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 SAR1 at gunshow?
site351  [Team Member]
8/20/2011 6:16:51 PM
I saw what I thought was a nice romny sar1 today at the gunshow .The guy wanted 500 bucks for it. I bet I could get it for less
I thought I saw here ...most thought they were hard to find and anything around 500 was a deal...was I wrong, it has a nice straight stock
and the wood looks great...I hope its still there tpmorrow...deal or not ?
chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/20/2011 7:34:57 PM
I'd say it is. And, the prices are only going to go up. Considering stock WASR 10's were selling for 500+ at my gun show the other week, I'd say that's a good deal!
My friend has a SAR-1. Fun to shoot
site351  [Team Member]
8/20/2011 10:02:06 PM
Originally Posted By chris-gonzalez-tx:
I'd say it is. And, the prices are only going to go up. Considering stock WASR 10's were selling for 500+ at my gun show the other week, I'd say that's a good deal!
My friend has a SAR-1. Fun to shoot


I am reccomending thr rifle to a friend ..I SAY IT WOULD BE A GREADT DEAL FOR a beginner weapon.he could fire it 1000 rounds and move on to an upgrade
if the dude comes down 50 bucks ..its mine..looks like just came out of thehr box
chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/20/2011 10:31:23 PM
Well if it's the last day of the gun day you might be able to strike it for a little less. Most vendors are trying to get rid of their merchandise while they're there. See if he'll go down to 450, or even 400.
Good luck, brother
devinsdad  [Member]
8/21/2011 1:44:01 PM
Take $20's as it looks more impressive. Put 20 of them on the table ($400) and shoot for that. Hard to argue with cash.
chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/21/2011 1:48:17 PM
Originally Posted By devinsdad:
Take $20's as it looks more impressive. Put 20 of them on the table ($400) and shoot for that. Hard to argue with cash.


Haha, also a surefire plan

site351  [Team Member]
8/21/2011 4:37:01 PM
Originally Posted By chris-gonzalez-tx:
Originally Posted By devinsdad:
Take $20's as it looks more impressive. Put 20 of them on the table ($400) and shoot for that. Hard to argue with cash.


Haha, also a surefire plan



doesn't matter now ....it sold........snooze ya lose
chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/21/2011 5:44:53 PM
Sorry to hear that
Sar-1's are some of the better Romanian AK variants. Did it have any cants?


mrbullets  [Member]
8/22/2011 1:44:38 PM
Originally Posted By site351:
Originally Posted By chris-gonzalez-tx:
Originally Posted By devinsdad:
Take $20's as it looks more impressive. Put 20 of them on the table ($400) and shoot for that. Hard to argue with cash.


Haha, also a surefire plan



doesn't matter now ....it sold........snooze ya lose


The price was fair but not a steal. Anyway, the old saw about waiting for the last day of a gunshow to score big doesn't work as well as it used to. Good deals are snapped up quickly on Saturday morning, and the super duper bargains are all gone Friday (set-up) night as the vendors scour each others' tables .........

site351  [Team Member]
8/22/2011 4:18:17 PM
LOOKED STRAIGHT TO ME
Originally Posted By chris-gonzalez-tx:
Sorry to hear that
Sar-1's are some of the better Romanian AK variants. Did it have any cants?




chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/22/2011 6:18:12 PM
Originally Posted By mrbullets:
Originally Posted By site351:
Originally Posted By chris-gonzalez-tx:
Originally Posted By devinsdad:
Take $20's as it looks more impressive. Put 20 of them on the table ($400) and shoot for that. Hard to argue with cash.


Haha, also a surefire plan



doesn't matter now ....it sold........snooze ya lose


The price was fair but not a steal. Anyway, the old saw about waiting for the last day of a gunshow to score big doesn't work as well as it used to. Good deals are snapped up quickly on Saturday morning, and the super duper bargains are all gone Friday (set-up) night as the vendors scour each others' tables .........



True. I guess the good thing about living where I live is that com-bloc, and surplus rifles aren't what people want to buy, so I can usually haggle the vendors down a bit. Seems like most people in Texas are more interested in handguns, and American hunting rifles Me and my dad actually brought in a magna-ported 44 s&w to sell. Haha, as soon as we walked in we had vendors trying to grab it. Sold fast.
jestice75  [Member]
8/22/2011 10:10:55 PM
SAR isn't any better than a WASR, just has the dimples as an AK should. Most WASRs at least have threaded barrels and bayonet lugs.
PreemptiveStrike  [Team Member]
8/23/2011 6:46:50 PM
Originally Posted By jestice75:
SAR isn't any better than a WASR, just has the dimples as an AK should. Most WASRs at least have threaded barrels and bayonet lugs.


