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What is wrong with my AAC M4-2000 suppressor's coating and engravings? Will AAC fix it?
5/14/2012 3:39:46 AM
First off, I know this is not a problem with how the suppressor works, but with about $1200 put into this suppressor after the tax stamp, I expect it to all be perfect...even the coating and engravings on it. This is unacceptable to me for $1200 and a 6 month wait.
I bought this M4-2000 from www.silencershop.com back in November, and just took possession of it. It is a very reputable shop and I trust the owner.
This brand new AAC M4-2000 suppressor looks like it had the original coating blasted off, then a new flatter and less black coating applied to it. The engraving on it is also very shallow, and in some places, it is completely gone. The finish on it also has no semi gloss look to it like the finish normally looks like on AAC suppressors. Since this suppressor is brand new which is very obvious if you look inside of it, I assume this is a mistake from the factory. Has anyone worked with AAC with fixing problems like this? I would like the exgravings on it to be made correct and depp, as well as have the correct coating applied to it.
I have included pictures to show you guys the engravings and finish on it compared to my SDN-6 suppressor. It is very obivous in person, but these pictures kind of show what I am talking about.
I did send an e-mail to AAC as well, but am curious to hear your opinions.
I bought this M4-2000 from www.silencershop.com back in November, and just took possession of it. It is a very reputable shop and I trust the owner.
This brand new AAC M4-2000 suppressor looks like it had the original coating blasted off, then a new flatter and less black coating applied to it. The engraving on it is also very shallow, and in some places, it is completely gone. The finish on it also has no semi gloss look to it like the finish normally looks like on AAC suppressors. Since this suppressor is brand new which is very obvious if you look inside of it, I assume this is a mistake from the factory. Has anyone worked with AAC with fixing problems like this? I would like the exgravings on it to be made correct and depp, as well as have the correct coating applied to it.
I have included pictures to show you guys the engravings and finish on it compared to my SDN-6 suppressor. It is very obivous in person, but these pictures kind of show what I am talking about.
I did send an e-mail to AAC as well, but am curious to hear your opinions.
5/14/2012 4:23:34 AM
I ups give them a call just to be on the safe side.
Ps. I am sooooooo jelous.
Ps. I am sooooooo jelous.
5/14/2012 6:22:07 AM
that last photo the hole looks off
5/14/2012 10:56:11 AM
Originally Posted By dmtsc:
that last photo the hole looks off
that last photo the hole looks off
I think its the camera angle. OP, from your pics, the finish wouldn't bother me that much (although it is different than the SDN-6) but the stampings are lighter than I would consider acceptable. Some of them you can't even read and that sucks after all the wait time. I hope AAC makes you happy.
Edit: for spelling
Edit2: After looking at your pics again, I'd be willing to bet something went wrong in the original finish application and it had to be removed and re-done. This is what caused the engravings to be so shallow.
5/14/2012 11:15:46 AM
FWIW, I've seen a few different M4-2000s and the finish of the newer ones was different from the older ones. I believe the older ones had more of a glossy finish and the newer or refinished ones were more matte. I had a AAC can worked on for a warranty issue and it was refinshed to a more matte like black.
I'm not sure about the engravings.
I'm not sure about the engravings.
5/14/2012 11:30:17 AM
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
5/14/2012 11:30:37 AM
Originally Posted By dmtsc:
that last photo the hole looks off
that last photo the hole looks off
Camera angle. That would be off A LOT.
5/14/2012 12:04:00 PM
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
5/14/2012 1:15:59 PM
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
5/14/2012 1:31:27 PM
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
I have never had a problem getting a real live person on the phone at AAC.
5/14/2012 3:18:25 PM
That's very interesting, because I've also had no problem getting in contact with AAC in the past. I'm starting to think that other thread is just AAC-bashing, but since I haven't been standing next to the guy when he made the phone calls, it's impossible to say that for sure. Just very interesting that he's the only one who has problems contacting them.
Thread derailment aside, I've noticed that my SDN-6 has a much nicer finish than the M4-2000s and Rangers I've seen. The finish on yours wouldn't bother me at all, but it's obviously not as nice as your N-6.
Thread derailment aside, I've noticed that my SDN-6 has a much nicer finish than the M4-2000s and Rangers I've seen. The finish on yours wouldn't bother me at all, but it's obviously not as nice as your N-6.
