what bore brush do you use?
I've never seem to have this issue before, but it seems like the .22 cal Centerfire bore brushes I get to clean my AR just are not tight enough.
I have to wrap a patch around them to get them tight enough
I used to see some packages say 5.56 on them but have not found any they all just say .22 Cal
what brand of bore brush do you use and why do you think this is going on?
and all of my guns have anywhere from 100-1500 rounds through them so I know the bore isn't worn out that much.
Standard issue bronze bore brush that comes with the cleaning rod. Or why don't you try bore snake.
Bore snake for sure!
This seems odd, considering the occupation
bore snake
Bore snake is sahweet. I also use a chamber mop on the barrel extension.
Originally Posted By 458winmag:
This seems odd, considering the occupation
?
Cheap, Winchester-branded .223 bronze brush from Walmart. Don't need anything fancy.
so many of you use a bore snake for your AR and not a rod and brush set up?
I've just always used cleaning rods, I have a good selection of one piece rods for all of my guns
I think I got some bore brushes, a bunch of them at a gun show and they all wore out and I started having to go to a sporting goods store and look for them and all I could find was Hoppes , .22 Cal Center Fire brushes and they are just not tight enough to get the bore clean
Originally Posted By pappy177:
bore snake
+1
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Cheap, Winchester-branded .223 bronze brush from Walmart. Don't need anything fancy.
so the package says ".223" on it?
I will look there next time
Otis kits with the nylon covered bore cable with brass brush & eyelet are all that I use. They are better than anything else I've used in the past.
Originally Posted By skunk-ape:
Originally Posted By 458winmag:
This seems odd, considering the occupation
?
A 22 CF has the same bore dia. as a 5.56. I never had a problem getting bore brushes. Chamber brushes, occasionally.
Things must have changed.
Originally Posted By skunk-ape:
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Cheap, Winchester-branded .223 bronze brush from Walmart. Don't need anything fancy.
so the package says ".223" on it?
I will look there next time
I actually got up and looked at a couple of spares I have after I posted that, and the package is marked .22 cal. That said, they're tight in all of my barrels.
Bore snake

Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Otis kits with the nylon covered bore cable with brass brush & eyelet are all that I use. They are better than anything else I've used in the past.
I have been meaning to get one. I have heard good things about the Otis Cleaning kit.
USGI cleaning kit with a USGI brush
Originally Posted By DonnieBrasco:
Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Otis kits with the nylon covered bore cable with brass brush & eyelet are all that I use. They are better than anything else I've used in the past.
I have been meaning to get one. I have heard good things about the Otis Cleaning kit.
And I've seen bad things. The Bore-snake as well (ME). I'd use either on something larger than .45 cal. Like a shot gun.
It's just too hard to get the broken bits out of the bore on something smaller. IMO
This is really on the wrong Forum.
As if anyone cares
Topic Moved
I like the 12 packs from Sinclair.
Dewy products with correct thread for my rods.
Hoppes burshes are junk and do seam to wear out fast.
brushes are oversized intentionally by the manufacturer. .22 cal brushes are usually approx. .23 or .24 if your really if your really not getting any bronze through, try a .25 nylon cal., in bronze or nylon. Dewey has them in single (2.25) and bulk packs (11.95). www.deweyrods.com
I use a chamber protector maybe that is causing my brushes to wear out prematurely?
I just know that for my other rifles, the right sized brush when they are new have some resistance to them when you work them in and out of the bore.
I am going to order some of the brushes that a few of you linked to above me.
and I'm going to look into a bore snake as well
thanks to all of you for the advice.
A few random thoughts.
Try and buy quality bore and chamber brushes and keep them clean.To clean a bore and chamber brush I soak them in a 4oz. jar of 90%+ isopropyl alcohol,rinse with hot water and dry.I also keep and use several brushes for each caliber as to keep them in rotation.This removes fouling and solvents which extends the life of the brushes and prevents repeated contamination of the bores during the cleaning process.The main killer of bore brushes is bore solvents.Even Hoppe's No.9 as mild as it is will degrade a bore brush after a short period of time.
As I linked above my preference is for the brass core brushes from Dewey,or old stock/surplus USGI bore brushes which are basically identical and spec'd with a brass core/collar.
For a chamber brush I like the Otis chamber brush.Otherwise I use Dewey coated rods at home,a Dewey AR15 chamber kit(the chamber rod doubles as my pistol rod) or a USGI cleaning kit for the field.
Bore snakes are perfectly fine for field use but IMHO do no replace or do as good of a job as a traditional rod/jag/brush combination.The bore snake does nothing for cleaning the AR's chamber or barrel extension lug recess,so you will need to use a chamber brush and rod anyway.Also keep in mind that the bore snakes need to be kept clean,if not they work about as well as cleaning with a dirty bore brush and a dirty patch.They also need to be kept in a ziploc bag or sealed container to keep from picking up environmental contamination such as dust,dirt,potato chip crumbs/salt and the like.Unless you have two different bore snakes for each caliber,using a bore solvent and oil in combination on the same snake does not work.
HTH
UPDATE:
a bud brought his AR by tonight.
I took my brushes I was questioning and they fit loose in his as well.
turns out, I bought 3 Hoppes brushes and just got a bad batch
he had a Pro Shot and it worked fine
I knew there had to be something the matter
Bore snake here as well. I've got a bunch of them now for all my different calibers. I still do have regular bore brushes in my Otis kit which get used sometimes when the fouling in the bore is just too heavy to get out with the bore snake.....which is pretty rare.
There has been a lot of grumblings from those who know more than I for many years now about many of the problems that arise when relying mainly on a bore-snake. Mainly reintroducing the same particulate and other crap over and over down the barrel repeatedly, as opposed to doing a proper cealing with a jag and/or brush and solvents.
I have always heard that a bore snake is great for mid day cleaning, or end of range once overs etc., but does not do work well as a replacement for a rod....
what is this cleaning you describe?
As reported above, Sinclair 12 pack. They are consistently good and last a little longer than hoppes. Get the Montana nylon for Cu solvents.
Dewey full length coated rod and Dewey brush, with Dewey guide. Done.