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 gonna buy a p226 which trigger should I get srt or dak??
ypd260  [Member]
2/14/2012 6:55:21 PM
Im buying my first sig in a few weeks and I cant deciede to get the srt trigger or the DAK trigger? any information or opinions would be helpful.
Thanks
gonoles  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 7:17:06 PM
I like the SRT, its one of the best SA/DA triggers on the market. I am not a fan of DAO semiautos.
gonoles  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 7:17:21 PM
Maybe I need a DAO posting button to avoid negligent double taps.
ypd260  [Member]
2/15/2012 3:23:45 PM
I have only heard great things about the srt but i have also heard good about the DAK. Im leaning more towards the srt at this point
KaProw  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 3:30:37 PM
I have a Gen I P239 SAS w/ DAK. It's pretty nice. I like the trigger and it's easy to shoot well.
goodmedicine  [Life Member]
2/15/2012 3:32:48 PM
Really like the srt.


GM
Tango_6  [Member]
2/15/2012 3:40:02 PM
from what I have read, the DAK trigger is the same poundage everytime you pull the trigger, the srt is 1 poundage for the first pull and a lot less for the second because its hammer is cocked back. the SRT reduces the trigger length after each trigger pull. I bought a 226 with the SRT I havent taken it the range yet the weather is bad here in IL>
MaineAR  [Member]
2/15/2012 3:45:06 PM
I went SRT for my Sigs....they have been fantastic.
ypd260  [Member]
2/15/2012 4:08:41 PM
come on now. the weather here in illinois aint that bad just a week ago it was 65 degrees and this week it 13 degrees with wind Gotta love the midwest.
Let me know how you like the srt after you shoot it.
TomHighway  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 5:25:13 PM
I personally prefer the SRT and having the decocker is nice as well.

With the DAK, you get a constant trigger pull, but no decocker.

The good news is, no matter which you get, the parts are available to switch to the other system if you like, for a fee of course.
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 6:04:25 PM
I have two Sigs with the SRT. I think its great.

Having said that....

The two most difficult things to master for accurate shooting are:

Trigger contol
Sight Alignment and Sight Picture

The DAK for all intents and purposes has one trigger pull for the gun, meaning you only have one trigger pull to learn. WIth a DA/SA trigger, even one as sweet as the SRT, is two different trigger pulls, which is more difficult for people to master.

It can certainly be done, but it is more complex than the DAK trigger.

If my Department issued Sig had a DAK trigger, I would have my Sigs with a DAK...
ypd260  [Member]
2/15/2012 6:08:40 PM
So with the DAK there is no decocker? thats no good i want the decocker.
gunnut284  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 6:20:11 PM
I don't care for the DAK. I have one in my duty gun (issued) and previously had the regular DA/SA, I prefer the DA/SA.
glaze222  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 8:18:10 PM
S.R. to the T.
USP45_Freak  [Member]
2/15/2012 8:26:14 PM
SRT FTW!!!!
KaProw  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 8:45:27 PM
DAK actually has two different trigger pulls/weights and two reset points.

It has the the 6.5lb long pull with a full trigger reset and it also has a shorter reset with a 7-8lb pull with less trigger travel.

It takes getting used to, but it is really cool once you get the hang of it.

TomHighway  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 8:52:43 PM
Originally Posted By ypd260:
So with the DAK there is no decocker? thats no good i want the decocker.


The only way to have both the DAK and the decocker is to have two guns. Sorry.

If you look at a SIG with the DAK trigger, you will see the absence of a decocker lever.

bwall85  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 8:54:47 PM
Originally Posted By USP45_Freak:
SRT FTW!!!!


QFT
SGB  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 9:28:18 PM
SRT
ColdBlood  [Member]
2/16/2012 3:30:35 AM
Originally Posted By ypd260:
So with the DAK there is no decocker? thats no good i want the decocker.


