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Mosin Nagants...please excuse if this has been answered before?
3/12/2012 10:55:23 AM
I have had several of these guns at one point or time and have never taken the time to buy ammo, take it out
to the range, and shoot one. I see people buying these things all the time and like I mentioned above, I come into several
and usually trade them out, furthermore I've never lost a dime on one. Are they worth the time, are the fun to shoot?
Should I grab one and keep it? Thanks to everyone who responds.
to the range, and shoot one. I see people buying these things all the time and like I mentioned above, I come into several
and usually trade them out, furthermore I've never lost a dime on one. Are they worth the time, are the fun to shoot?
Should I grab one and keep it? Thanks to everyone who responds.
3/12/2012 10:57:14 AM
Originally Posted By Waywar:
I have had several of these guns at one point or time and have never taken the time to buy ammo, take it out
to the range, and shoot one. I see people buying these things all the time and like I mentioned above, I come into several
and usually trade them out, furthermore I've never lost a dime on one. Are they worth the time, are the fun to shoot?
Should I grab one and keep it? Thanks to everyone who responds.
I have had several of these guns at one point or time and have never taken the time to buy ammo, take it out
to the range, and shoot one. I see people buying these things all the time and like I mentioned above, I come into several
and usually trade them out, furthermore I've never lost a dime on one. Are they worth the time, are the fun to shoot?
Should I grab one and keep it? Thanks to everyone who responds.
I like them. Cheap to shoot, pretty accurate, make a good club or boat oar in emergency situations....
3/12/2012 10:59:00 AM
Doesn't hurt to have one. Nifty piece of history.
Their actions are a little clunky, and they have a tendency to "stick" with surplus ammo and a dirty chamber. They are just an interesting gun that was built for one thing only, and is not really catering the finer things of bolt action guns. They were made to be operated by a scared Russian solider serving the motherland, go bang everytime, need minimal cleaning, and be tough enough to last.
Their actions are a little clunky, and they have a tendency to "stick" with surplus ammo and a dirty chamber. They are just an interesting gun that was built for one thing only, and is not really catering the finer things of bolt action guns. They were made to be operated by a scared Russian solider serving the motherland, go bang everytime, need minimal cleaning, and be tough enough to last.
3/12/2012 11:09:15 AM
They are awesome guns. I personally have the M44 still trying to find a good grain weight for it (147 grains scatter and the 200 gr drop like 6-8 inches at 100 yards but group like 2 inches). MY buddy has two mosin 91/30 and at 200 yard can get bout a 3 inch oval group not bad for irons. Its Always good to have a simple gun for Z-day
3/12/2012 11:34:59 AM
It is definitely worthwhile to pick up a Mosin or three now while the prices still haven't gotten ridiculous and hold onto at least one for the long term. They are actually surprisingly good shooters for as crude as they seem at first glance. Like most Russian military surplus, they are simple, rugged and reliable. They were designed to be manufactured, operated and maintained by under-equipped and uneducated peasants.
I'd also recommend putting back a couple of cases of milsurp ammo before it is too late.
I'd also recommend putting back a couple of cases of milsurp ammo before it is too late.
3/12/2012 12:02:46 PM
I hear ya on the ammo...been steadily purchasing bargains for last the year.
Originally Posted By SoftwareJanitor:
It is definitely worthwhile to pick up a Mosin or three now while the prices still haven't gotten ridiculous and hold onto at least one for the long term. They are actually surprisingly good shooters for as crude as they seem at first glance. Like most Russian military surplus, they are simple, rugged and reliable. They were designed to be manufactured, operated and maintained by under-equipped and uneducated peasants.
I'd also recommend putting back a couple of cases of milsurp ammo before it is too late.
It is definitely worthwhile to pick up a Mosin or three now while the prices still haven't gotten ridiculous and hold onto at least one for the long term. They are actually surprisingly good shooters for as crude as they seem at first glance. Like most Russian military surplus, they are simple, rugged and reliable. They were designed to be manufactured, operated and maintained by under-equipped and uneducated peasants.
