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cleaned MKII, put it together, bolt wont pull back. i now have a deep hatred for Rugers.
2/8/2011 10:13:50 PM
i took the Ruger MKII .22LR pistol apart, cleaned it very nice, and when i went to put it back together, the bolt stop pin on the locking piece that goes in the back of the grip, slipped into the bolt instead of the hole through the receiver like it was suppose to.
it took NO force or effort for it to slip into there. simply a "whoops, slipped into the wrong spot" ( imaging using a 1/4th of the strength in your thumb to push it, thats how easy it slid into the wrong spot )
it would NOT come out. i had to wrap a vice grips and pull down ward to get it out.
ive been reading tutorials and watching the video on how to re-assemble them and NO luck what so ever. i see no bent parts, no burrs, nothing out of the ordinary.
now- the bolt, sometimes binds up and will not slide into the receiver.
then you get it to slide in, and you latch the assembly that locks the gun together.
the safety will not budge now. it moves if the gun is apart, but not once you put it together.
pull back and release the slide, the gun fires immediately. loaded or empty. you put a loaded mag in it, close the slide, bam. but it does not reset the hammer even if it ejects the empty shell and chambers a live round.
the gun worked "fine" before this. and by fine, i mean, it fired / ejected fine 95% of the time, AFTER i replaced the 3 springs in the top end, recoil, extractor and that tiny spring that holds the firing pin / striker backwards.
seriously, what the fuck. they design a gun that is a cock sucker and takes 7 steps, 3 circus clowns and a monkey jumping through hoops to put back together, and if one part is 1/4 inch out of line, youre fucked.
fuck Ruger. this is the 3rd or 4th piece of shit ive owned of theirs. never again.
is there something i need to line up better, or do i need to send it to Ruger ?
it took NO force or effort for it to slip into there. simply a "whoops, slipped into the wrong spot" ( imaging using a 1/4th of the strength in your thumb to push it, thats how easy it slid into the wrong spot )
it would NOT come out. i had to wrap a vice grips and pull down ward to get it out.
ive been reading tutorials and watching the video on how to re-assemble them and NO luck what so ever. i see no bent parts, no burrs, nothing out of the ordinary.
now- the bolt, sometimes binds up and will not slide into the receiver.
then you get it to slide in, and you latch the assembly that locks the gun together.
the safety will not budge now. it moves if the gun is apart, but not once you put it together.
pull back and release the slide, the gun fires immediately. loaded or empty. you put a loaded mag in it, close the slide, bam. but it does not reset the hammer even if it ejects the empty shell and chambers a live round.
the gun worked "fine" before this. and by fine, i mean, it fired / ejected fine 95% of the time, AFTER i replaced the 3 springs in the top end, recoil, extractor and that tiny spring that holds the firing pin / striker backwards.
seriously, what the fuck. they design a gun that is a cock sucker and takes 7 steps, 3 circus clowns and a monkey jumping through hoops to put back together, and if one part is 1/4 inch out of line, youre fucked.
fuck Ruger. this is the 3rd or 4th piece of shit ive owned of theirs. never again.
is there something i need to line up better, or do i need to send it to Ruger ?
2/9/2011 12:45:45 AM
just to add- that little pin that is on the back of the hammer- i just reassembled the gun for the 15th time, and WATCHED as that pin locked into place in the locking piece that holds the gun together- so i KNOW that part is in the right spot-
still- hammer drops ( fires ) when you close the bolt and the safety switch wont move.
still- hammer drops ( fires ) when you close the bolt and the safety switch wont move.
2/9/2011 1:08:11 AM
After you put the rod thru the upper/bolt, tilt the gun up (~45 deg) and pull the trigger, then swing the arm into the frame.
2/9/2011 2:12:54 AM
Originally Posted By goldeyeslayer:
After you put the rod thru the upper/bolt, tilt the gun up (~45 deg) and pull the trigger, then swing the arm into the frame.