I would respectfully disagree with your statement. I agree that there are nothing wrong with WASRs but the SAR1s are IMO much better. They have a much better finish and much smoother internals and operation. SAR1s can easily be threaded and less easily have metal welded on and formed not a bayonet lug, but it can be done. Like I said nothing wrong with WASRs but they aren't better than SARs.
chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/23/2011 9:01:30 PM
Originally Posted By PreemptiveStrike:
Originally Posted By jestice75:
SAR isn't any better than a WASR, just has the dimples as an AK should. Most WASRs at least have threaded barrels and bayonet lugs.


I would respectfully disagree with your statement. I agree that there are nothing wrong with WASRs but the SAR1s are IMO much better. They have a much better finish and much smoother internals and operation. SAR1s can easily be threaded and less easily have metal welded on and formed not a bayonet lug, but it can be done. Like I said nothing wrong with WASRs but they aren't better than SARs.


+1
jestice75  [Member]
8/25/2011 5:59:36 PM
Originally Posted By PreemptiveStrike:
Originally Posted By jestice75:
SAR isn't any better than a WASR, just has the dimples as an AK should. Most WASRs at least have threaded barrels and bayonet lugs.


I would respectfully disagree with your statement. I agree that there are nothing wrong with WASRs but the SAR1s are IMO much better. They have a much better finish and much smoother internals and operation. SAR1s can easily be threaded and less easily have metal welded on and formed not a bayonet lug, but it can be done. Like I said nothing wrong with WASRs but they aren't better than SARs.


The SAR-1 I own and other SARs that I've fired have all had horrible trigger slap. WASRs come with Tapco triggers which are way smoother. If we're talking about what you can do to fix them up, like welding a lug or threading a barrel, you can duracoat a WASR and have a better finish.
chris-gonzalez-tx  [Member]
8/25/2011 10:38:23 PM
Originally Posted By jestice75:
Originally Posted By PreemptiveStrike:
Originally Posted By jestice75:
SAR isn't any better than a WASR, just has the dimples as an AK should. Most WASRs at least have threaded barrels and bayonet lugs.


I would respectfully disagree with your statement. I agree that there are nothing wrong with WASRs but the SAR1s are IMO much better. They have a much better finish and much smoother internals and operation. SAR1s can easily be threaded and less easily have metal welded on and formed not a bayonet lug, but it can be done. Like I said nothing wrong with WASRs but they aren't better than SARs.


The SAR-1 I own and other SARs that I've fired have all had horrible trigger slap. WASRs come with Tapco triggers which are way smoother. If we're talking about what you can do to fix them up, like welding a lug or threading a barrel, you can duracoat a WASR and have a better finish.


Can't the same be said about changing the SAR-1's trigger for a G2 or Red Star? SAR's are built on a correct AKM receiver, while WASR's are originally built on single-stack receivers converted to double-stack(which is why people complain about the mag wobble). They both have pro's and con's. Honestly, you just need to hold a gun in your hands and inspect it to see if it's worth it
V42  [Member]
9/7/2011 1:25:39 AM
The Sar-1 was originally manufactured toaccept double column magazines, whereas the WASR was manufactured for single column magazines and modifed in the US by Century. This mod is frequently a source of function issues with the Wasr and needs to be fixed.
MajMadMax  [Member]
9/8/2011 6:06:59 PM
I've got a SAR-1 sidefolder and a WASR-10/63 (Henderson Defense Industries) and while both are nice, the SAR is a better rifle.

Oddly enough, I got it during a similar experience at a gun show. I saw it on a table with a ridiculous price on it, but the seller was willing to barter on it so we went back and forth for a while until we got close. Then we decided to flip a coin to settle the remaining difference and I won. I didn't get the greatest deal, but I got a great SAR-1 so I was happy!

I would not pass on one that was reasonably priced!

Cheers! M2
babarsac  [Member]
9/15/2011 3:34:10 PM
I'd say $500 is on the high end for a SAR-1. With a x39 Saiga still running under $400 you might want consider converting one of those. The only reason I picked up a SAR instead was because I found one for about $300.