USGI Tan follower magazines stolen property.

I see many of these for sale on the EE. Brownells, said recently in another thread that these cannot be sold to the public ever, the U.S. Military ownes the rights to the
spring and follower design. When these mags. are being sold for $5.00 each, you know they are not legit. Personally, I would never buy these mags.
If the Govt. wanted to make an example of someone, they could charge you with receiving stolen property, I know, slim chance, although it could happen.

You mean that they will prosecute civvies for picking up their (disposable) trash?

I thought they would be happy someone was cleaning up behind them without a $2.2 bil contract.

(Link to $5 mags?)

If they wanted to crack down on illegal immigration they could also do that. If they wanted to go after you for removing tags from mattresses they could.... They are not all stolen. Many times at the end of a deployment they do not want their magazines back

For 5 bucks a mag I would be all over it.

They'd have a hard time prosecuting, I believe.
In most cases they must prove "knowingly" receiving stolen property.
Let's face it, anytime you buy something used, you take that chance.
So proving the "knowingly" part usually becomes necessary.
Since buying surplus items, especially magazines, has been commonplace for decades,
most buyers would not have a "reasonable expectation" that these were stolen.
Having said that, they could confiscate them if they wanted...buy I seriously doubt they ever would.
And even these will be plentiful on the legitimate surplus market in due time.
Personally, I have no desire for them.
If I were to upgrade my mags, I'd go with Magpul followers and stick with the original springs.
Probably (my opinion) a better mag that way.
But yeah, for $5 each, I'll take 100.

Sorry, not buying it. I have seen these mags for sale in far too many legitimate places.

It is a grey area. They are issued with no expectation that they will be returned. They are not supposed to be resold, but once given out......

There are better things to get worked up about.

I see what you said but I doubt the govt would charge someone for a piece of polymer and a spring unless they find the mags still in the govt plastic bag.

those followers and spring are not marked as govt property nor they have a SN, they're hard to prove as stolen.

It is true. Find the thread titled something like "Brownells USGI magazines" A guy from Brownells joined the discussion and said they were NOT authorized and there is an ongoing investigation as to how they are being sold outside the military.

I'll take my chances for a $5 mag.

Link?

You missed my point. On a small scale they won't do anything, but they are investigating how so many are popping up on the civ. market. I don't know how to do the link thing. Scroll back a few pages and you will find it.

+1

Please post link...

3rd page back, Brownells vs. USGI mags is the title of the thread.

This.

I am not sure on this, but I do not believe that the "military" can own a patent. I am pretty sure about this. Also, if "they" do own it or the rights, doesn't that me that everyone who pays taxes does too?

Soooo, where are these for sale???

No shit, I want to buy some.

Someone was selling these for $100 for 20 shipped on the EE on March 5th. The thread is still there if you go back to it.

Thats crazy i sold 20/$200

Military bought them using tax money, so we own them anyway!

So I should buy some so I can pay for them twice?

Same here.

A large Army surplus store in the area has a pile of them and he goes base to base bidding on what they are selling. He doesn't steal them.

I might have bought some but his price on them is $12.

Hall Monitor thread

So now that the IR laser thing has been effectively settled Agent WU is trying to recover other stuff?

Well, of course Brownell's says that.

I'm in for some at $5 though, got a link?

The gubmint stopped auctioning weapon parts during the Clinton administration, IIRC.

I didn't know that.

Well then where does he get all the stuff they sell?

I don't know where else it would come from.

Have a look.

California PA, not the state.
http://www.calarmy.com/

Edit: I see after re-reading, you said "weapon parts".

Edit again: They are showing "surplus 20 round mags (they actually say "clips" ) and they have a pile of used 30 rounders with brown followers in stock right now, I was there last week.
http://www.calarmy.com/weapons/ammo/

Someone needs to tell the website "Government Liquidation" that.

They auction all kinds of weapon parts. Check out the "advanced search" and you will be amazed at the different categories of stuff they sell (of course not all of it is open to the general public). One of my favorite categories is "space vehicles"

I contacted the guy, He will be in touch

They also sell brass, magazine pouches, etc. They do not auction off magazines.

Paranoia, you got it!