After you put the rod thru the upper/bolt, tilt the gun up (~45 deg) and pull the trigger, then swing the arm into the frame.
currently the gun will dry fire if i hold the gun pointed up and cock it. then pull the trigger and it fires.
if i cock it with the barrel horizontal, it just slam fires or fires out of battery, the hammer rolls forward with the bolt. ––- theres no response in the trigger.
ive disassembled and reassembled it about 20 times now, 1/2 the times it does this, the other half of the times its just locked up ( when that pin isnt in the locking mechanism properly. )
2/9/2011 2:17:05 AM
I meant do that when reassembling it
2/9/2011 2:19:50 AM
Originally Posted By goldeyeslayer:
I meant do that when reassembling it
I meant do that when reassembling it
yeah, tried that again just now. now the bolt wont pull back more than 1/4 inch.
2/9/2011 2:24:34 AM
Hmmmm. I must be the only one on the planet that doesn 't have problems putting one back together. Good friend of mine refuses to take his down.
eta: I know nobody wants to hear this, but the first time I had trouble I had to open the manual and follow it step by step/word for word. Not doing what I knew had to happen, just doing what it said.
eta: I know nobody wants to hear this, but the first time I had trouble I had to open the manual and follow it step by step/word for word. Not doing what I knew had to happen, just doing what it said.
2/9/2011 2:31:38 AM
reasembled it again. bolt pulls back, but no trigger response again, as if the hammer isnt held back by a spring. i never touched the springs / trigger assembly aside from wiping them down with q-tips.
2/9/2011 3:01:55 AM
Just curious, but why would you hate Ruger if it worked before you 'fiddled' with it. (thats what my father always said when I F'd something up)
If you can't figure out what you did wrong just take it to a gunsmith and have it put together right.
If you can't figure out what you did wrong just take it to a gunsmith and have it put together right.
2/9/2011 9:49:23 AM
Originally Posted By frogdiver:
Just curious, but why would you hate Ruger if it worked before you 'fiddled' with it. (thats what my father always said when I F'd something up)
If you can't figure out what you did wrong just take it to a gunsmith and have it put together right.
Just curious, but why would you hate Ruger if it worked before you 'fiddled' with it. (thats what my father always said when I F'd something up)
If you can't figure out what you did wrong just take it to a gunsmith and have it put together right.
it "worked" before i fiddled with it about 90-95% of the time. so it wasnt perfect to start.
why should i like a gun that can be fucked up just by being put back together?
2/9/2011 1:20:07 PM
found the problem- there is a spring with a tail on it in the back of the frame-
this slipped out of place, yet i never touched that area during cleaning
still have to test fire it. but its functioning fine while empty.
this slipped out of place, yet i never touched that area during cleaning
still have to test fire it. but its functioning fine while empty.
2/9/2011 1:43:48 PM
Yup, detail stripping one of the Mark II / III pistols is not for the faint of heart. I got inside my Mk III to "adjust" the magazine safety, I will never detail strip that thing again. It took both hands and both feet to get it back together right. Fortunately, after adjusting the magazine safety, it takes a few less steps to field strip now.
2/9/2011 3:04:49 PM
I take my MKII pistol apart after about 1000rds of suppressed shooting. It is one of the most difficult/painful things to do.
Luckily I have a spare and can use it as a reference. It is almost to the point were I just want to buy another 22lr suppressor host and not use it anymore.
Who ever designed it should be shot.
Luckily I have a spare and can use it as a reference. It is almost to the point were I just want to buy another 22lr suppressor host and not use it anymore.
Who ever designed it should be shot.
2/9/2011 4:15:07 PM
One of the best gun deals I've made was on a MKII that was so gummed up, it wouldn't fire most of the time.
I took it home, cleaned it up and It's not missed a beat since then.
I took it home, cleaned it up and It's not missed a beat since then.
2/9/2011 7:56:12 PM
Originally Posted By goldeyeslayer:
Hmmmm. I must be the only one on the planet that doesn 't have problems putting one back together. Good friend of mine refuses to take his down.
eta: I know nobody wants to hear this, but the first time I had trouble I had to open the manual and follow it step by step/word for word. Not doing what I knew had to happen, just doing what it said.
