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LANCER'S L5 ADVANCED WARFIGHTER MAGAZINE TO BE INTRODUCED AT SHOT
12/17/2010 10:43:00 AM
Here is a sneak peek at our new L5 Advanced Warfighter Magazine that we will introduce at SHOT 2011
DEALERS Check them out at SHOT, booth 7511 in the LE section
The L5 AWM is a hybrid magazine that combines the best features of polymer and steel magazine designs. Unique to the AWM is the one piece wrap-around hardened steel feed lip assembly that is permanently attached to an impact resistant polymer body. The hardened steel feed lips wont bend, break or deform due to rough handling or long term storage. An aggressive surface texture has been applied to the polymer body to improve gripping and retrieval from pouches. The combination of steel and polymer result in a lightweight, robust magazine tough enough for professional use.
The internal geometry of the Advanced Warfighter Magazine is a constant curve that has been maximized to feed the 5.56X45mm NATO round and has a non-tilting follower for trouble-free feeding. The feed lips are made from a single piece of precision formed steel that is hardened, then PTFE coated for corrosion resistance. The body and component materials are corrosion and chemical resistant, passing military chemical testing, including exposure to DEET.
The L5 AWM is compatible with modern weapon systems; M4/M16/AR, HK416, SCAR-L / Mk16, and the ARX160 to name a few and is available in 20-and 30-round capacity with a translucent or opaque polymer body.
PRICING AND AVAILABILITY WILL BE PUBLISHED JAN 2011
VIDEO
DEALERS Check them out at SHOT, booth 7511 in the LE section
The L5 AWM is a hybrid magazine that combines the best features of polymer and steel magazine designs. Unique to the AWM is the one piece wrap-around hardened steel feed lip assembly that is permanently attached to an impact resistant polymer body. The hardened steel feed lips wont bend, break or deform due to rough handling or long term storage. An aggressive surface texture has been applied to the polymer body to improve gripping and retrieval from pouches. The combination of steel and polymer result in a lightweight, robust magazine tough enough for professional use.
The internal geometry of the Advanced Warfighter Magazine is a constant curve that has been maximized to feed the 5.56X45mm NATO round and has a non-tilting follower for trouble-free feeding. The feed lips are made from a single piece of precision formed steel that is hardened, then PTFE coated for corrosion resistance. The body and component materials are corrosion and chemical resistant, passing military chemical testing, including exposure to DEET.
The L5 AWM is compatible with modern weapon systems; M4/M16/AR, HK416, SCAR-L / Mk16, and the ARX160 to name a few and is available in 20-and 30-round capacity with a translucent or opaque polymer body.
PRICING AND AVAILABILITY WILL BE PUBLISHED JAN 2011
VIDEO
12/17/2010 12:03:13 PM
Interesting design. I'll have to try one of these out.
12/18/2010 5:40:33 AM
1 in each color please 
12/18/2010 6:38:24 AM
Wonder how much they'll run? I'm interested in giving a few a try.
12/19/2010 2:58:59 AM
I'll take one for the team and become Lancers beta tester for about 7 of these things. 
12/19/2010 3:29:16 AM
Originally Posted By Yak9:
I'll take one for the team and become Lancers beta tester for about 7 of these things.
I'll take one for the team and become Lancers beta tester for about 7 of these things.
I'll under cut ya and ask for one to be whore'd out by my tac team equally
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On a serious note, they look pretty interesting and I like the dots to establish grip. I'll have to try a couple out when they come out. I'm pretty much a pmag guy but I'm open to anything if the price isnt too much higher and the function has something to offer.
12/19/2010 6:24:55 AM
These will be on my list of wants when they are out.
12/19/2010 9:32:09 AM
I have mostly USGI and Pmags. I have always meant to try out Lancers, but never got around to it. Glad I didn't get around to it yet, this will the model to try.
12/19/2010 9:37:14 AM
Looks interesting –– I,m in
12/19/2010 5:44:26 PM
How does the floor plate come off ?
12/19/2010 6:44:27 PM
Originally Posted By 1MRBEAN:
How does the floor plate come off ?
How does the floor plate come off ?
Push the button with the tip of a round and slide the bottom off
12/19/2010 7:01:09 PM
Any chance this mag will fit in a AUG Nato or MSAR E4 stock? The original design doesn't because of the rib.
Thx
Thx
12/20/2010 6:25:22 PM
We haven't run them in one yet, they run in H&K416 and SA80 with longer magazine wells, so they might fit.
12/20/2010 8:59:31 PM
Your regular mags run great for my Beowulf. Will these new ones also accomodate the Beowulf round?
12/20/2010 9:23:44 PM
Any chance you'll be making some that that will work with 6.8?
12/20/2010 10:12:23 PM
Have you guys tried any different calibers in these? I am wondering how well these would work for 5.45...
