Iraqi Made AK-47 (Tabuk)
Fellow members,
Where can I get if it is possible to get of course, an Iraqi made AK-47 (Tabuk) and how much. Thanks

Check out Two River Arms, they make an excellent Tabuk clone.
thank, I will do so
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
Fellow members,
Where can I get if it is possible to get of course, an Iraqi made AK-47 (Tabuk) and how much. Thanks

Gonna have problems since you live in California.
I carried a Tabuk for awhile. They kind of suck. The Lion is cool and the writing on the originals is in english in a font that looked to me like the font that HK uses on their stamped guns.
how bad are they? they are expensive $1250. how would you rank it compare to what is out there (WASR, AKMS, Yugo,...)
isn't it just a bullet button add on + 10 rd mag on a full stock and it becomes Cali compliant?
Originally Posted By DvlDog:
I carried a Tabuk for awhile. They kind of suck. The Lion is cool and the writing on the originals is in english in a font that looked to me like the font that HK uses on their stamped guns.
I had a nice under folder...but I wouldn't have
bought one.
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
the sad part is that I had the real one back in Baghdad

Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
how bad are they? they are expensive $1250. how would you rank it compare to what is out there (WASR, AKMS, Yugo,...)
They are just nice Yugo builds that are engraved to look like a Tabuk. You could have the same thing built from a Yugo parts kit if you wanted for less money... that's all Two Rivers is doing.
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
A "long range" AK shooting 7.62x39mm is kind of an oxymoron...
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
Or thats the cover story anyway.
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
Or thats the cover story anyway.
Dragunov.net article on the Tabuk
Military Factory article
Not sure what your problem is, or what kind of chip you have on your shoulder, but you're wrong. The Tabuk was made domestically in Egypt using Yugoslavian machinery purchased from Slobodan Milosevic with a license from Zastava. Zastava provided the know-how and technicians until domestic production was brought up to speed using domestic labor. The factory was destroyed by US forces in 2003. Egypt has a history of purchasing machinery from other countries, including the Swiss and Russians, for firearms manufacturing. There's no conspiracy or coverup. It's a well documented fact.
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
Or thats the cover story anyway.
Dragunov.net article on the Tabuk
Military Factory article
Not sure what your problem is, or what kind of chip you have on your shoulder, but you're wrong. The Tabuk was made domestically in Egypt using Yugoslavian machinery purchased from Slobodan Milosevic with a license from Zastava. Zastava provided the know-how and technicians until domestic production was brought up to speed using domestic labor. The factory was destroyed by US forces in 2003. Egypt has a history of purchasing machinery from other countries, including the Swiss and Russians, for firearms manufacturing. There's no conspiracy or coverup. It's a well documented fact.
Easy there Francis......
Most of the pictures on that first link were taken by me in Iraq (all of the pics with the coffee stain desert camo background, and the Tabuk/M203 shot on the rocks).
Everything I have I have ever seen that is made in Iraq is a total piece of shit, guns, grenades, ammo... except for the Tabuk. I highly doubt Iraqi hands touched those during manufacture.
Thanks for all that info and the link, my question is if the 2 rivers Tabuk is as good as the real Tabuk in quality and reliability? I just hate to spend over $1300 for a shity rifle just to get the marking on the damn thing
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
Or thats the cover story anyway.
Dragunov.net article on the Tabuk
Military Factory article
Not sure what your problem is, or what kind of chip you have on your shoulder, but you're wrong. The Tabuk was made domestically in Egypt using Yugoslavian machinery purchased from Slobodan Milosevic with a license from Zastava. Zastava provided the know-how and technicians until domestic production was brought up to speed using domestic labor. The factory was destroyed by US forces in 2003. Egypt has a history of purchasing machinery from other countries, including the Swiss and Russians, for firearms manufacturing. There's no conspiracy or coverup. It's a well documented fact.
You are the first person who ever said they are made in Egypt. Did the Egyptians purchase that Swiss machinery before or after they purchased the Hakim factory from Sweden? How did Milosevic figure into this? He certainly wasn't in a position to negotiate an deals with Egypt or Iraq, since Yugoslavia was still a going concern and he was just a regional pol at the time.
Tabuks look
exactly like Yugo production AKs, including the wood. There are variations in marking, including "slick" Tabuks in Iraq. It has been long discussed in Iraq that Tabuks were made in Yugoslavia with Iraqi marks and smuggled into Iraq, or imported as parts kits and assembled in Iraq to provide a fiction of separation for the Yugo government with regard to Saddam and Iraq-Iran era weapons trade bans.