5/14/2012 3:24:49 PM
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
5/14/2012 3:44:57 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
That's what I was thinking, after looking at it again.
I would not bother sending it in.
5/14/2012 4:06:33 PM
Originally Posted By Dog1:
That's what I was thinking, after looking at it again.
I would not bother sending it in.
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
That's what I was thinking, after looking at it again.
I would not bother sending it in.
I wouldn't either.
Then again, I've put about 700rds through my SDN6 since getting it approved a few weeks ago and my can is scratched up and stuff. Just doesn't bother me.
I can understand that some folks like to keep their stuff nice, though.
5/14/2012 5:04:47 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I was thinking the same thing. Mine gets thrown around hits rocks after it falls off trees I prop the gun on. The finish on my cans doesnt seem to stay prestine for very long anyway.
5/14/2012 5:07:34 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I wouldn't either.
Then again, I've put about 700rds through my SDN6 since getting it approved a few weeks ago and my can is scratched up and stuff. Just doesn't bother me.
I can understand that some folks like to keep their stuff nice, though.
Originally Posted By Dog1:
That's what I was thinking, after looking at it again.
I would not bother sending it in.
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
That's what I was thinking, after looking at it again.
I would not bother sending it in.
I wouldn't either.
Then again, I've put about 700rds through my SDN6 since getting it approved a few weeks ago and my can is scratched up and stuff. Just doesn't bother me.
I can understand that some folks like to keep their stuff nice, though.
I figure this. That is why they make Norrell's Molyresin...
5/14/2012 5:50:47 PM
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon. I can't believe anyone would even consider sending that back.
5/14/2012 6:40:56 PM
Wouldnt bother me. Im more bothered by the price you paid...
5/14/2012 7:52:22 PM
Originally Posted By Dog1:
I have never had a problem getting a real live person on the phone at AAC.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
I have never had a problem getting a real live person on the phone at AAC.
Actually, AAC has been hard to get ahold of for the last couple of months; but, they are getting that resolved. Going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those recent complaints start to go away now.
Originally Posted By David_4x4:
Wouldnt bother me. Im more bothered by the price you paid...
Wouldnt bother me. Im more bothered by the price you paid...
I'll chime in that he didn't pay $1200 for the actual suppressor. He's adding the cost of the suppressor + mount + sales tax + tax stamp.
5/14/2012 8:14:02 PM
seriously?
5/14/2012 8:28:45 PM
Mine looks just like that, just shoot the damn thing... 
5/14/2012 8:40:14 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
This, and their customer service has always been A++ for me.
5/14/2012 8:44:39 PM
Nothing wrong with can, they use different finishes.
Now this, is a problem:
And it was fixed for free.
Now this, is a problem:
And it was fixed for free.
5/14/2012 10:44:06 PM
To the guys saying "I wouldn't send it back. It'll just get used." That is correct, however I just like my things to be nice and I like the defects on things that I own to be caused by myself and no one else, especially not from a factory. If you were to buy a new car, and the paint on it was messed up, but it drove fine, would you just say "Oh well, it'll get like that eventually as I drive it anyways."? I don't think so.
5/14/2012 11:06:44 PM
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
To the guys saying "I wouldn't send it back. It'll just get used." That is correct, however I just like my things to be nice and I like the defects on things that I own to be caused by myself and no one else, especially not from a factory. If you were to buy a new car, and the paint on it was messed up, but it drove fine, would you just say "Oh well, it'll get like that eventually as I drive it anyways."? I don't think so.
To the guys saying "I wouldn't send it back. It'll just get used." That is correct, however I just like my things to be nice and I like the defects on things that I own to be caused by myself and no one else, especially not from a factory. If you were to buy a new car, and the paint on it was messed up, but it drove fine, would you just say "Oh well, it'll get like that eventually as I drive it anyways."? I don't think so.
I don't use my cars like I use my suppressors, nor did my suppressor cost $20,000.
If the car was going to be used the same way my cans are used, then no, I wouldn't have a problem.
5/14/2012 11:42:40 PM
Originally Posted By eodinert:
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon.
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon.
Thats what happend to mine when I went to take it off and material from my shooting glove melted on it. Oh well it still functions fine and looks rugged now.