12/20/2010 10:15:47 PM
Will you still be producing the L5A magazines?
12/21/2010 9:51:17 AM
Regarding other calibers, the L5AWM's internal geometry and non-tilt follower has been maximized to run the 5.56X45, so it will likely not run any other caliber rounds. We've tried 5.45X39 and 6.8 and neither will run in the magazine. We have no plans to make dedicated 5.45 or 6.8 version of the L5AWM.
12/21/2010 9:56:35 AM
Originally Posted By brotherzoo:
Will you still be producing the L5A magazines?
Will you still be producing the L5A magazines?
YES, the L5A will not be discontinued.
12/21/2010 3:48:08 PM
Can you tell us more about the rifle in this pic, please? Details on the side-charging upper and the lower. What magwell is that? Is it integral or an add-on?
Thanks much.
Edit: Nevermind I found it. It's your own receiver. I should've paid more attention to your profile pic. Duh.
12/22/2010 9:40:37 AM
Originally Posted By Snootchie_Bootchies:
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/rifle_match.jpg]http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/rifle_match.jpg]http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/rifle_match.jpg
Can you tell us more about the rifle in this pic, please? Details on the side-charging upper and the lower. What magwell is that? Is it integral or an add-on?
Thanks much.
Edit: Nevermind I found it. It's your own receiver. I should've paid more attention to your profile pic. Duh.
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/rifle_match.jpg]http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/rifle_match.jpg]http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/rifle_match.jpg
Can you tell us more about the rifle in this pic, please? Details on the side-charging upper and the lower. What magwell is that? Is it integral or an add-on?
Thanks much.
Edit: Nevermind I found it. It's your own receiver. I should've paid more attention to your profile pic. Duh.
Yes, the Lower is the Lancer L15 and it's sporting the Competition magazine well extension, we have 2 other size magazine well extensions available for the L15
The side charging upper is an LAR ambi side charging upper sporting a custom 16" barrel with rifle length gas system and compensator build by Wheaton Arms. BTW Robbie from Wheaton Arms will share some space at our booth at SHOT 7511, be sure to stop by
12/22/2010 9:56:20 AM
Originally Posted By LancerSystems:
Push the button with the tip of a round and slide the bottom off
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/L5AWM_bottom.jpg
Originally Posted By 1MRBEAN:
How does the floor plate come off ?
How does the floor plate come off ?
Push the button with the tip of a round and slide the bottom off
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/L5AWM_bottom.jpg
Thanks for the info, i kind of thought it worked that way and im glad you moved in that direction.
12/22/2010 11:54:21 AM
Can you post a picture of the back of the magazine? I'd like to know if the notch at the back is rounded like a pmag or square like a standard aluminum mag. My SCAR doesn't do the last round hold open consistantly with pmags or lancers. Thanks.
12/22/2010 12:26:21 PM
Looking forward to price an availability. And any chance for a promo discount of course
12/22/2010 12:51:04 PM
Looks good.
12/22/2010 2:42:32 PM
Originally Posted By wilezcoyote:
Can you post a picture of the back of the magazine? I'd like to know if the notch at the back is rounded like a pmag or square like a standard aluminum mag. My SCAR doesn't do the last round hold open consistantly with pmags or lancers. Thanks.
Can you post a picture of the back of the magazine? I'd like to know if the notch at the back is rounded like a pmag or square like a standard aluminum mag. My SCAR doesn't do the last round hold open consistantly with pmags or lancers. Thanks.
The L5AWM magazines have been extensively tested in the SCAR-L, they lock the bolt back fine.
check the video, at the end you will see a SCAR being fired.
VIDEO
12/22/2010 6:53:47 PM
Originally Posted By LancerSystems:
Regarding other calibers, the L5AWM's internal geometry and non-tilt follower has been maximized to run the 5.56X45, so it will likely not run any other caliber rounds. We've tried 5.45X39 and 6.8 and neither will run in the magazine. We have no plans to make dedicated 5.45 or 6.8 version of the L5AWM.
Regarding other calibers, the L5AWM's internal geometry and non-tilt follower has been maximized to run the 5.56X45, so it will likely not run any other caliber rounds. We've tried 5.45X39 and 6.8 and neither will run in the magazine. We have no plans to make dedicated 5.45 or 6.8 version of the L5AWM.
I am sure your new AWM is going to be popular and keep you busy, but do think about a 5.45, please.
12/23/2010 9:18:04 AM
Originally Posted By SouthPark:
I am sure your new AWM is going to be popular and keep you busy, but do think about a 5.45, please.
Originally Posted By LancerSystems:
Regarding other calibers, the L5AWM's internal geometry and non-tilt follower has been maximized to run the 5.56X45, so it will likely not run any other caliber rounds. We've tried 5.45X39 and 6.8 and neither will run in the magazine. We have no plans to make dedicated 5.45 or 6.8 version of the L5AWM.
