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FCC violation on 14.315, around 1400 PST.
3/4/2012 11:22:47 PM
So I'm scanning the band up and down and I hear some cussing and gibberish. WE7KFM was pronounced phonetically with the F as FUCKIN. I listened some more and it kept repeating itself over and over. Where is this person transmitting from?
3/4/2012 11:25:08 PM
but really, he's always there...... POS from Canada
also, possible it was 14.313?
3/4/2012 11:28:38 PM
That's the first time I'ver heard anything like that. What's the back story on him? I guess the FCC can't do nothing as he isn't from the US.
3/4/2012 11:51:14 PM
Is that Carol.. He entertains me!!
3/4/2012 11:57:13 PM
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
3/5/2012 1:27:31 AM
Its obvious that you wern't around in the 3.865 days.
3/5/2012 8:09:19 AM
We have a problem with that on one of the repeaters nearby.
I recently met an very nice OO that moved into our county and had a long chat with him about many topics, one of which was the trash talk that's occurring on a specific repeater.
He said some of the cussing was in the gray area because FCC does allow people to say "Ass, Bitch, Damn, etc" on TV; however, this particular repeater dives heavy into politics, double and hidden meanings on racism, and the hardcorps cussing has the repeater dubbed as the "CB'er ragchew."
A bunch of old-timers said the cussing got worse when FCC dropped the Morse requirement; therefore, any Joe-Shmoe who was a CB'er (or attitude of) can join the ranks without so much as studying the actual material.
I recently met an very nice OO that moved into our county and had a long chat with him about many topics, one of which was the trash talk that's occurring on a specific repeater.
He said some of the cussing was in the gray area because FCC does allow people to say "Ass, Bitch, Damn, etc" on TV; however, this particular repeater dives heavy into politics, double and hidden meanings on racism, and the hardcorps cussing has the repeater dubbed as the "CB'er ragchew."
A bunch of old-timers said the cussing got worse when FCC dropped the Morse requirement; therefore, any Joe-Shmoe who was a CB'er (or attitude of) can join the ranks without so much as studying the actual material.
3/5/2012 8:45:46 AM
You're new around here.
14.313. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
14.313. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
3/5/2012 8:59:55 AM
Originally Posted By pighelmet:
Its obvious that you wern't around in the 3.865 days.
Its obvious that you wern't around in the 3.865 days.
Or 3.898.
And Carol is a VE call, not WE.
3/5/2012 10:27:06 AM
Originally Posted By ChinoUSMC:
We have a problem with that on one of the repeaters nearby.
I recently met an very nice OO that moved into our county and had a long chat with him about many topics, one of which was the trash talk that's occurring on a specific repeater.
He said some of the cussing was in the gray area because FCC does allow people to say "Ass, Bitch, Damn, etc" on TV; however, this particular repeater dives heavy into politics, double and hidden meanings on racism, and the hardcorps cussing has the repeater dubbed as the "CB'er ragchew."
A bunch of old-timers said the cussing got worse when FCC dropped the Morse requirement; therefore, any Joe-Shmoe who was a CB'er (or attitude of) can join the ranks without so much as studying the actual material.
We have a problem with that on one of the repeaters nearby.
I recently met an very nice OO that moved into our county and had a long chat with him about many topics, one of which was the trash talk that's occurring on a specific repeater.
He said some of the cussing was in the gray area because FCC does allow people to say "Ass, Bitch, Damn, etc" on TV; however, this particular repeater dives heavy into politics, double and hidden meanings on racism, and the hardcorps cussing has the repeater dubbed as the "CB'er ragchew."
A bunch of old-timers said the cussing got worse when FCC dropped the Morse requirement; therefore, any Joe-Shmoe who was a CB'er (or attitude of) can join the ranks without so much as studying the actual material.
It is funny that they all say that, but most of the time I log bad operating practices, and lookup the call signs. Most of the bad ops are old timers that are extra class "Know Code' guys. It is funny they will always use the dropping of the code requirement as an excuse for bad operating practices, when most of this was going on long before the code requirement was dropped.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
3/5/2012 11:09:05 AM
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
3/5/2012 3:03:55 PM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
The way I look at it, for every bad operator there are 10-20 great guys on the air, as long as the good guys choose to ignore the bad ones, and not interact with them they will soon loose interests. Of course there will always be an asshole and someone that thinks they own the frequency, I will QSY. There is usually enough room on the bands, and there are enough repeaters.
We are lucky here, the local trustee's would not put up with that kind of crap, and no one I know of in this area has a "Closed" repeater. I am not very active on the local repeaters, but I frequently have the radio on in the shack and at all times while driving.