5/15/2012 12:04:36 AM
engraved on separate lines? Mil vs. Dist? They probably produce a $hitload of suppressors, Not saying your concern is no issue. I have a SDN6 that has been tied up in the process about 2 miles from my office. Any day now I can check mine out also,
5/15/2012 11:54:54 AM
Originally Posted By eodinert:
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon. I can't believe anyone would even consider sending that back.
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon. I can't believe anyone would even consider sending that back.
LOL, so true! It' a fact you don't know until you know. I used to want my can to look perfect, but things that get to 1000 degrees have a hard time staying in pristine condition.
5/15/2012 12:44:53 PM
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
To the guys saying "I wouldn't send it back. It'll just get used." That is correct, however I just like my things to be nice and I like the defects on things that I own to be caused by myself and no one else, especially not from a factory. If you were to buy a new car, and the paint on it was messed up, but it drove fine, would you just say "Oh well, it'll get like that eventually as I drive it anyways."? I don't think so.
To the guys saying "I wouldn't send it back. It'll just get used." That is correct, however I just like my things to be nice and I like the defects on things that I own to be caused by myself and no one else, especially not from a factory. If you were to buy a new car, and the paint on it was messed up, but it drove fine, would you just say "Oh well, it'll get like that eventually as I drive it anyways."? I don't think so.
As already mentioned, there are no defects in that can, as far as I can see.
AAC has used a variety of different finishes, and they do not all look the same. Take the can back to your dealer and compare it to similar cans in that SN range and you will see they are the same.
5/15/2012 10:48:43 PM
Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
LOL, so true! It' a fact you don't know until you know. I used to want my can to look perfect, but things that get to 1000 degrees have a hard time staying in pristine condition.
Originally Posted By eodinert:
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon. I can't believe anyone would even consider sending that back.
If you actually use that thing, the paint will be burnt off and it will be covered with melted nylon. I can't believe anyone would even consider sending that back.
LOL, so true! It' a fact you don't know until you know. I used to want my can to look perfect, but things that get to 1000 degrees have a hard time staying in pristine condition.
If the paint hasn't been cooked off you aren't using it enough.
5/16/2012 9:28:14 AM
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Thats why I read every post in this! Thats crazy! Im getting more and more impatient with this crap from AAC.. What number did you call?
5/16/2012 9:29:49 AM
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
5/16/2012 2:33:10 PM
You should see my Element.
It has about 25% of it's entire finish missing.
I've cleaned it twice now.
Still works like a champ tho!
It has about 25% of it's entire finish missing.
I've cleaned it twice now.
Still works like a champ tho!
5/16/2012 4:40:57 PM
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
5/16/2012 4:54:37 PM
Originally Posted By ds3_09:
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
5/16/2012 7:24:18 PM
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
You should see my Element.
It has about 25% of it's entire finish missing.
I've cleaned it twice now.
Still works like a champ tho!
You should see my Element.
It has about 25% of it's entire finish missing.
I've cleaned it twice now.
Still works like a champ tho!
The finish on my Element seemed very weak from day one, but it works very well.
5/16/2012 8:43:06 PM
Originally Posted By ds3_09:
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
Really?
I was PIG hunting.
Read up.
"Thank you for your question about the legality of hunting non-game animals in Oklahoma with a noise suppressed firearm. The Director has forwarded your question to me for a response.
Title 29 of the State Wildlife Code, section 5-201, Means of taking wildlife-Exceptions-Fines and punishments, states in paragraph A. Except as otherwise provided for in this section, no person may utilize at any time, for the purpose of killing or capturing any game mammal, game bird or nongame bird, the following means:
1. Any trap, net, snare, cage, pitfall, baited hook or similar device;
2. Any drug, poison, narcotic, explosive or similar substance;
3. Any swivel or punt gun of greater caliber than ten(10) guage;
4. Any device which generates electricity; or
5. Any device which noticeably suppresses noise from a firearm, commonly known as a silencer
The definition of a “game mammal”, according to Title 29, is “any mammalian species normally sought after by sportsmen and protected by this Code, or any part of such animal”.
The definition of a predatory mammal is “any mammal which preys upon another mammal or bird for food, and includes only coyote and wolf”. Therefore, with a coyote being a predatory mammal and not a game mammal, they would be legal for an individual to hunt using a suppressed or silenced firearm.