Regarding other calibers, the L5AWM's internal geometry and non-tilt follower has been maximized to run the 5.56X45, so it will likely not run any other caliber rounds. We've tried 5.45X39 and 6.8 and neither will run in the magazine. We have no plans to make dedicated 5.45 or 6.8 version of the L5AWM.
I am sure your new AWM is going to be popular and keep you busy, but do think about a 5.45, please.
We've looked at 5.45X39 and 6.8, a polymer version would require dedicated tooling. We don't have any plans to make new tooling to support those calibers at this time.
12/23/2010 10:41:08 AM
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
12/23/2010 11:31:28 AM
Been using the Lancer (among others) for over 2 1/2 years, every since Greg was kind enough to send me an L5 for T&E. Never had the issues with the green follower that some had, but no matter. The magazines plain work.
If the AWM improves upon the L5 (and the L5A), color me impressed.
Good work guys.
If the AWM improves upon the L5 (and the L5A), color me impressed.
Good work guys.
12/24/2010 10:22:59 AM
Originally Posted By MrEvoMan:
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
Pricing will be announced in a couple of weeks
12/25/2010 9:46:27 PM
Originally Posted By LancerSystems:
YES, the L5A will not be discontinued.
Originally Posted By brotherzoo:
Will you still be producing the L5A magazines?
Will you still be producing the L5A magazines?
YES, the L5A will not be discontinued.
Thank you sir. I will give these a try, but I already know I love all my current Lancer mags, and plan to get more.
12/26/2010 10:49:23 PM
The only problem that I have with my lancer magazines is that if the magazine is inserted into a rifle with the bolt closed, charging the bolt will cause the top round to pop up out of the lips and jam usually above the chamber. As long as I make sure to lock the bolt back before putting the magazine in, then no problems.
Are the new warfighter magazines going to have a longer feed lip to prevent this?
Are the new warfighter magazines going to have a longer feed lip to prevent this?
12/27/2010 5:02:24 AM
This is awesome. Cant wait to get my hands on these. I love Magpul, but with all the BS with the Tmag I'm glad to see somebody making quality see through mags.
Do you guys still make the L7 mag? I ordered 2 of them and have been running them ever since...I ordered them the first week they were released. They are excellent mags. I ask bc Im seeing mention of all kinds of other Lancer mags I didnt know about.
Do you guys still make the L7 mag? I ordered 2 of them and have been running them ever since...I ordered them the first week they were released. They are excellent mags. I ask bc Im seeing mention of all kinds of other Lancer mags I didnt know about.
12/27/2010 6:30:24 AM
Originally Posted By Talyn:
Any chance this mag will fit in a AUG Nato or MSAR E4 stock? The original design doesn't because of the rib.
Thx
Any chance this mag will fit in a AUG Nato or MSAR E4 stock? The original design doesn't because of the rib.
Thx
They should. The latest Lancer L5A models fit my E4. Just don't get the regular L5's with the high rib, as they won't work without grinding the rib down.
I have to say that I prefer the L5A's over the PMAGS. They are cheaper (@ Sportsman's Guide) and I like that you can see through them and they have steel feed lips.
12/27/2010 6:49:15 AM
Originally Posted By gt3499a:
The only problem that I have with my lancer magazines is that if the magazine is inserted into a rifle with the bolt closed, charging the bolt will cause the top round to pop up out of the lips and jam usually above the chamber. As long as I make sure to lock the bolt back before putting the magazine in, then no problems.
Are the new warfighter magazines going to have a longer feed lip to prevent this?
The only problem that I have with my lancer magazines is that if the magazine is inserted into a rifle with the bolt closed, charging the bolt will cause the top round to pop up out of the lips and jam usually above the chamber. As long as I make sure to lock the bolt back before putting the magazine in, then no problems.
Are the new warfighter magazines going to have a longer feed lip to prevent this?
Actually, your current L5 shouldn't have the problem you describe. Please send an email to svilardi@lancer-systems.com and we'll exchange that magazine for a new one.
The L5AWM feed lips are stiffer then the existing L5, providing better retention of the rounds when the magazine is dropped or inserted aggressively into a rifle on an open bolt.
12/31/2010 11:17:47 AM
I think this may be the magazine I have waited years for.
12/31/2010 12:27:21 PM
Originally Posted By LancerSystems:
Push the button with the tip of a round and slide the bottom off
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/L5AWM_bottom.jpg
Originally Posted By 1MRBEAN:
How does the floor plate come off ?
How does the floor plate come off ?
Push the button with the tip of a round and slide the bottom off
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/L5AWM_bottom.jpg
Good deal.