I'd also recommend putting back a couple of cases of milsurp ammo before it is too late.
3/12/2012 12:04:39 PM
I have a guy wanting to trade me three guns for a custom upper...one of the cheaper ones is a M44. It's a pretty
fair offer just wanted more info on them.
fair offer just wanted more info on them.
Originally Posted By clownbear69:
They are awesome guns. I personally have the M44 still trying to find a good grain weight for it (147 grains scatter and the 200 gr drop like 6-8 inches at 100 yards but group like 2 inches). MY buddy has two mosin 91/30 and at 200 yard can get bout a 3 inch oval group not bad for irons. Its Always good to have a simple gun for Z-day
They are awesome guns. I personally have the M44 still trying to find a good grain weight for it (147 grains scatter and the 200 gr drop like 6-8 inches at 100 yards but group like 2 inches). MY buddy has two mosin 91/30 and at 200 yard can get bout a 3 inch oval group not bad for irons. Its Always good to have a simple gun for Z-day
3/12/2012 12:06:56 PM
M44's are worth 2-3x are much as the longer 91/30's
3/12/2012 12:13:05 PM
Thanks, I had some idea of it's worth but wasn't sure.
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
M44's are worth 2-3x are much as the longer 91/30's
M44's are worth 2-3x are much as the longer 91/30's
3/12/2012 12:31:50 PM
They may not be as pretty as a Garand or Karabiner but for a fraction of the price and a satisfying boom every pull of the trigger I think they're money well spent.
3/13/2012 10:28:37 PM
Everyone should have 1 or two, then six or seven...... They kind of grow on you. For the price, can't beat them. The M44's are worth three times the value of the 91/30's and going up as I write.
3/14/2012 12:56:48 AM
If I come across an m38 for less than $150 I would snag it. Last one I saw at a gun show a few weeks ago I traded to a friend who had an m44 but missed his old m38. I was in $140, took the sling for my m38, and gave him the rifle for a case of federal 5.56.
That being said, I have no interest in the full length versions, other than spare parts.
That being said, I have no interest in the full length versions, other than spare parts.
3/14/2012 10:21:34 AM
I love Mosins. There are so many types and styles that you can't get bored with them and there is always another variation that you want. I have seven of them right now and there is at least that many more that I want.
There are M38s that are light and handy, kick like a mule, and blow a MASSIVE fireball, there are 91/30s to clean up, 91/30 ex-sniper to re-sniper, exquisite quality Finnish variants capable of extreme accuracy, .22LR trainers, 7.92 Mauser conversions, versions ranging from 1891 to the 1950s means a 60 year long production span...it never ends, and each one has its own personality, not only hanging on the wall, but at the range.
There are M38s that are light and handy, kick like a mule, and blow a MASSIVE fireball, there are 91/30s to clean up, 91/30 ex-sniper to re-sniper, exquisite quality Finnish variants capable of extreme accuracy, .22LR trainers, 7.92 Mauser conversions, versions ranging from 1891 to the 1950s means a 60 year long production span...it never ends, and each one has its own personality, not only hanging on the wall, but at the range.
3/15/2012 8:48:52 PM
I got a Mosin today at the fun shop for free, someone brought it in as a trade and my guy did'nt want it. Whom ever owned it has been watching too many youtube videos. Its a 1938 Izzy round, cut to 22" barrel length, in a syn. sporter stock, with a downturned bolt handle. Hate to see it butchered like that but for free I'm not bitching.
3/18/2012 12:53:25 PM
Thanks to everyone! I picked up a Soviet M44 Mosin Nagant ~ all numbers matching yesterday at a gun show. What do you think?
Thanks for all the input, gonna shoot the hell out of this one!
Thanks for all the input, gonna shoot the hell out of this one!
4/21/2012 2:51:04 PM
That thing is beautiful.
Makes the Mosin that I have look like the extreme POS that it is.