Our Agency does not consider the feral hog to be a wildlife species, thereby making it also legal to hunt using a suppressed or silenced firearm. Please familiarize yourself with the regulations regarding the hunting of feral swine and coyote during antelope, bear, deer and elk firearm seasons.
This explanation, of course assumes you possess the necessary permits to own a suppressor.
Thank you again for contacting us with your question regarding hunting in Oklahoma with a suppressed firearm.
Sincerely,
Robert Fleenor
Acting Chief, Law Enforcement Division
Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation "
Sorry for the derail. Back to topic one more time..
5/16/2012 8:52:26 PM
Originally Posted By glk34:
Really?
I was PIG hunting.
Read up.
"Thank you for your question about the legality of hunting non-game animals in Oklahoma with a noise suppressed firearm. The Director has forwarded your question to me for a response.
Title 29 of the State Wildlife Code, section 5-201, Means of taking wildlife-Exceptions-Fines and punishments, states in paragraph A. Except as otherwise provided for in this section, no person may utilize at any time, for the purpose of killing or capturing any game mammal, game bird or nongame bird, the following means:
1. Any trap, net, snare, cage, pitfall, baited hook or similar device;
2. Any drug, poison, narcotic, explosive or similar substance;
3. Any swivel or punt gun of greater caliber than ten(10) guage;
4. Any device which generates electricity; or
5. Any device which noticeably suppresses noise from a firearm, commonly known as a silencer
The definition of a “game mammal”, according to Title 29, is “any mammalian species normally sought after by sportsmen and protected by this Code, or any part of such animal”.
The definition of a predatory mammal is “any mammal which preys upon another mammal or bird for food, and includes only coyote and wolf”. Therefore, with a coyote being a predatory mammal and not a game mammal, they would be legal for an individual to hunt using a suppressed or silenced firearm.
Our Agency does not consider the feral hog to be a wildlife species, thereby making it also legal to hunt using a suppressed or silenced firearm. Please familiarize yourself with the regulations regarding the hunting of feral swine and coyote during antelope, bear, deer and elk firearm seasons.
This explanation, of course assumes you possess the necessary permits to own a suppressor.
Thank you again for contacting us with your question regarding hunting in Oklahoma with a suppressed firearm.
Sincerely,
Robert Fleenor
Acting Chief, Law Enforcement Division
Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation "
Sorry for the derail. Back to topic one more time..
Originally Posted By ds3_09:
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
It is illegal to hunt with a suppressor in Oklahoma.
Really?
I was PIG hunting.
Read up.
"Thank you for your question about the legality of hunting non-game animals in Oklahoma with a noise suppressed firearm. The Director has forwarded your question to me for a response.
Title 29 of the State Wildlife Code, section 5-201, Means of taking wildlife-Exceptions-Fines and punishments, states in paragraph A. Except as otherwise provided for in this section, no person may utilize at any time, for the purpose of killing or capturing any game mammal, game bird or nongame bird, the following means:
1. Any trap, net, snare, cage, pitfall, baited hook or similar device;
2. Any drug, poison, narcotic, explosive or similar substance;
3. Any swivel or punt gun of greater caliber than ten(10) guage;
4. Any device which generates electricity; or
5. Any device which noticeably suppresses noise from a firearm, commonly known as a silencer
The definition of a “game mammal”, according to Title 29, is “any mammalian species normally sought after by sportsmen and protected by this Code, or any part of such animal”.
The definition of a predatory mammal is “any mammal which preys upon another mammal or bird for food, and includes only coyote and wolf”. Therefore, with a coyote being a predatory mammal and not a game mammal, they would be legal for an individual to hunt using a suppressed or silenced firearm.
Our Agency does not consider the feral hog to be a wildlife species, thereby making it also legal to hunt using a suppressed or silenced firearm. Please familiarize yourself with the regulations regarding the hunting of feral swine and coyote during antelope, bear, deer and elk firearm seasons.
This explanation, of course assumes you possess the necessary permits to own a suppressor.
Thank you again for contacting us with your question regarding hunting in Oklahoma with a suppressed firearm.
Sincerely,
Robert Fleenor
Acting Chief, Law Enforcement Division
Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation "
Sorry for the derail. Back to topic one more time..
That's cool for some reason I didn't think we could use suppressors for any hunting but I was wrong.
5/16/2012 9:28:01 PM
The guide I hunted with told me that they were working on trying to get Night Vision legal for pigs. I hope that goes through. Texas hunting is awesome with NV and Can on.