Hmmmm. I must be the only one on the planet that doesn 't have problems putting one back together. Good friend of mine refuses to take his down.
eta: I know nobody wants to hear this, but the first time I had trouble I had to open the manual and follow it step by step/word for word. Not doing what I knew had to happen, just doing what it said.
Your not the only one, I have taken my apart probably 50 times, to do various upgrades/cleaning. I have never had a problem with it, including totally disassembling the frame and bolt.
2/11/2011 8:08:06 PM
Originally Posted By Maynard:
One of the best gun deals I've made was on a MKII that was so gummed up, it wouldn't fire most of the time.
I took it home, cleaned it up and It's not missed a beat since then.
One of the best gun deals I've made was on a MKII that was so gummed up, it wouldn't fire most of the time.
I took it home, cleaned it up and It's not missed a beat since then.
Same here!!!
I LOVE them deals.... totally decked out Volquartzen upgrades for $300,,, (the price of the upgrades)
2/15/2011 7:35:16 AM
I've had no problems taking my two Mark II's apart and detail cleaning
. It was more difficult with the Mark III, but just take your time, use the owners manual and a little common sense.
Ruger makes tough, dependable guns. They have never let me down or failed to fire. I can't say that about all gun Mfg, although I would put Glock right up there at the top of the "most dependable" list.
. It was more difficult with the Mark III, but just take your time, use the owners manual and a little common sense.
Ruger makes tough, dependable guns. They have never let me down or failed to fire. I can't say that about all gun Mfg, although I would put Glock right up there at the top of the "most dependable" list.
2/20/2011 6:11:04 PM
I love shooting my Mk II but it is the biggest PITA to clean. You have to hold your mouth just right to get it back together.
2/25/2011 3:16:20 AM
Originally Posted By goldeyeslayer:
Hmmmm. I must be the only one on the planet that doesn 't have problems putting one back together. Good friend of mine refuses to take his down.
eta: I know nobody wants to hear this, but the first time I had trouble I had to open the manual and follow it step by step/word for word. Not doing what I knew had to happen, just doing what it said.
Hmmmm. I must be the only one on the planet that doesn 't have problems putting one back together. Good friend of mine refuses to take his down.
eta: I know nobody wants to hear this, but the first time I had trouble I had to open the manual and follow it step by step/word for word. Not doing what I knew had to happen, just doing what it said.
I just bought an MK III and had to do the same thing. You gotta point that damn thing in all sorts of directions to get it together
2/26/2011 12:21:25 PM
LOL, I chuckle every time I read the Ruger mark 2/3 dissasembly threads. This is one of the simplest mechanical devices I have every worked on. I have never had a problem dissasembling or reassembling any of my Ruger 22s. I completely stripped a 22/45 and replaced every part replaceable, omitted parts I didn't want, and put it all abck together correctly in 15 minutes. If you ever want to know who is short on patience, low in mechanical ability, and probably not able to read and understand simple mechanical instructions, then just read one of these threads.
2/26/2011 1:13:52 PM
Originally Posted By Coy_Greer:
LOL, I chuckle every time I read the Ruger mark 2/3 dissasembly threads. This is one of the simplest mechanical devices I have every worked on. I have never had a problem dissasembling or reassembling any of my Ruger 22s. I completely stripped a 22/45 and replaced every part replaceable, omitted parts I didn't want, and put it all abck together correctly in 15 minutes. If you ever want to know who is short on patience, low in mechanical ability, and probably not able to read and understand simple mechanical instructions, then just read one of these threads.
LOL, I chuckle every time I read the Ruger mark 2/3 dissasembly threads. This is one of the simplest mechanical devices I have every worked on. I have never had a problem dissasembling or reassembling any of my Ruger 22s. I completely stripped a 22/45 and replaced every part replaceable, omitted parts I didn't want, and put it all abck together correctly in 15 minutes. If you ever want to know who is short on patience, low in mechanical ability, and probably not able to read and understand simple mechanical instructions, then just read one of these threads.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooh good for yooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuu!
now, my problem wouldnt have been such a big problem if somehow, that tail end of the spring couldnt mysteriously slide out from under the pin, then hide itself behind the safety so that it looks as if nothing is out of place..............