3/5/2012 6:49:30 PM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
The Ohio ARES district 10 coordinator was passing traffic via FLdigi on a local VHF machine, (training exercise) and the guy just up and pulled the plug, and he was an ARES member. To hear the story at AES Cleveland a few weeks back was funny as hell. A big WTF?...!
LOL
Yes, some of the old timers are out of control, which I truly enjoy. Some of the best entertainment out there.
bigohio
3/5/2012 8:26:03 PM
FCC hasn't even gotten K1MAN yet and how many decades has it been?
The Feds don't care about amateur radio.
The Feds don't care about amateur radio.
3/5/2012 8:40:15 PM
Old Karol has been doing that on 20M for a long time. I rarely go up on that side of the band just because I can't stand to listen to that stuff. The people who engage him are just as bad.
Back in 2005 when I got on HF again after a long time off I came across him for the first time. He was calling CQ and I thought I'd work a Canadian station, but it was just a pretense for him to start his broadcasting.
I answered his CQ and it soon turned into him rambling on saying that the FCC had automated equipment that starts recording whenever certain phrases are said on the air and other stuff. He starts saying "Allah Ackbar" over and over and tells me that the FCC is now recording because he said that. Goes off the wall about Rotti the Rotweiler and others that he's having combat with on the air and such. Needless to say I quickly backed out of that QSO... I'm pretty sure he has a mental problem. Last time I heard him he was the Voice of Canada or something.
Back in 2005 when I got on HF again after a long time off I came across him for the first time. He was calling CQ and I thought I'd work a Canadian station, but it was just a pretense for him to start his broadcasting.
I answered his CQ and it soon turned into him rambling on saying that the FCC had automated equipment that starts recording whenever certain phrases are said on the air and other stuff. He starts saying "Allah Ackbar" over and over and tells me that the FCC is now recording because he said that. Goes off the wall about Rotti the Rotweiler and others that he's having combat with on the air and such. Needless to say I quickly backed out of that QSO... I'm pretty sure he has a mental problem. Last time I heard him he was the Voice of Canada or something.
3/5/2012 9:23:46 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
14.313. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
On the plus side it's the non-official amplifier tune-up spot.
14.313. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
3/5/2012 9:44:31 PM
Originally Posted By KwaiChangCaine:
Old Karol has been doing that on 20M for a long time. I rarely go up on that side of the band just because I can't stand to listen to that stuff. The people who engage him are just as bad.
Back in 2005 when I got on HF again after a long time off I came across him for the first time. He was calling CQ and I thought I'd work a Canadian station, but it was just a pretense for him to start his broadcasting.
I answered his CQ and it soon turned into him rambling on saying that the FCC had automated equipment that starts recording whenever certain phrases are said on the air and other stuff. He starts saying "Allah Ackbar" over and over and tells me that the FCC is now recording because he said that. Goes off the wall about Rotti the Rotweiler and others that he's having combat with on the air and such. Needless to say I quickly backed out of that QSO... I'm pretty sure he has a mental problem. Last time I heard him he was the Voice of Canada or something.
Old Karol has been doing that on 20M for a long time. I rarely go up on that side of the band just because I can't stand to listen to that stuff. The people who engage him are just as bad.
Back in 2005 when I got on HF again after a long time off I came across him for the first time. He was calling CQ and I thought I'd work a Canadian station, but it was just a pretense for him to start his broadcasting.
I answered his CQ and it soon turned into him rambling on saying that the FCC had automated equipment that starts recording whenever certain phrases are said on the air and other stuff. He starts saying "Allah Ackbar" over and over and tells me that the FCC is now recording because he said that. Goes off the wall about Rotti the Rotweiler and others that he's having combat with on the air and such. Needless to say I quickly backed out of that QSO... I'm pretty sure he has a mental problem. Last time I heard him he was the Voice of Canada or something.
Bagged Milk?
Originally Posted By HankEllis:
Originally Posted By NAM:
14.313. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
On the plus side it's the non-official amplifier tune-up spot.
14.313. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
I have been known to tune up there before listening in on the Maritime Net
3/5/2012 10:20:16 PM
I cannot comprehend the lack of mental power that would make one do that every day all day for years....Seriously... To think every day.."What to do today.... hey, let me get up and act dumb on a radio all day again" I seriously can't understand.
3/6/2012 6:33:46 AM
Originally Posted By F350PSD:
FCC hasn't even gotten K1MAN yet and how many decades has it been?
The Feds don't care about amateur radio.
FCC hasn't even gotten K1MAN yet and how many decades has it been?
The Feds don't care about amateur radio.