Bullshit, I have ordered from Brownells and gotten Tan ones on 2 different occasions. Most recently I got yellow, but the first 2 times I ordered I got Tan. The funny thing is if you try to request a color, they tell you you get what you get [I was trying to order orange ones that I later found out were c-products knock offs]

Where can i buy these mags for $5 a piece? I'm calling b.s.

i loled

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There have been many ads over the past couple of years selling new military mags for $6-8 shipped.

$6-8 doesnt equal $5 :)

Unless the rules of math have changed, $100 divided by 20 = $5

The point the OP made still applies- 5, 6, 7, or $8 military mags (shipped) are not coming from a legitimate source. The US Gov't is paying more than that for them, and the two manufacturers that sell them charge way more than that for the green follower versions. No matter how many scenarios people keep thinking up, the math simply makes no sense.


If there was a legitimate source for them, companies like 44mag,com, CDNN, LaRue, Palmetto, Bravo, etc would be selling them, especially if the cost was so low that they could be sold for 5 to 8ea. They're not, and that says something.

So, if I sell mine for $12, does that make it more legit?

I have some for sale contact me $10 each or $8 each for 10 or more + shipping

These are surpluss and since the "war" is ending they are sending a ton of stuff back that is why these are coming up for sale now.

No $5.00 ones?

Is there a secret contest for the most obtuse post? Because the responses are getting sillier and sillier.

Considering the theme of the thread; which is indicating that selling certain mags for $5 means there stolen (because no legitimate business could possibly afford those prices), I felt the comment was spot on. The idea that specific popular vendors not carrying an item at a specific cost contrasted to another perceived 'inferior' or 'not as cool' product that is carried at a price three times the price in question is simply asinine. You stated:



I actually found this response to be , well , idiotic. These mags in question are not being sold to us by the US Govt. And even if they were, when was the last time the .mil/.gov made a profit on anything? They sell brand new radial Hummer tires to a vendor retails them for less that $100/unit. By your logic: since 31 inch BFG AT's cost 2.5 times that much, these hummer tires must be stolen. If Harbor Freight carried Craftsman brand tool sets for a third of the cost of the normal brand that they carry; would you not buy them for the fear that they are stolen; because they (HF) possibly cant make any money selling those. Do you not buy the McDonalds .99 cent large tea because every other fast food place in town sells for twice that price (so it must be stolen)?

Am I to assume that every new mag I bought for $5 or less was stolen? Don't be ridiculous.

I swear I just reread your post in Col. Flaggs voice (from MASH)

(acute enough for ya?)

Folks you have not seen waste of money until you have been to Kuwait or saw what was left behind in Iraq. There is no way for you to even imagine the scale I am talking about unless you saw it. Magazines? Hardly a consideration in the magnitude of items we are trying to return to the USA or USAEUR.

FWIW, back in the US in the DRMO lots I have seen, most do contain magazines; some new and most used. They are just tossed in the lot, mixed with the used uniforms and MOLLE junk. They may not intend to sell them but they sure get sold with other stuff at least.

Given: I have not been to Kuwait, Iraq, or any other FOA. I have, however; spent 17 years on the .mil tit. I'll plead the 5th on further comments other than to say "It's all good".

Also DRMO, you gotta love 'em.

This isn't General Discussion and I'm not going to get into a General Discussion pissing contest.

Have a lovely day.

Brownells says they only sell to the military. The magazines must be getting to the dealers FROM the military. Anyone that has ever been on a deployment knows how positivly screwed up and inefficient the military supply system is. The amount of US vehicles and hardware I saw abandoned on the roadside when I drove from Kuwait to Ba'qubah in 2003 was mind blowing(after sitting at Ft. Dix for 3 months being paid to twiddle my thumbs with everyone else attached to the 4th ID) The amount spent on magazines yearly probably doesn't even show up on the 6 billion dollar budget. People here complain that the military spent "millions" developing a new follower, but they don't comprehend that millions of dollars worth of toilet paper and paper clips that are used daily. It is a tiny drop in the bucket.

Its not GD, and it was a direct response to your comment. Thanks for playing...

I guess the PX & Cash Sales better stop selling them.

Curious; whats the price?

trainwreck.......dpmmn

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