Nice score, hopefully it didn't cost you too much.
Makes the Mosin that I have look like the extreme POS that it is.
Nice score, hopefully it didn't cost you too much.
4/21/2012 7:22:24 PM
Mosins do tend to grow on you. I started with a 91/30 and soon added a Polish M44. Not long after that I started looking for a Sako M39 and soon added two to my collection. Then I found a deal on a Finn M91 VKT that is in fantastic shape. Next came a T53 I got for 37 bucks.
The price for them has gone up a lot since buying them and I'm glad I got in on them early on. Ammo prices for them has increased a lot also, but is still fairly cheap. Glad I stocked up a long time ago.
Fun guns to shoot with a lot of history behind them, shooting them always brings a smile to my face and sometimes a bruise on my shoulder!
The price for them has gone up a lot since buying them and I'm glad I got in on them early on. Ammo prices for them has increased a lot also, but is still fairly cheap. Glad I stocked up a long time ago.
Fun guns to shoot with a lot of history behind them, shooting them always brings a smile to my face and sometimes a bruise on my shoulder!
4/22/2012 11:05:52 AM
I'll get flogged for this but the only attractive aspect to a MN is the price vs. all the other C&R stuff.
10 years ago when mausers, k31's and just about every other C&R was still around and somewhat cheap, no one gave two you know what's about MN's.
Now it's really the only viable C&R option for C&R beginners or people who like quantity over quality in their safe's, all the other C&R's are dried up and very expensive.
It's just like with the SKS, as soon as it became expensive and not super cheap anymore, the love and buzz surrounding them has tampered off quote a bit and is reserved for those who have an affinity for that specific rifle.
Again, if you like cheap and quantity over quality the MN is right up your alley.
10 years ago when mausers, k31's and just about every other C&R was still around and somewhat cheap, no one gave two you know what's about MN's.
Now it's really the only viable C&R option for C&R beginners or people who like quantity over quality in their safe's, all the other C&R's are dried up and very expensive.
It's just like with the SKS, as soon as it became expensive and not super cheap anymore, the love and buzz surrounding them has tampered off quote a bit and is reserved for those who have an affinity for that specific rifle.
Again, if you like cheap and quantity over quality the MN is right up your alley.
4/22/2012 11:35:19 AM
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
I'll get flogged for this but the only attractive aspect to a MN is the price vs. all the other C&R stuff.
10 years ago when mausers, k31's and just about every other C&R was still around and somewhat cheap, no one gave two you know what's about MN's.
Now it's really the only viable C&R option for C&R beginners or people who like quantity over quality in their safe's, all the other C&R's are dried up and very expensive.
It's just like with the SKS, as soon as it became expensive and not super cheap anymore, the love and buzz surrounding them has tampered off quote a bit and is reserved for those who have an affinity for that specific rifle.
Again, if you like cheap and quantity over quality the MN is right up your alley.
I'll get flogged for this but the only attractive aspect to a MN is the price vs. all the other C&R stuff.
10 years ago when mausers, k31's and just about every other C&R was still around and somewhat cheap, no one gave two you know what's about MN's.
Now it's really the only viable C&R option for C&R beginners or people who like quantity over quality in their safe's, all the other C&R's are dried up and very expensive.
It's just like with the SKS, as soon as it became expensive and not super cheap anymore, the love and buzz surrounding them has tampered off quote a bit and is reserved for those who have an affinity for that specific rifle.
Again, if you like cheap and quantity over quality the MN is right up your alley.
Simo Häyhä is not impressed with your opinion...
4/22/2012 9:50:57 PM
Love the Mosin Family. M44 is probably my favorite though. Can't beat them for value given the price, cost of ammo and even accuracy. only con would be that damned cosmoline. 
4/22/2012 10:37:32 PM
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
I'll get flogged for this but the only attractive aspect to a MN is the price vs. all the other C&R stuff.
