ACOG 4x32 ?

How well will this work when things get close and qiuck, say 25yds?

I have conducted multiple CQB ranges using a TA 31 and I will admit it can be a bit disorienting at times. Without a doubt you will have better luck using an Aimpoint or EOTECH in close quarters. That said, I have seen many of my peers become quite proficient with an ACOG in close quarters scenarios. I use a TA01 NSN on my personal rifle (not a good choice for close quarters) but I have found that the TA 31, having dual illumination, provides a bright enough reticle in most lighting conditions to pick up rapidly. So I guess the point is that the ACOG is not and excellent choice for close quarters but depending on the model and amount of practice it can be effective while still allowing you to transition to intermediate range targets more effectively than 1x magnification optics. Thus it becomes an issue of technique insuring that you maintain your natural point of aim and don't lose the target as you transition to the optic.

*ensuring* oops

i love the acog.. when are at less than 25 meters you shouldn't be looking through your optics anyways you can just look over top of your weapon and still be on target. And past that its nice to have a little 4x to tell locals from talibs (even though they are usually one in the same) and get PID

Very true. I guess I should have specified. The ACOG model you choose will determine the method you use. If your ACOG uses the Bindon Aiming Concept (BAC) you can still utilize the optic in a close range scenario. Because you are able to keep both eyes open while acquiring the target the reticle is visible in the field of view for both eyes (same concept as a red dot). Meaning that although the magnified view may be blurry you are still able to make accurate shots based on the image from the non dominate eye. If no BAC don't attempt to use the optic close in.

Good call Wigglesdabum

BAC in 4X ACOG is problematic for many shooters, like me. The reticle is displaced several inches to the left (I'm a leftie) at 12 yards or so.

I can solve this by "winking" my weak (right) eye, and my brain goes over to the dominant eye more exclusively.

You should check out the TA11. It has better specs in my opinion. It's a very very nice optic.

I only posted in this thread because I appreciate someone who knows the difference between "insured" and "ensured."

Be assured, I appreciate it.

damn *dominant* I can't spell today. Well back to preschool for me

I picked the TA11 for the nice eye relief which helps keeping both eyes open for the close ups. This takes people practice. After using my ACOG on a regular basis for a year I am just now noticing I can transition from magnified to non under stress in 3gun comps. It can become easy to keep looking through the magnified view and get lost on close targets. Then just know how high you need to hold for targets less than 25yrds. I caught a good number of penalties shooting at clays posted on the shoulders next to the head of IPSC no-shoot targets at ~ 10yds or so. Something I didn't practice previously.

I have a ta 31f and it works fine for me . the eye relief issue that always comes up is over exagerated . the key is practice, practice , practice.

So for 200yds to 25 yds which acog are your reccomendations. This is going on a 10.5 suppressed. Thanks

TA31 ECOS.

True but doesn't work exactly like a red dot. Takes a lot of practice to become efficient using the BAC at ranges 30m and less.

2" to one side is hardly much of an issue. At 5-25 yards your man sized target is still fairly large and being 2" off POA/POI still gets you well within the vitals. Its also not much different from the vertical offset that you have because of the height over bore at close range. Its just something you need to be cognizant of when shooting at a target that is close.

With a chevron ACOG at <25yards i find it easy enough to use the bottom right of the chevron as the aiming point. (would be bottom left for you) and that gets you closer to being POA/POI.

@ wayfaerer320

nice looking rifle

One of the 3x30 TA33 series; TA33R-8 or TA33G-H for a couple examples. As a plus, you can use the Butler Creek flip caps without using the killflash on this series and shoot OEG style as a CQB option.

I have a question. With the 4x32 BAC models can you still shoot normally with just one eye open one closed, or is it made for 100% shooting all the time binocular method, both eyes open? Reason I ask because the regular 4x32 models (TA01) do not have the Chevron, or circle, etc and I like those a bit more.

Ive went from a TA31 to a TA11 to an Eotech. Theyre awesome scopes but for that close, theyre just not fast enough for me. The TA31 was very uncomfortable to me because the short eye relief did not like my larger than average nose haha

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