There's no reason to put a decocker on a double action only gun...the hammer doesn't cock until you start pulling the trigger, so you would never be able to use it.

I'm not familiar with the DAK (I don't think they made them when my dad had his gun shop), but in my opinion, fuck the DAO semi-autos. I have never understood the appeal of a long, heavy trigger pull on every shot, other than its slightly more "dummy proof". If you want dummy proof, buy a revolver...at least with (most of) those you can still cock the hammer back and fire in single action mode.

SA/DA is great because you can store the weapon uncooked and you just have a long/heavy pull for that first shot...once you start shooting, you have a nice clean SA trigger pull. If you have any desire to do any target shooting, SA/DA is the only way to go, IMO.
MaxxII  [Team Member]
2/16/2012 6:57:07 PM
Originally Posted By ColdBlood:
Originally Posted By ypd260:
So with the DAK there is no decocker? thats no good i want the decocker.


There's no reason to put a decocker on a double action only gun...the hammer doesn't cock until you start pulling the trigger, so you would never be able to use it.

I'm not familiar with the DAK (I don't think they made them when my dad had his gun shop), but in my opinion, fuck the DAO semi-autos. I have never understood the appeal of a long, heavy trigger pull on every shot, other than its slightly more "dummy proof". If you want dummy proof, buy a revolver...at least with (most of) those you can still cock the hammer back and fire in single action mode.

SA/DA is great because you can store the weapon uncooked and you just have a long/heavy pull for that first shot...once you start shooting, you have a nice clean SA trigger pull. If you have any desire to do any target shooting, SA/DA is the only way to go, IMO.


Its not a long heavy trigger pull.

DAK is not the standard DAO trigger pull. Its about 8 lbs. There are two different trigger pulls, but in shooting my Dad's DAK 229, and in dry firing it, I honestly could feel the difference between the two.

OP, if the gunstore has both in stock, or another Sig model with a DAK trigger in stock, I would reccomend dry firing both if the store will allow you to do so. Then decide.

1Wolf  [Member]
2/17/2012 12:17:53 AM
I really like the the SRT. I haven't tried the DAK so I can't speak for it.
grn06rubi  [Team Member]
2/17/2012 12:27:48 AM
just installed the SRT on my P226. Amazing, i absolutely love it.

I havent ever fired a sig in double action only so i cant speak for it.

But i wont own another DA/SA sig without the SRT
JohnnyC  [Member]
2/17/2012 3:56:37 AM
SRT all the way.

DAK, I didn't care for. 2 DAO trigger weights?! WTFHUH? Just didn't suit me. At least a revolver is totally consistent. The DAK I tried was just weird all the way through. Granted it was only one gun, so maybe something was funky, but I just wasn't a fan at all. My DAK groups were bigger than my DA groups decocking after every shot with my 229.
ColdBlood  [Member]
2/18/2012 7:23:56 AM
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Originally Posted By ColdBlood:
Originally Posted By ypd260:
So with the DAK there is no decocker? thats no good i want the decocker.


There's no reason to put a decocker on a double action only gun...the hammer doesn't cock until you start pulling the trigger, so you would never be able to use it.

I'm not familiar with the DAK (I don't think they made them when my dad had his gun shop), but in my opinion, fuck the DAO semi-autos. I have never understood the appeal of a long, heavy trigger pull on every shot, other than its slightly more "dummy proof". If you want dummy proof, buy a revolver...at least with (most of) those you can still cock the hammer back and fire in single action mode.

SA/DA is great because you can store the weapon uncooked and you just have a long/heavy pull for that first shot...once you start shooting, you have a nice clean SA trigger pull. If you have any desire to do any target shooting, SA/DA is the only way to go, IMO.


Its not a long heavy trigger pull.

DAK is not the standard DAO trigger pull. Its about 8 lbs. There are two different trigger pulls, but in shooting my Dad's DAK 229, and in dry firing it, I honestly could feel the difference between the two.

