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Life expectancy of NC spam can vs NC in a box
12/23/2011 9:28:48 PM
I just bought a spam can of non-corrosive 7.62x39 Ulyanovsk to put up for a rainy day and I was wondering, does the spam can really make a difference if the ammunition is kept in a controlled environment (my house)? I recently fired a box of 12 gauge birdshot ammo that I've had for over 25 years, no problems. I also fired some 9mm rounds I've had for close to 20 years and it all went bang. If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
12/24/2011 12:55:54 AM
If everything is kept in a nice controlled environment, that is your ammo is stored in an ammo can with a descant in a cool dry place, then no the spam can will not make it last any longer. That said, the spam can is great insurance if something does happen, or if you're one of those people who keeps it in less then ideal storage conditions.
1/2/2012 3:29:54 PM
Originally Posted By T2OPFOR:
If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
Because the can removes many of the variables of the environment.
1/20/2012 10:34:10 AM
I was wondering if the berdan primers do anything. I have seen some non-corrosive with berdan primers, do they last longer than regular primers? Also, does anyone know how much longer corrosive surplus lasts than NC? I now the Yugo stuff is from the 70s or 80s, would the NC last that long?
1/20/2012 3:58:11 PM
Originally Posted By sporter:
Because the can removes many of the variables of the environment.
Originally Posted By T2OPFOR:
If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
Because the can removes many of the variables of the environment.
That and having it sealed in a can is just easy. Besides, if you look around, it doesn't have to cost more than ammo not in a can.
SGAMMO had the 640 round spam cans of ULY for $124.99 (sold out now)....that's 19.5 cents per round.
AIM has 1000 rnd case of that new KSAP ammo for $189.50....that's 18.9 cents per round.
That's 1/2 cent difference per round.
1/20/2012 7:37:35 PM
Also, does anyone know how much longer corrosive surplus lasts than NC?
In the late 1970s I fired some .38 Spl rounds that were probably 70 years old, at that point. Fired just fine.
I have some 8mm that was loaded in the 1930s, I bet it will shoot just fine.
Corrosive primed ammunition stored properly will outlast any of us.
I have had some mis-fires from some surplus ammunition, but who knows how it was stored?
If it shoots when you get it, and you store it properly, it should be good for a few more decades.
Now, the necks may split. Back in the day, that was a problem.
Nowadays, I wouldn't think it would be a problem. After all, AK ammunition really hasn't been around that long.
2/9/2012 5:34:09 AM
Originally Posted By grendelbane:
In the late 1970s I fired some .38 Spl rounds that were probably 70 years old, at that point. Fired just fine.
I have some 8mm that was loaded in the 1930s, I bet it will shoot just fine.
Corrosive primed ammunition stored properly will outlast any of us.
I have had some mis-fires from some surplus ammunition, but who knows how it was stored?
If it shoots when you get it, and you store it properly, it should be good for a few more decades.
Now, the necks may split. Back in the day, that was a problem.
Nowadays, I wouldn't think it would be a problem. After all, AK ammunition really hasn't been around that long.
Also, does anyone know how much longer corrosive surplus lasts than NC?
In the late 1970s I fired some .38 Spl rounds that were probably 70 years old, at that point. Fired just fine.
I have some 8mm that was loaded in the 1930s, I bet it will shoot just fine.
Corrosive primed ammunition stored properly will outlast any of us.
I have had some mis-fires from some surplus ammunition, but who knows how it was stored?
If it shoots when you get it, and you store it properly, it should be good for a few more decades.
Now, the necks may split. Back in the day, that was a problem.
Nowadays, I wouldn't think it would be a problem. After all, AK ammunition really hasn't been around that long.
I had some surplus 7.62x54r in a zink can... When I got it open, paper that was binding boxes of ammo fell appart, pretty much desintegrated like bunch of old dry leaves...
I looked at the bottom of the case and it was dated to 1947... I only had one missfire from about 200 rounds....
I'm having hard time Identifying the origin... it has what looks like a lion on the bottom of the casing and surprisingly casing is made of brass, so its definatly not Russian...
2/9/2012 11:47:34 PM
My uncle gave me a bunch of 30-06 military ball on 5 rd strippers he brought back from WWII. About 5 yrs ago I shot most of it through a Garand and almost every round fired.
2/11/2012 5:55:41 PM
The spam-can can't but help. But the reality is that the ammunition inside will last longer than you and I will still be sucking air, or our heirs. Blunt but true. 
2/18/2012 6:28:42 PM
I have some WWI 1917 German 8mm machine gun ammo, I fired it in my MG34 and it fired 100%... nice hot machine gun ammo.
2/22/2012 11:23:04 PM
I've never had a problem with old ammo stored in its original packaging inside the gun safe. The only instance I had a problem with was some 30+ year old Remington .25 ACP which didn't have enough power to make the bullet exit the barrel.... Needless to say that stuff went in the trash. I have no idea how it was stored before I got it though and I'm almost certain that it had been subject to some moisture in it's lifetime.
I keep all of my ammo to be stored in .50 cal and .30 cal surplus cans with desicant packs inside to prevent moisture damage. I even have one cannon munitions can I keep various things such as shotgun shells in.... Now if only I could find a good use for that steel artilery powerder charge tube
I keep all of my ammo to be stored in .50 cal and .30 cal surplus cans with desicant packs inside to prevent moisture damage. I even have one cannon munitions can I keep various things such as shotgun shells in.... Now if only I could find a good use for that steel artilery powerder charge tube
3/1/2012 10:10:55 AM
Originally Posted By sporter:
Because the can removes many of the variables of the environment.
Originally Posted By T2OPFOR:
If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
If it is going to be the same w/ my AKM ammo why pay more for the can?
Because the can removes many of the variables of the environment.
yep, sure does .. i've been shooting some polish 50's vintage 7.62x25 tok. i'll get a few duds every now and again, but hell it was cheap
3/2/2012 4:23:49 PM
Corrosive primers are put into ammo to begin with for long term stabilization, ammo is put in cans to reduce oxydation.