Actually, the FCC won a Civil Judgement against K1MAN January 10, 2012 in Federal District Court in Maine. The FCC had assessed forfeitures in the amount of $21,000 against Baxter on three asserted violations of the Communications Act of 1934 and its regulations: Failure to respond to an FCC inquiry in violation of Title 47, Section 308 of the US Code, willful or malicious interference with other radio transmissions in violation of Section 97.101(d), and engaging in communications in which he has a pecuniary interest in violation of Section 97.113(a)(3).
Chief US District Judge John A. Woodcock Jr, agreed with the FCC on the first two counts –– willful or repeated failure to respond to FCC requests for information, and willful or malicious interference –– and granted summary judgments to the FCC in the amount of $3000 and $7000, respectively. On the third claim –– communications in which an amateur station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest –– the Court declined to grant a summary judgment to the FCC, holding that there were issues of material fact to be litigated in the Court in later proceedings.
The full judgement can be read here: Civil Court Summarry Judgement
Now I will grant you that it's still a long way away from getting him off the air.
3/8/2012 6:39:01 PM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
I have just started looking at getting into the radio world, but that sort of thing has been my extremely limited experience as well. Plenty of nice folks but a lot of old assholes who seem dead set on seeing this hobby die from lack of new blood.
3/8/2012 7:24:19 PM
Originally Posted By thatguywiththeak:
I have just started looking at getting into the radio world, but that sort of thing has been my extremely limited experience as well. Plenty of nice folks but a lot of old assholes who see dead set on seeing this hobby die from lack of new blood.
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
I have just started looking at getting into the radio world, but that sort of thing has been my extremely limited experience as well. Plenty of nice folks but a lot of old assholes who see dead set on seeing this hobby die from lack of new blood.
Do not let it discourage you! There are plenty of aspects as a hobby that will can enjoy. It is rewarding, and will help you be even more prepared than you have ever been.
3/8/2012 8:08:30 PM
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
Do not let it discourage you! There are plenty of aspects as a hobby that will can enjoy. It is rewarding, and will help you be even more prepared than you have ever been.
Do not let it discourage you! There are plenty of aspects as a hobby that will can enjoy. It is rewarding, and will help you be even more prepared than you have ever been.
This sentence is well worth repeating
I've only been into ham and GMRS radio for a few short years, so my experience is still pretty limited. That said, for every jackass I've come across I have met twenty genuinely nice people who would do anything to help out a new operator. I remember my very first 2m repeater conversation fondly because of those people. Just by keying up and indicating that I was new caused a pileup of sorts on the machine. There were many, many hams who gave me a warm welcome, congratulated me on getting my ticket, and offered to help in any way that they could. My primary home 2m repeater is constantly monitored by people who genuinely want to help out in any way they can.
My first HF QSO was like a party-those guys treated me like I was the king of the world!
The jackasses only stand out because they are...well...jackasses
3/8/2012 9:15:29 PM
Originally Posted By joemama74:
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
3/8/2012 10:09:17 PM
Originally Posted By piccolo:
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Originally Posted By joemama74:
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Yeah, the 'Take back .52' project.
Reading about thoes guys arocking new hams is what pushed me to get a P.O. Box for my licenses.
3/9/2012 12:23:26 AM
Originally Posted By piccolo:
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Originally Posted By joemama74:
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
This is in the Dallas area, San Antonio has it worse I guess.
There was one heckler on the repeater, no call signs, but the local club knows who he is, tracked him down, ignored him, even stepped on him. If they do any kind of event, they bounce it off the 70cm repeater, just because this guy doesn't have a 70cm machine.
The anarchist guy is known too. Weird thing about it, he seems to talk to a bunch of BOP guys from the white collar federal prison we have here in the suburbs. He was at hamcon last year selling stuff, but the clubs avoid him like the plague.
3/9/2012 12:28:04 AM
I don't get too worked about it anyway, both of these guys are a good 20 - 25 years older than me and no one lives forever.
3/9/2012 12:45:14 AM
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
Do not let it discourage you! There are plenty of aspects as a hobby that will can enjoy. It is rewarding, and will help you be even more prepared than you have ever been.
Originally Posted By thatguywiththeak:
I have just started looking at getting into the radio world, but that sort of thing has been my extremely limited experience as well. Plenty of nice folks but a lot of old assholes who see dead set on seeing this hobby die from lack of new blood.
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
Originally Posted By stanprophet09:
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
These are also the guys that will crank up the amp, and keep saying their call signs over and over on a DX pile up, and then when the DX station comes back to them you hear "Hey good to work you for the 3rd time today"
To support this you can look at the warning letters as posted by the FCC, most of the letters for jamming, and malicious interference in HF nets and local repeaters are by old time Extra class operators.
