Who would like a 6-24X 50 side parallax mil dot recticle scope with focus down to 25yrds or less?
I was speaking with my vortex rep yesterday and complaining about the fact that they dont make a scope any more for 22 tactical matches. The old crossfires like mine, which you cant find around any more, is 6-24x50, mil dot, good turrets, and focuses down to 10 yards. The only thing it doesnt have is a side parallax adjustment. Unfortunately the new Crossfire II's dont have that much magnification nor do they come in a mil dot reticle.
I asked him what it would take to get a scope with the following features:
Magnification around 6-24X (like my crossfire)or even 5-20X
Side parallax
Mil dot reticle
Good repeatable turrets
Focus down to AT LEAST 25 yards (crossfires focus down to 10 yards).
with around 75 MOA (or more???) of windage and elevation
In the $200-$300.00 price range. Just like the rest of the Crossfire II line of scopes.
This was his reply:
How big do you think the market would be for something like this- Do you think I could sell 300 qty a year-
Let me know your thoughts-
What do you guys think? Is there enough demand out there to warrant production of a scope like I'm looking for?
For those of you who arent aware, Vortex has a 100% lifetime guarantee on their scopes. If you break it, they replace it. No questions asked.
I love my crossfire scope and with the 100% lifetime guarantee you just cant beat them.
It sounds like if the market will bear 300+ sales per year its possible to get them to start making them again.
Let me know what you think and I'll forward the info to Vortex.
Thanks,
Rodney
That describes the scope I've had in mind for my Savage Mk ll TR. And I'd want one for my custom 10/22 as well.
What would be an approximate price range on such a critter?
Just a question.....but why would you want a Mil-Dot reticle for a .22 rimfire? I understand the desire for Mil-Dots, etc for long range shooting but just don't see a need in the rimfire world. I fully understand the need for closer focus ranges, high power and cross hair options however. Unless you want to use the Mil-Dots for holdover at the ranges you'll be shooting with the .22. But that's not what they're really for.
Originally Posted By BamaInArk:
Just a question.....but why would you want a Mil-Dot reticle for a .22 rimfire? I understand the desire for Mil-Dots, etc for long range shooting but just don't see a need in the rimfire world. I fully understand the need for closer focus ranges, high power and cross hair options however. Unless you want to use the Mil-Dots for holdover at the ranges you'll be shooting with the .22. But that's not what they're really for.
Rocca and I do a lot of 22 precision shooting in Utah and mil dots are a must have in the comps we do.
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By BamaInArk:
Just a question.....but why would you want a Mil-Dot reticle for a .22 rimfire? I understand the desire for Mil-Dots, etc for long range shooting but just don't see a need in the rimfire world. I fully understand the need for closer focus ranges, high power and cross hair options however. Unless you want to use the Mil-Dots for holdover at the ranges you'll be shooting with the .22. But that's not what they're really for.
Rocca and I do a lot of 22 precision shooting in Utah and mil dots are a must have in the comps we do.
Obviously I'm no expert on Mil-Dot scopes especially with rimfire but this is interesting. I will research this more just for knowledge.
After a little searching what about this series of scopes from Hawke? They have a varmint series in 6-24x44 with 1/2 Mil dot reticle. Focus down to 15 yards. I'm thinking the 1/2 Mil Dot is much nicer for rimfire. But what do I know. lol
http://www.hawkeoptics.com/rifle-scopes/varmint-sf.html
SWFA has them listed.
Im not sure what they mean by 1/2" mil dot unless they are saying the dot covers 1/2" at a certain yardage? WAY to big for the competitions I shoot in. We are sometimes shooting at dots that are 1/8" to 3/16" . AND mil dots most certainly ARE meant to be used for hold over in addition to rangeing targets and distances.
ANYWAY, thats not the point of this post. Im not here to discuss what people do and dont like about a scope or what OTHER scopes they like. PLease....please just post if you have an interest in the scope mentioned. I would really appreciate it.
The sole purpose of this post is to find out how much interest there in an another scope (similar to the discontinued crossfire 6-24) from vortex in their Crossfire II line with the features I listed in the original post.
In the $200-300.00 price range. Just like the rest of the Crossfire II's
Doesn't Osprey make something along this line in this price range?

I was going to buy one like you have but I would damn sure buy on like you described ! I was looking at the millett but the mill dot is to fine for my eyes.
Originally Posted By BobCole:
Doesn't Osprey make something along this line in this price range?

Yes but will it maintain zero ? I have heard of them not being able to survive a ride in the truck with out losing zero...
Originally Posted By foreman2000:
Originally Posted By BobCole:
Doesn't Osprey make something along this line in this price range?

Yes but will it maintain zero ? I have heard of them not being able to survive a ride in the truck with out losing zero...
I have several Osprey scopes & they all are working perfectly for me.
How important is the 24x magnification? Primary Arms makes a 4-16x44 scope, side parallax adjustment down to 10 yards, mildot reticle, locking resettable turrets, with 80 moa of internal travel. Seems to have all of your requirements except the 24x magnification. Cost is $160
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_4_16X44_Illuminated_Mil_Dot_Scope_p/pa416x.htm
PLEASE just reply to the original post.
The question is :
Is there enough demand out there to warrant Vortex producinng the scope described
If so post. If not don't.
Thanks
Originally Posted By Rocca:
PLEASE just reply to the original post.
The question is :
Is there enough demand out there to warrant Vortex producinng the scope described
If so post. If not don't.
Thanks
No, there are already products out there now that fill this niche.
As much as I'd love to see the scope you describe be produced, I don't think there is enough of a market for it. Those of us who build .22 trainers or tactical .22's would like that scope but often the .22 is built with budget in mind and when there are a handful of scopes with similar specs for $150-$225 it's tough to jump in at the higher end of that. I have a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 on my MKII Tacticool-SR, would love to have a similar optic that was parallax free at 25yds, and see Vortex as some of the best valued optics out there considering the build quality, features, and warranty. I see those factors as a big plus if Vortex were to make the described optic but from a business standpoint, it's tough to enter at the higher end of a market segment.