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
Or thats the cover story anyway.
Dragunov.net article on the Tabuk
Military Factory article
Not sure what your problem is, or what kind of chip you have on your shoulder, but you're wrong. The Tabuk was made domestically in Egypt using Yugoslavian machinery purchased from Slobodan Milosevic with a license from Zastava. Zastava provided the know-how and technicians until domestic production was brought up to speed using domestic labor. The factory was destroyed by US forces in 2003. Egypt has a history of purchasing machinery from other countries, including the Swiss and Russians, for firearms manufacturing. There's no conspiracy or coverup. It's a well documented fact.
You are the first person who ever said they are made in Egypt. Did the Egyptians purchase that Swiss machinery before or after they purchased the Hakim factory from Sweden? How did Milosevic figure into this? He certainly wasn't in a position to negotiate an deals with Egypt or Iraq, since Yugoslavia was still a going concern and he was just a regional pol at the time.
Tabuks look
exactly like Yugo production AKs, including the wood. There are variations in marking, including "slick" Tabuks in Iraq. It has been long discussed in Iraq that Tabuks were made in Yugoslavia with Iraqi marks and smuggled into Iraq, or imported as parts kits and assembled in Iraq to provide a fiction of separation for the Yugo government with regard to Saddam and Iraq-Iran era weapons trade bans.
Actually, there's a few variants of the Iraqi Tabuk full-buttstock and underfolder AKM's that make them different enough from the military-issue Yugoslavian M70 series rifles to not be just Yugoslavian ones (if you're speaking about the actual, real versions of both rifles). Aside from the Iraqi-specific engraving and markings, there's other differences that separate the two rifles:
1. the gas blocks on the Iraqi Tabuks are slightly different (especially with the non-gas cut-off gas block version).
2. the wood furniture on the Iraqi Tabuks are not the same wood as on the Yugoslavian M70's (I believe Iraqi contracted the wood from Finland).
3. the pistol grip has a circular mold marking on the right top side
4. the struts on the Iraqi Tabuk underfolder are not the same as the Yugoslavian M70AB1 (underfolder) struts - the struts on the Iraqi Tabuk are similar in pattern/manufacture as the early Yugoslavian M64 series rifles which has a milled receiver.
5. the front sight base on the Iraqi Tabuk is not the same as the Yugoslavian M70 series rifles. The Iraqi Tabuk mostly used the Yugoslavian M64 style front sight base but they weren't exactly the same (although some Iraqi Tabuks have been observed with a similar Yugoslavian M70 style front sight base but they weren't exactly the same style).
6. the rear sight leaf on the Iraqi Tabuk is a bit differernt than the Yugoslavian M70 series rifles.
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By marcopolo650:
It seems that paying $1250 for a Tabuk is like paying double for a yugo (same freaken gun, just Iraqi emblems and writing)
The Tabuk underfolder is so close to a Yugo, even same wood, that I suspected they were just smuggled in Yugos.
No, they are home grown. Zastava provided the Iraqis with the machinery to build their own version.
Or thats the cover story anyway.
Dragunov.net article on the Tabuk
Military Factory article
Not sure what your problem is, or what kind of chip you have on your shoulder, but you're wrong. The Tabuk was made domestically in Egypt using Yugoslavian machinery purchased from Slobodan Milosevic with a license from Zastava. Zastava provided the know-how and technicians until domestic production was brought up to speed using domestic labor. The factory was destroyed by US forces in 2003. Egypt has a history of purchasing machinery from other countries, including the Swiss and Russians, for firearms manufacturing. There's no conspiracy or coverup. It's a well documented fact.
You are the first person who ever said they are made in Egypt. Did the Egyptians purchase that Swiss machinery before or after they purchased the Hakim factory from Sweden? How did Milosevic figure into this? He certainly wasn't in a position to negotiate an deals with Egypt or Iraq, since Yugoslavia was still a going concern and he was just a regional pol at the time.
Tabuks look
exactly like Yugo production AKs, including the wood. There are variations in marking, including "slick" Tabuks in Iraq. It has been long discussed in Iraq that Tabuks were made in Yugoslavia with Iraqi marks and smuggled into Iraq, or imported as parts kits and assembled in Iraq to provide a fiction of separation for the Yugo government with regard to Saddam and Iraq-Iran era weapons trade bans.
Correction, I meant Iraq, not Egypt. I mixed up the two. Egypt did indeed purchase machinery from Sweden and Russia. Iraq purchased equipment from Zastava. Several sources have claimed that Slobodan Milosevic had something to do with the deal. We also don't know when exactly the Tabuk began to be manufactured. It just says it was manufactured in the '80s. Could have been very late when Milosevic was coming to power. Either way, the Tabuk was made in Iraq. Maybe a few examples that were made in Yugoslavia were imported for testing and training before domestic production could have been brought up to speed.