Around here, some of the older operators are very "protective" of "their" frequencies and repeaters. A few weekends back I checked into a fairly distant 70cm repeater just to see if my HT could reach. I keyed up, IDed, and asked for a signal report. Almost immediately, some cranky old bastard came up and informed me that "they" don't appreciate "freeloaders" on their repeater.
Wow
The funny thing is, just last year I had purchased and donated a fairly highfalutin Andrew repeater antenna and a four chamber Telewave duplexer for a GMRS machine closer to home. Why did I purchase and donate that equipment? Because the repeater owner was actually nice to me, as well as to my daughter one night when she was having trouble making her HT work when she needed a ride. After hearing her having trouble he got on the radio and tried to help her. As it turned out she had turned off the PL tone somehow-so she couldn't bring up the machine.
My point is that you'll attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. I don't live in a world filled with magical unicorns and pixie dust, but a little bit of common courtesy goes an awfully long way with me. I don't need to have my rear-end kissed, but not being openly hostile to a complete stranger isn't a lot to ask.
I have just started looking at getting into the radio world, but that sort of thing has been my extremely limited experience as well. Plenty of nice folks but a lot of old assholes who see dead set on seeing this hobby die from lack of new blood.
Do not let it discourage you! There are plenty of aspects as a hobby that will can enjoy. It is rewarding, and will help you be even more prepared than you have ever been.
At this point I'm just rocking some Motorola 356's for FRS/GMRS (which I'm trying to keep on the right channels/power settings till I get a GMRS lisence even though no one else seems to) and I'm thinking about getting a dual band TYT since it can (at least physically) do MURS and GMRS (in addition to some limited ham if I get my ticket) even if it is technically not certified. I don't really see myself transmitting on those given the legality issues, just listening in probly to see if there is enough traffic and coverage to be worth it. I mentioned it to some older HAMs I ran into at a gun show and got to talking to before I knew the in's and outs, and you think I just told them I fucked their mothers. Wasn't until I got home and did some reading on the net that I figured out why that may not be a great idea (using one to transmit on MURS or GMRS that is , and even then it seems to be widely done without problems if you aren't causing interference).
3/9/2012 12:49:08 AM
Originally Posted By Tweightwee:
Yeah, the 'Take back .52' project.
Reading about thoes guys arocking new hams is what pushed me to get a P.O. Box for my licenses.
Originally Posted By piccolo:
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Originally Posted By joemama74:
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Yeah, the 'Take back .52' project.
Reading about thoes guys arocking new hams is what pushed me to get a P.O. Box for my licenses.
Wow, WTF. That certainly makes me a bit more hesitant. I absolutely CANNOT have people doing that. Some careers/career goals and in some professions people calling your work to call you a shitbag and talk shit is a professional death sentence. Like permanently.
3/9/2012 6:56:29 AM
Originally Posted By thatguywiththeak:
Wow, WTF. That certainly makes me a bit more hesitant. I absolutely CANNOT have people doing that. Some careers/career goals and in some professions people calling your work to call you a shitbag and talk shit is a professional death sentence. Like permanently.
Originally Posted By Tweightwee:
Yeah, the 'Take back .52' project.
Reading about those guys arocking new hams is what pushed me to get a P.O. Box for my licenses.
Originally Posted By piccolo:
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Originally Posted By joemama74:
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
There's a local guy on 2 meter here that goes on political tears with racism and anarchism, n word whatever... on and on. Almost as bad as cb, but they keep it off the repeater and just use the national calling freqs.
I'd take the f bombs over that any day.
If that is the guy I have heard about someone ought to jerk both his license and his head off of his shoulders. If he's the guy he gets newbies call signs and looks up all sorts of shit on them and puts it on the air (divorce, personal information and anything hurtful he can find.)
I was reading somewhere down your way that there is a little grass roots movement down there for everyone to be nice to people to overcompensate for this jerk
Yeah, the 'Take back .52' project.
Reading about those guys arocking new hams is what pushed me to get a P.O. Box for my licenses.
Wow, WTF. That certainly makes me a bit more hesitant. I absolutely CANNOT have people doing that. Some careers/career goals and in some professions people calling your work to call you a shitbag and talk shit is a professional death sentence. Like permanently.
Yeah, sucks when the thing that is meant to keep everyone in line is used as a weapon and returning the favor or permanently ending the problem is a bigger hastle.
I wouldn't let it totally discourage you though. In this instance it really is an isolated incident.
