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 300 ACC hunting bullet
oldyeller  [Member]
5/5/2012 8:39:18 PM
Opinions on the best projectile for hunting deer and hogs with the 300 ACC blackout? (super sonic)
10milg29  [Member]
5/5/2012 9:14:51 PM
Might want to venture over to 300blktalk
agBQ08  [Member]
5/5/2012 9:36:58 PM
For reloading the Barnes 110 grain black tip or the Nosler 125 grain ballistic green tip.

If you want factory ammo Remington has an Accutip in 300 BLK.

I would head over to 300blktalk.com though

Lots of 6.8 trolls on this forum.
krpind  [Life Member]
5/5/2012 9:58:29 PM
110 Grain Barnes Tipped Triple-Shock X seems to be pretty popular.

Don't send people to other sites for answers if you don't know the answer.

Report anyone trolling this forum. If you don't want to be the one that submits the report, IM me and I will.
FileForge  [Member]
5/5/2012 10:23:12 PM
Try the Sierra 125 Matchkings they started making for the 300blk.
SoMiss1  [Team Member]
5/5/2012 10:48:02 PM
I am planning on the Barnes tax 130 gr with 19 gr of lil gun powder. About 2200 fps and the best foot lbs energy that I have seen in research.
I loaded a few the other day to try them out. Planning on giving that a run for deer this year.
glk34  [Member]
5/5/2012 11:46:03 PM
Ive killed Deer and coyotes both with Hornady sst's in 150gr and ttsx's in 130gr both with good results.
tammons  [Member]
5/5/2012 11:47:04 PM
Over kill for deer and too slow.
That is a 308/30-06/300wsm/300wm bullet.

The problem is that bullet most likely opens at 1900 FPS which limits its range.
Might be okay for hogs though if you hit a bone, but for a typical deer I would use a soft point or the BLK 110 gr TTSX

Anything beyond 100 yards with the 130 TTSX and It will go through a deer like a drill.

That said I have killed deer with bullet like that with a good shot but you have to track them a bit.
GACKER1143  [Member]
5/6/2012 2:06:03 AM
tammons

Not true, I've been told by Speer there 150/165gr SPBT's HotCor bullets open up all the way down to 1500 FPS reliably! And I've gotten good exspantion is my testing with these bullet in the 300 Blk. The spper 125gr tnt and 130 gr HP will open great at 300 Blk speeds!
Recoil737  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 3:22:27 AM
Originally Posted By agBQ08:
For reloading the Barnes 110 grain black tip or the Nosler 125 grain ballistic green tip.

If you want factory ammo Remington has an Accutip in 300 BLK.

I would head over to 300blktalk.com though

Lots of 6.8 trolls on this forum.


+1

The Barnes Black Tip is specifically designed for the 300BLK. It loads to perfect mag length for the most reliable feeding and is capable of expansion out to a minimum of 300 yards with 20 inches of penetration.
WholeBunches  [Member]
5/6/2012 9:49:55 AM
I've hit and killed 5 deer with the 300 Whisper and Blackout. All were 1 shot kills. All bullets expanded and passed completely through. Ranges were 29 to 122yd. 4 were lung hits. 1 heart hit. Heart hit dead right there. Lung hit deer went 10 to 50yd. 3 were killed with the Sierra 125gr Pro Hunter bullet. 2 were killed with the Nosler 125gr Ballistic Tip. I've now switched to the Nosler, as I found it slightly more accurate in my rifles than the Sierra. I do have 3 boxes of the Barnes black tip 300 Blackout bullets to experiment with, but have not shot any yet...waiting for a new scope first.

While I've never shot a hog, based upon how the bullets performed on deer, I would not hesitate to use either of those 125gr bullets on hogs with the 300 Blackout. My velocities with 16" barrels are in the upper 2100fps to lower 2200fps range, depending upon the barrel and what load it likes the best. I get in the 2000fps range with my 10.3" barrel.
tammons  [Member]
5/6/2012 9:52:11 AM
Originally Posted By GACKER1143:
tammons

Not true, I've been told by Speer there 150/165gr SPBT's HotCor bullets open up all the way down to 1500 FPS reliably! And I've gotten good exspantion is my testing with these bullet in the 300 Blk. The spper 125gr tnt and 130 gr HP will open great at 300 Blk speeds!


Talking about the 130 gr barnes bullet
oldyeller  [Member]
5/6/2012 10:17:17 AM
Great info- thanks everyone!

Would the varmint variations be too light in construction for medium game animals? Looking at the Hornady 115s

I have the 125 NBTs to load, will look into the barns 115s as well
tammons  [Member]
5/6/2012 11:03:25 AM
Varmint bullets are designed to come apart.

That said One year I loaded 308 light loads in 110 gr Vmax specifically for neck shots on deer.
Also loaded the same bullet in 7.62x39 for the same reason.

They all just flopped over dead.

