get in over your head with stuff. Your patient/family member WILL suffer because of it.
to add to this, ACLS and even general cardiac arrest protocols are going to BLS airways as long as you have good air movement. ET tubes are a last ditch effort now with NPA/OPA and king airways taking over in most areas.
4/12/2012 3:42:48 AM
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs.
Direct pressure on the wound. Forget about intubation.
HTR.
4/12/2012 6:55:00 AM
Originally Posted By HUNTER223:
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs.
Direct pressure on the wound. Forget about intubation.
HTR.
I realize that powder is frowned upon these days, but what option replaced that in modern IFAKs.
Direct pressure on the wound. Forget about intubation.
HTR.
yup, what ive been taught and told.
train up. but honestly for what most "dream"shtf is on the web, your only gonna need a ton of 4x4''s,compression dressing or ace wrap,splits,tape, clamps, and basic crap.
Is it nice to have all the stuff to do major work. Yip. is it better if you know how. Yip..is it nice if you have the $$$ to get all that for your doctor buddy in your group who does that sort of shit for work..Yip....Is it needed ...all depends on what your doing.
for me ive built all of my kits from my baisc IFAK to a large M3 size bags to tote size bags.
They all are built around the idea of GSW's, and large bleeders. In other words. Your axe bounces off a log...i can help you... you get shot in the leg by an MZB i can help you...maybe even save you if infection doesnt kill you... but i dont kid my self on doing needle de comp's and dropping NPA/OPAs down my buddies throat while on patrol at the BOL, if the guy is that bad off, and the scenerio that bad, not much i can do or anyone esle for t hat matter....( now dont get me wrongi stock ops/nps, needles,IV's and tons of stuff to stop bleeding..i just dont fool myself that because i have it,,,i can use it** besides the bleeder shit...im g2g on that)
a good basic kit is the M3, i added a ton of 4x4's a second TQ, some sutures, some medications, HH compresed gauze and 2-3 izzy dressing to it, a flash light and some other basic odd's and ends. It serves my needs and my skill level.....
4/12/2012 8:19:35 AM
What is the purpose of the kit ? Is this a portable general purpose kit, a compact combat kit, or one for a shelter for a long term SHTF/TEOTWAWKI? There are some unique things to each kit depending on it's purpose. A TEOTWAWKI kit could include things you wouldn't use in a normal situation, such as casting materials, antibiotics, etc.
On youtube, search for "level two first aid kit" for some decent examples of a BLS kit. Youtube's king gear queer, nutnfancy, and USNERDOC both have good ones.
On youtube, search for "level two first aid kit" for some decent examples of a BLS kit. Youtube's king gear queer, nutnfancy, and USNERDOC both have good ones.
4/12/2012 8:55:02 AM
4/12/2012 1:47:22 PM
Well,
If you have the training your should have the knowledge to build a kit to suite your level of training and comfort level .
That beng said.
I too stock lots of things I wouldn't use hereat my place, but other here can and have used things from my med kits that I wouldn't.
Now they have training, I don't.
So the answer comes down to who are you stocking for?
Yourself...that should be fairly easy.
Others...now this is the hard question.
I asked my dr. Friend to get what he could use here.
Yes it's not a level 1 trauma center or anything...it's fairly good....and stocked.
Any just an FYI...I'm sure most of the people know this...but, o2 from a large tank used for welding and cutting is anhydrous oxygen and could be used for o2 for people if needed.
So I should assume that quite a few people on here will have plenty of o2 available if needed.
Back on topic...op is this kit just for you or an in case for anyone or for a trained professional.
B
If you have the training your should have the knowledge to build a kit to suite your level of training and comfort level .
That beng said.
I too stock lots of things I wouldn't use hereat my place, but other here can and have used things from my med kits that I wouldn't.
Now they have training, I don't.
So the answer comes down to who are you stocking for?
Yourself...that should be fairly easy.
Others...now this is the hard question.
I asked my dr. Friend to get what he could use here.
Yes it's not a level 1 trauma center or anything...it's fairly good....and stocked.
Any just an FYI...I'm sure most of the people know this...but, o2 from a large tank used for welding and cutting is anhydrous oxygen and could be used for o2 for people if needed.
So I should assume that quite a few people on here will have plenty of o2 available if needed.
Back on topic...op is this kit just for you or an in case for anyone or for a trained professional.
B
4/12/2012 1:55:30 PM
Get some bls training, buy some nitrile gloves and a basic face mask, and save the rest for an AED.
For all the discussion about gsw and major trauma, youre more likely to encounter some middle aged over weight person unconcious on the ground with probable cardiac arrest. Not as exciting as a zombie apocalypse but it is realistic.
For all the discussion about gsw and major trauma, youre more likely to encounter some middle aged over weight person unconcious on the ground with probable cardiac arrest. Not as exciting as a zombie apocalypse but it is realistic.
4/12/2012 4:18:36 PM
http://www.adventuremedicalkits.com/product.php?catname=Marine&prodname=Marine%202000&product=117
AMK is good stuff
AMK is good stuff
4/12/2012 11:07:22 PM
$500 will get you an EMT-B class.
Take that knowledge and a little money and you will be far more capable than if you had spent $500 in hardware and nothing on software.
ETA: Just saw the stipulation on using FSA funds...
Take that knowledge and a little money and you will be far more capable than if you had spent $500 in hardware and nothing on software.
ETA: Just saw the stipulation on using FSA funds...
4/13/2012 9:13:23 AM
I got the one for my commercial boat thru a reference from my doctor to some medical company. You need to know and respect the ability of your limits
