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Colt XSE Govt. versus Colt "1991" Govt. P.S. The "1991" won
9/23/2011 4:31:36 PM
This thread was formally known as "How much for a used Colt Series 70 or something like that. Got my questions answered there so I figured I'd ask another relevant one.
There is a blued Colt Govt. XSE with 100 year rollmark at my local shop for $989. They also have a stainless Govt. in the "1991" configuration with the 100 year rollmark for $925. Here's my question. Why the disparity in price. Surely the three dot sights, beavertail, ambidextrous safety, full length guide rod, and skeletonized trigger & hammer that come with the XSE are valued at significantly more than the $74 difference between it and the stainless. To upgrade the stainless to that configuration would cost me at least a couple hundred for parts & labor. What gives? The XSE has rear and front slanted serrations. The stainless has straight rear serrations only. I got my questions answered by a Colt rep and decided on the gun that felt right for me. Here's what followed me home today. In just a matter of days I go from looking at a "parts gun" with a Colt slide to a brand new Government stainless and I couldn't be happier. The details of my thought process are chronicled here:
The 1911 as a fighting pistol
Guess I'm in the club, now.
below is the original text from the original post:
Colt MkIV/Series 70 stainless basic features. I saw it for $525 tax not included. Good deal or no? I'm thinkng it might be a good base to build on. What say the hive?
I could see a screw in the trigger. It had a basic beavertail, hammer, and factory sights. Seemed a little worn on the frame. It felt loose in the beavertail and kind of mushy in the trigger.
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There is a blued Colt Govt. XSE with 100 year rollmark at my local shop for $989. They also have a stainless Govt. in the "1991" configuration with the 100 year rollmark for $925. Here's my question. Why the disparity in price. Surely the three dot sights, beavertail, ambidextrous safety, full length guide rod, and skeletonized trigger & hammer that come with the XSE are valued at significantly more than the $74 difference between it and the stainless. To upgrade the stainless to that configuration would cost me at least a couple hundred for parts & labor. What gives? The XSE has rear and front slanted serrations. The stainless has straight rear serrations only. I got my questions answered by a Colt rep and decided on the gun that felt right for me. Here's what followed me home today. In just a matter of days I go from looking at a "parts gun" with a Colt slide to a brand new Government stainless and I couldn't be happier. The details of my thought process are chronicled here:
The 1911 as a fighting pistol
Guess I'm in the club, now.
below is the original text from the original post:
Colt MkIV/Series 70 stainless basic features. I saw it for $525 tax not included. Good deal or no? I'm thinkng it might be a good base to build on. What say the hive?
I could see a screw in the trigger. It had a basic beavertail, hammer, and factory sights. Seemed a little worn on the frame. It felt loose in the beavertail and kind of mushy in the trigger.
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9/23/2011 4:44:06 PM
If close examination doesn't prove it to be 'bubazized', and it's still factory, the price isn't bad.
9/23/2011 9:38:04 PM
eta: fair price for a worked over colt
9/24/2011 6:26:51 PM
Boo. 
It's just a Colt slide on an essex frame - a parts gun as the store rep put it. I guess I'm back to looking at the new models. There was a blued one with a particularly dark finish with flat mainstream housing, nice beavertail, and skeletonized trigger and hammer. It had three dot sights but none of the Colts have night sights that I've seen. It had front serrations which I'm still on the fence as to whether I prefer the slide without them. Looked like rosewood grips but no logo. Price was $989.
They had a neat little lightweight Commander on an officer frame, I believe it was. Light wood grips that said Colt on them. Price was $1095.
It's just a Colt slide on an essex frame - a parts gun as the store rep put it. I guess I'm back to looking at the new models. There was a blued one with a particularly dark finish with flat mainstream housing, nice beavertail, and skeletonized trigger and hammer. It had three dot sights but none of the Colts have night sights that I've seen. It had front serrations which I'm still on the fence as to whether I prefer the slide without them. Looked like rosewood grips but no logo. Price was $989.
They had a neat little lightweight Commander on an officer frame, I believe it was. Light wood grips that said Colt on them. Price was $1095.
9/26/2011 1:38:01 PM
New question about Colt models.
P.S. slide to frame fit was a little better on the XSE than the government stainless. The government stainless also has standard thumb safety unlike the XSE. Trigger was a little mushy on both. Not much you can do about that I suppose. Will a new trigger alone fix that or is it a combination of parts that a smith installs and "tunes" to get a better trigger?
P.S. slide to frame fit was a little better on the XSE than the government stainless. The government stainless also has standard thumb safety unlike the XSE. Trigger was a little mushy on both. Not much you can do about that I suppose. Will a new trigger alone fix that or is it a combination of parts that a smith installs and "tunes" to get a better trigger?