I would not try a body shot with one though

agBQ08  [Member]
5/6/2012 12:28:41 PM
Keep in mind those 308 varmint bullets are designed for 308 Win speeds and are meant to explode when going 2500+ fps. You'll get ~2350 fps muzzle velocity from 300 BLK. Rather than exploding, bullets like the Hornady 100 Vmax and Nosler 125 ballistic tip turn into a main big ball of lead and three or four smaller fragments in ballistic gel. Seems to be in between a controlled expansion bullet and a varmint bullet but very effective. The link below shows some of the initial testing that was done.

Gel test results for several different bullets
BobRoberts  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 2:47:14 PM
I dont think you can beat the barnes bullet.
gasdoc09  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 4:37:34 PM
Originally Posted By krpind:
Don't send people to other sites for answers if you don't know the answer.

Why not? 300blktalk has excellent information specific to that specific cartridge.

Surely ar15.com isn't afraid of losing members and ad revenue to "competing" gun forums. That would be ... well, pathetic.
krpind  [Life Member]
5/6/2012 6:26:32 PM
Originally Posted By gasdoc09:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Don't send people to other sites for answers if you don't know the answer.

Why not? 300blktalk has excellent information specific to that specific cartridge.

Surely ar15.com isn't afraid of losing members and ad revenue to "competing" gun forums. That would be ... well, pathetic.


People come to a tech forum and ask a question and instead of getting an accurate answer, the reply is to go ask somewhere else? You think that is appropriate?

If you are capable of answering, you should. If you have nothing of substance to add, you shouldn't post. Competition isn't the point. If the question is where can I find "excellent information specific to a specific cartridge" you possibly might have a point. To just summarily send a man looking for the answer to a specific question somewhere else isn't answering the question.

"I read this here" and link to a thread discussing it on another site would be a great way to answer if you don't actually know yourself. At least that would be providing detailed info.

10milg29  [Member]
5/6/2012 7:06:20 PM
Yes, it is appropriate considering the constant trolling by the 6.8 fan boys. What are we turning into France around here or what?
krpind  [Life Member]
5/6/2012 7:22:33 PM
Originally Posted By 10milg29:
Yes, it is appropriate considering the constant trolling by the 6.8 fan boys. What are we turning into France around here or what?


We are getting way off topic.

Use the report button.

Operator42  [Member]
5/6/2012 7:30:05 PM
I've shot many yotes, first with the 125 ballistic tips, then the 110 Vmaxs. Both worked great on the yotes. The Vmax didn't have the big exits like the 125 BTs, I would pass on the Vmax for deer. The 125 BTs shoot small groups and I would use on a deer, but with the 110 TTSX Blacktip out, that would be my go to bullet. At 4300 feet, Lilgun will push a Blacktip to 2450 fps. I'm still waiting to get factory ammo to try.
GACKER1143  [Member]
5/6/2012 10:52:08 PM
tammons
Yep I found that to be the case with 160 gr Barnes in my '06. Some times they'd exspand some times not. They are great penertraters but I was never impressed with them- accuracy was always so so! Haven't seen the new ones they came out with for the 300 Blk. I see they went with a polymer tip for exspandtion.
gasdoc09  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 8:36:09 PM
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By gasdoc09:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Don't send people to other sites for answers if you don't know the answer.

Why not? 300blktalk has excellent information specific to that specific cartridge.

Surely ar15.com isn't afraid of losing members and ad revenue to "competing" gun forums. That would be ... well, pathetic.


People come to a tech forum and ask a question and instead of getting an accurate answer, the reply is to go ask somewhere else? You think that is appropriate?

If you are capable of answering, you should. If you have nothing of substance to add, you shouldn't post. Competition isn't the point. If the question is where can I find "excellent information specific to a specific cartridge" you possibly might have a point. To just summarily send a man looking for the answer to a specific question somewhere else isn't answering the question.

"I read this here" and link to a thread discussing it on another site would be a great way to answer if you don't actually know yourself. At least that would be providing detailed info.


Fair enough. I see your point. I didn't think it was that big a deal.
tammons  [Member]
5/7/2012 8:47:07 PM
Originally Posted By GACKER1143:
tammons
Yep I found that to be the case with 160 gr Barnes in my '06. Some times they'd exspand some times not. They are great penertraters but I was never impressed with them- accuracy was always so so! Haven't seen the new ones they came out with for the 300 Blk. I see they went with a polymer tip for exspandtion.


Surprised that happened in an 06.

Well my DAD is now 91 YO and 2 years ago shot a huge 14 point buck with a 110 gr Barnes bullet in 6.8.
That bullet was designed for 270 win velocities or about 3400-3600 FPS.
Best we can figure it never opened and it went through him like a drill and he lost the deer.

Personally I think they need to change the design of all the TTSX bullets to a softer copper with a larger hollow point so they open faster.

Great bullets for pigs though, but way overkill for deer except the 300 blk TTSX..
Just guessing it should work okay since it was designed for 300 blk speeds.

Next I am going to try some 115 gr berger hunting bullets in 25-223 and see how that works out.