2/27/2011 9:44:23 AM
I used to always have trouble with both of mine. Friend of mine gave me this link. I still go back and look at it if I run into a problem.
3/1/2011 10:13:54 PM
I dont have a Mark lll yet I am working on it though. I have watched the video that Ruger has many times to get aquainted with it and it looks to me if you follow the directions and take your time the first few times you do it that eventhough it looks like a pain it will just all fall into place.
3/1/2011 10:19:43 PM
OP: read the manual. 
You are doing it wrong.
You are doing it wrong.3/7/2011 6:37:00 PM
I will send you $50 for that POS and you wont have to deal with it ever again.
3/9/2011 2:45:01 PM
I learned that I manipulated my bbl/rec to the grip "too far" and it was a PIA to get the bolt stop to the top. Putting it together without the bolt I found that to be the prob. Couple of light taps to allign everything pulled the MS out and put bolt in pointed pistol up pulled trigger and made sure spur was dangling. Inserted bolt stop on MS group and it slipped right together.
MS= main spring
Check your allignment.
MS= main spring
Check your allignment.
3/13/2011 6:41:11 PM
Wow! Glad you got it together! ... Now about that thing..... last Ruger you'll ever own.... I'll give you $150 Shipped for it.
3/13/2011 7:01:15 PM
Originally Posted By Kskvetski:
Wow! Glad you got it together! ... Now about that thing..... last Ruger you'll ever own.... I'll give you $150 Shipped for it.
Wow! Glad you got it together! ... Now about that thing..... last Ruger you'll ever own.... I'll give you $150 Shipped for it.
$151!
3/15/2011 6:43:14 PM
$155
3/16/2011 2:26:59 AM
Let's keep it tech related please.
Thanks
Thanks
3/19/2011 1:24:03 AM
Originally Posted By builttoughf250:
oooooooooooooooooooooooooh good for yooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuu!
now, my problem wouldnt have been such a big problem if somehow, that tail end of the spring couldnt mysteriously slide out from under the pin, then hide itself behind the safety so that it looks as if nothing is out of place..............
Originally Posted By Coy_Greer:
LOL, I chuckle every time I read the Ruger mark 2/3 dissasembly threads. This is one of the simplest mechanical devices I have every worked on. I have never had a problem dissasembling or reassembling any of my Ruger 22s. I completely stripped a 22/45 and replaced every part replaceable, omitted parts I didn't want, and put it all abck together correctly in 15 minutes. If you ever want to know who is short on patience, low in mechanical ability, and probably not able to read and understand simple mechanical instructions, then just read one of these threads.
LOL, I chuckle every time I read the Ruger mark 2/3 dissasembly threads. This is one of the simplest mechanical devices I have every worked on. I have never had a problem dissasembling or reassembling any of my Ruger 22s. I completely stripped a 22/45 and replaced every part replaceable, omitted parts I didn't want, and put it all abck together correctly in 15 minutes. If you ever want to know who is short on patience, low in mechanical ability, and probably not able to read and understand simple mechanical instructions, then just read one of these threads.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooh good for yooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuu!
now, my problem wouldnt have been such a big problem if somehow, that tail end of the spring couldnt mysteriously slide out from under the pin, then hide itself behind the safety so that it looks as if nothing is out of place..............
I am guessing it was the disconnector/sear or whatever it is called spring...
yes that will cause the problems mentioned.
I took on of my MKIIs as far apart as I could. All pins and springs out and cleaned every nook and cranny. It was fun...and It was fun to put back together. Just take care of detents and springs under pressure.
...and the whole time I forgot to look at a manual i had for another MkII and it still managed to put it together with intentional trial and error.
studying how the parts interacted with each other was fun.