I love the L5 mags I have now, but I've always wished that the floorplates were easier to remove.
ETA: Since you guys are doing such a good job with AR mags, I'm curious what your take would be on AK mags? Maybe work with some of the folks that are messing around with AKs in 6.5 Grendel (there currently aren't any AK mags that will work with the 6.5G)?
12/31/2010 2:20:56 PM
I am a big supporter of the L5A and have handed out freebies to a few friends. They have found the same reliability and zero feed issues I told them about. Thanks for that. Now, how about a SCAR 17H. 308's have went crazy sales this last year and $42 for a Cprods 25rounder can be beat. If no, I get it with the tooling, but a good price point would pay of with SCAR owners. Thanks WH55.
12/31/2010 2:40:34 PM
Can you use a Lula loader? IIRC, the others ones don't work real well with the loader.
That doesn't make a mag bad, it is just real nice if my Lula loader will work, because it is awesome.
That doesn't make a mag bad, it is just real nice if my Lula loader will work, because it is awesome.
1/1/2011 2:35:13 AM
Originally Posted By MrEvoMan:
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
For me the steel feed lips are very attractive. Up here in Alaska we have had issues with P mags cracking feed lips in the cold. I still like P mags but its an issue to be considered. The Lancer's metal feed lips may well cure this problem.
Pat
1/1/2011 11:47:49 AM
Originally Posted By Glockfan:
For me the steel feed lips are very attractive. Up here in Alaska we have had issues with P mags cracking feed lips in the cold. I still like P mags but its an issue to be considered. The Lancer's metal feed lips may well cure this problem.
Pat
Originally Posted By MrEvoMan:
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
So, there hasn't been any pricing annouced yet?
I would assume that it HAS to be competitive with the likes of Magpul and the others out there.
When you can get a PMAG now, tested and prove, for under $15, I can't see this one with any improvements being worth more than $20.
For me the steel feed lips are very attractive. Up here in Alaska we have had issues with P mags cracking feed lips in the cold. I still like P mags but its an issue to be considered. The Lancer's metal feed lips may well cure this problem.
Pat
Yep, the Lancers are the tougher magazine. And while Fortier wasn't in zub-zero temps for the test in this article, it does illustrate the point.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Feeding+your+AR%3a+AR+mags%3a+is+there+a+best%3f+The+magazine+has+been...-a0212762057
1/3/2011 8:56:36 AM
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Can you use a Lula loader? IIRC, the others ones don't work real well with the loader.
That doesn't make a mag bad, it is just real nice if my Lula loader will work, because it is awesome.
Can you use a Lula loader? IIRC, the others ones don't work real well with the loader.
That doesn't make a mag bad, it is just real nice if my Lula loader will work, because it is awesome.
The L5AWM's work with both Lula loader designs as well as other commercially available loaders and GI stripper clips
1/3/2011 10:41:20 AM
Originally Posted By LancerSystems:
The L5AWM's work with both Lula loader designs as well as other commercially available loaders and GI stripper clips
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Can you use a Lula loader? IIRC, the others ones don't work real well with the loader.
That doesn't make a mag bad, it is just real nice if my Lula loader will work, because it is awesome.
Can you use a Lula loader? IIRC, the others ones don't work real well with the loader.
That doesn't make a mag bad, it is just real nice if my Lula loader will work, because it is awesome.
The L5AWM's work with both Lula loader designs as well as other commercially available loaders and GI stripper clips
Good to hear......it's January 2011 now.....pricing and availability?
1/3/2011 3:00:32 PM
We will have pricing published by the end of the month.
we expect to have the L5AWM's ready to ship to dealers by the end of Feb early Mar.
we expect to have the L5AWM's ready to ship to dealers by the end of Feb early Mar.
1/3/2011 6:10:50 PM
looks good.
1/3/2011 6:30:24 PM
Can I volunteer to beta test one out of My NFA FNC???
why the fuck did I buy all those pmags
why the fuck did I buy all those pmags
1/3/2011 6:31:55 PM
Awesome. The best AR magazine just got better!
1/6/2011 12:29:27 AM
Do you/will you offer MIL/LEO pricing on your products? (I must have a Lancer lower, I MUST have a Lancer lower, I MUST HAVE a Lancer lower.... )
)1/6/2011 6:28:02 PM
Originally Posted By Yak9:
Do you/will you offer MIL/LEO pricing on your products? (I must have a Lancer lower, I MUST have a Lancer lower, I MUST HAVE a Lancer lower.... )
Do you/will you offer MIL/LEO pricing on your products? (I must have a Lancer lower, I MUST have a Lancer lower, I MUST HAVE a Lancer lower....
)Yes, email me for details svilardi@lancer-systems.com
1/7/2011 12:39:22 AM
Email is inbound. Thank you.