10 years ago when mausers, k31's and just about every other C&R was still around and somewhat cheap, no one gave two you know what's about MN's.
Now it's really the only viable C&R option for C&R beginners or people who like quantity over quality in their safe's, all the other C&R's are dried up and very expensive.
It's just like with the SKS, as soon as it became expensive and not super cheap anymore, the love and buzz surrounding them has tampered off quote a bit and is reserved for those who have an affinity for that specific rifle.
Again, if you like cheap and quantity over quality the MN is right up your alley.
I'll get flogged for this but the only attractive aspect to a MN is the price vs. all the other C&R stuff.
10 years ago when mausers, k31's and just about every other C&R was still around and somewhat cheap, no one gave two you know what's about MN's.
Now it's really the only viable C&R option for C&R beginners or people who like quantity over quality in their safe's, all the other C&R's are dried up and very expensive.
It's just like with the SKS, as soon as it became expensive and not super cheap anymore, the love and buzz surrounding them has tampered off quote a bit and is reserved for those who have an affinity for that specific rifle.
Again, if you like cheap and quantity over quality the MN is right up your alley.
I honestly have a hard time seeing them "die off" THere is most likely millions still burried in cosmoline somewhere. And 7.62x54r isn't going anywhere. When 8mm mauser, 30-06 and other surplus calibers have become expensive.
4/23/2012 5:56:37 AM
i've got 3.
a 91/30, a 91/59 and a 1943 m44.
going to be selling the 91/59 and m44.
the 91/30, i'm going to hang on to for the occasional take out, but frankly, i really don't like shooting them and prefer the k98's i have instead. would rather use the cash to get more 8mm surplu before it's no longer available.
a 91/30, a 91/59 and a 1943 m44.
going to be selling the 91/59 and m44.
the 91/30, i'm going to hang on to for the occasional take out, but frankly, i really don't like shooting them and prefer the k98's i have instead. would rather use the cash to get more 8mm surplu before it's no longer available.
4/23/2012 6:13:47 AM
Ive got 3, two M44's and a 91/30. THe 91/30 was my first gun I ever bought years ago. Mosins are a blast to shoot, cheap as hell and tough. The only drawback to my 3 is that they only run on the copper washed surplus ammo. Any of the new russian stuff sticks horribly in my 3. Call me wierd, but as much as I love shooting them, standing on the line with other m44's is great, the muzzle blast off of them is fantastic.
Nice M44 btw.
Nice M44 btw.
4/23/2012 6:39:04 AM
To win, you need a Finn, mosin that is. The Finnish mosins are much more accurate than the Soviets.
They can also be worth quite a bit more. The currently available model 39 represents the ultimate mosin.
They can also be worth quite a bit more. The currently available model 39 represents the ultimate mosin.
4/23/2012 6:13:38 PM
Originally Posted By ksstargazer:
To win, you need a Finn, mosin that is. The Finnish mosins are much more accurate than the Soviets.
They can also be worth quite a bit more. The currently available model 39 represents the ultimate mosin.
To win, you need a Finn, mosin that is. The Finnish mosins are much more accurate than the Soviets.
They can also be worth quite a bit more. The currently available model 39 represents the ultimate mosin.
Simo Häyhä is positively impressed with your opinion.
4/23/2012 7:46:44 PM
I have 3 M44s, a 1943 Russky and 2 Polish M44s from 55/56. I love the fireballs. Sold 2 1891s recently, both Russky Finn reworks. Cheap to shoot, and the Polish ones are very nice compared to Russian mfg ones. I've taken some deer with them. And a rabid fox.
4/23/2012 10:02:56 PM
I've bought about 20 in the past year
I think they're great. So many models and years, they're a blast to collect IMO and they're cheap compared to other milsurps.
I think they're great. So many models and years, they're a blast to collect IMO and they're cheap compared to other milsurps.
4/25/2012 5:23:37 PM
they are a blast to shoot and cheap. it's a $100 30-06 get one and keep it you wont regret it.
