Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE:
Good luck with that

Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE:
Good luck with that

Originally Posted By Augee:


It's somewhat disappointing, though unsurprising that you would respond this way.

FM 3-22.9, RIFLE MARKSMANSHIP M16A1, M16A2/3, M16A4, AND M4 CARBINE has this to say on the subject:

Chapter 7: ADVANCED RIFLE MARKSMANSHIP

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-22-9/image1678.jpg

(a) ...A soldier well trained in aimed quick fire can hit
an E-type silhouette target at 25 meters, with the shot or burst striking 5 inches from the
center of mass. This variance of target hit for this type of engagement reinforces the need
for well-aimed shots.

(b) The key to the successful employment of either technique is practice. Both
pointed and aimed quick fire must be repeatedly practiced during dry-fire training. Livefire
exercises provide further skill enhancement and illustrate the difference in accuracy
between the two techniques. Tactical considerations dictate which technique is most
effective in a given situation, and when single shot versus burst fire is used.

(c) Pointed and aimed quick fire should be used only when a target cannot be
engaged fast enough using the sights in a normal manner. These techniques should be
limited to targets appearing at 25 meters or less. Modern short-range combat (SRC)
techniques emphasize carrying the rifle with the butt high, so the rifle sights can be
brought into display as quickly as firing a hasty unaimed shot. In extremely dangerous
moments, special reaction teams (SRTs) commonly advance with weapons shouldered,
aiming as they advance.

...and:

(2) Aiming. This fundamental must be highly modified because the soldier may not
have time to look through the rear sight, find the front sight, and align it with the target.

(a) Aimed. The soldier’s initial focus is on the target. As the rifle is brought up, the
firing eye looks through or just over the rear sight aperture at the target. Using his
peripheral vision, the soldier locates the front sight post and brings it to the center of the
target. When the front sight post is in focus, the shot is fired. Focus remains on the front
sight post throughout the aiming process.

Way back in ancient times when only special folks got to use optics, and everyone else had to make due with a 20" M16A2 musket with a fixed carrying handle, they used to train aimed quick fire using the front sight post only - and it was effective for CQB. The Marines taught this as well, though I don't have their exact document.

Now, all this applies to fast, dynamic shooting.

Here's the thing - if you're experienced on the rifle, you know when it's pointing "straight." You can judge when you've "centered" the front sight post. Given experience and practice - I would think that aimed, prone slow-fire, you could realistically engage a man sized target out past 50 - maybe even 100m. It would not be very accurate, but you could do it. "Per the regs," a man sized target is an 18 MOA target - you "should" be able to shoot 18 MOA even with "point fire" if you were in a good position, knew your natural point of aim (NPOA) because beyond 18 MOA, you would see and sense visible deflection of the weapon.

Is it recommended? No. Is it anywhere near a preferred method of doing things? Not a chance. Can it be done? In a pinch? Certainly.

IMHO, if you're waiting on your rear sight anyways, I'd just as well go ahead and practice close-range aimed quick fire using the front sight post until your rear comes in June.

~Augee

Originally Posted By IcarusY625:
Point shooting with a rifle. It will work....to a point,