OP, if the gunstore has both in stock, or another Sig model with a DAK trigger in stock, I would reccomend dry firing both if the store will allow you to do so. Then decide.



I've felt them...my dad owned a gun shop and I worked there for almost ten years...sold a lot of Sigs, Glocks and several other brands that were offering DAO at the time. They do lighten those up quite a bit, but any DAO will feel somewhat long (and most are heavier) when compared to the crisp/short SA pull of a DA/SA type gun. DAO will usually be longer because the hammer/striker has to be "cocked" as you pull the trigger...more stuff going on. Even a Glock with a 3.5 lb kit doesn't compare to the crisp 4.5 lb single action pull of the Sig.

And don't anyone freak out, I still like Glocks, but I personally shoot better groups with a DA/SA Sig, which I attribute a lot to the trigger pull (Glocks do have accurate barrels). Obviously for HD/CCW use, some people may find a DAO more appropriate....but if that's case, I would probably opt for something like a Glock.
jeffm1000  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 8:58:52 AM
The DAK is a smooth consistent pull for each and every shot. It's a personal preference but

I can tell you from experience that you can become very proficient with little practice. With the

DAK there is no reason for a decocker as the hammer is never cocked to the rear unless

you are pressing the trigger. Get what you are comfortable with.
gunnut284  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 2:08:38 PM
For what it's worth, the DAK is not intended to be used with both trigger pulls, the shorter (and heavier) pull is only so the gun will still fire if the shooter shorts the reset. It is supposed to be fired like a revolver trigger.
ypd260  [Member]
2/20/2012 12:25:07 PM
Anyone know if the basic P226 comes with the SRT trigger? Im getting one with nightsights and I need to know if it will come with the srt??
ColdBlood  [Member]
3/8/2012 4:35:06 AM
Originally Posted By ypd260:
Anyone know if the basic P226 comes with the SRT trigger? Im getting one with nightsights and I need to know if it will come with the srt??


I don't think so...if it's there, they will mention it on the specs page. The SRT is nice, but there's nothing wrong with the standard one...I've done some of my best shooting with a plain old p226 (back when it only came in one config).
MaxxII  [Team Member]
3/8/2012 6:58:18 PM
Originally Posted By ypd260:
Anyone know if the basic P226 comes with the SRT trigger? Im getting one with nightsights and I need to know if it will come with the srt??


It doesnt.

dubyaS  [Member]
3/8/2012 9:24:25 PM
You do understand that its most likely you couldn't tell the difference between the DA/SA standard and the DA/SA SRT?
MaxxII  [Team Member]
3/8/2012 10:48:44 PM
Originally Posted By dubyaS:
You do understand that its most likely you couldn't tell the difference between the DA/SA standard and the DA/SA SRT?


IME, everyone who has tried my SRT vs their DA/SA standard trigger has immediately noticed and commented on the difference between the two.
The shorter reset is immediately noticeable, and several (but not all) also notice the creep/slack in the stock trigger is no longer present in the SRT.


walkerjay  [Member]
3/9/2012 11:30:05 AM
From my experience, the trigger pull and shorter reset with the SRT is great, and is very obvious. I find it easier to get more rounds on target faster, with more consistent groups, firing a sig p226 with SRT and one without.

You do not have to release the trigger nearly as far. For instance, with a Springfield Armory XDM, I almost felt I had to take my finger off the trigger to get it to reset - it was that big a difference. Shorter reset means less mechanical movement in your finger and hand. To me, that says your chances for more consistent shooting goes up. If I compare the sig with SRT to a nonSRT Sig, Glock, Sprinfield XDM, Ruger, and Beretta - the SRT on the SIG has a dramatically better feel to me personally than any of the others - of course YMMV.

While my first answer would be that i would,never buy a handgun without the SRT, I suspect I would have a harder time with a pistol that did NOT have the SRT - so I may get another handgun without SRT just so I am use to something different.