5/17/2012 12:09:15 AM
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Ummm.....I'm sorry man, but I called again today, and talked to someone just like every other time I've called.....
5/17/2012 1:50:50 AM
To be honest guys, you all are right. None of my suppressors look perfect after all of the heat. I'll just keep it as is.
5/17/2012 5:38:00 AM
do a few mag dumps and Full Auto fire and it's going to look like mine with that odd shaped spot on it
5/17/2012 9:19:41 AM
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
Ummm.....I'm sorry man, but I called again today, and talked to someone just like every other time I've called.....
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Ummm.....I'm sorry man, but I called again today, and talked to someone just like every other time I've called.....
I called yesterday and got the stupid recording again. I am just calling the number listed on their site.
5/17/2012 4:15:27 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
I can't say that would be bother me at all.
Me neither. I'd guess that the tube OD is on the bottom side of tolerance so when it went to stamping things came out light.
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5/17/2012 5:34:40 PM
Originally Posted By glk34:
I called yesterday and got the stupid recording again. I am just calling the number listed on their site.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
Ummm.....I'm sorry man, but I called again today, and talked to someone just like every other time I've called.....
Originally Posted By glk34:
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
I spoke with Mike on the phone just now, and he said to mail it back. Turn around should be 2-3 weeks. Awesome.
That's incredible. Supposedly "glk34" has been trying to get in contact with ANYONE at AAC for a month (according to his thread on this same page) and hasn't been able to, but you called one day and got Mers? Would you mind saying what number you called?
He's not trying very hard. I've always just called the number on their website. Spoken to someone everytime I've called.
Bullshit buddy! I call every day. I emailed several times and I even IMed him on this site. Dont tell me im not trying very hard. AAC is not responding to SHIT!
My thread isnt AAC bashing. If anyone has read it I stated That I REALLY LIKE my 7.62 sd and AAC but the customer support and service has been shit.
Back on topic.. The finish wouldnt bother me at all. I have krylon on mine and have beat the brush with it while deer and pig hunting. I never even cleaned the mud off the side of it from my last Oklahoma pig hunt.
Ummm.....I'm sorry man, but I called again today, and talked to someone just like every other time I've called.....
I called yesterday and got the stupid recording again. I am just calling the number listed on their site.
That's weird. I'm sorry you are having a hard time reaching them.
5/18/2012 3:18:46 AM
Got through fine today after they got back from their meeting at 12:30...not sure what to tell you.
CMS
CMS
5/18/2012 9:07:11 AM
It's starting to smell more like a troll, honestly.
5/18/2012 10:31:03 AM
I literally called Wednesday at about 2pm, Eastern time. First thing I did as soon as I got the automated system was hit "3" on my keypad for Tech Support. I got put on hold for maybe a maximum of 5 minutes and then got put on the line with a gentleman by the name of Brent, who got me taken care off in about 3 minutes. I'm in the process of trying to get my M4-2000 sent in to get a new latch put in. I had an RMA less than an hour after I sent my first email.
OP either A.) you aren't trying very hard. B.) you just have shitty luck, or C.) you're calling the wrong line, or doing something wrong. Now, this isn't a personal attack, so don't go flipping your shit and getting your panties wadded. I'm just saying that here recently especially, AACs customer service has been pretty good. I know that in the past, it's been shitty, lackluster at BEST, but these days, as long as you're calling during business hours, you should get somebody on the horn. If you haven't gotten anybody on the phone, try emailing Brent@advanced-armament.com
Explain the situation, and detail your issues. The dude is squared away and will get your shit taken care of.
OP either A.) you aren't trying very hard. B.) you just have shitty luck, or C.) you're calling the wrong line, or doing something wrong. Now, this isn't a personal attack, so don't go flipping your shit and getting your panties wadded. I'm just saying that here recently especially, AACs customer service has been pretty good. I know that in the past, it's been shitty, lackluster at BEST, but these days, as long as you're calling during business hours, you should get somebody on the horn. If you haven't gotten anybody on the phone, try emailing Brent@advanced-armament.com
Explain the situation, and detail your issues. The dude is squared away and will get your shit taken care of.
5/18/2012 12:48:22 PM
OP isn't having CS issues, it's another guy.
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5/19/2012 12:49:26 AM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
It's starting to smell more like a troll, honestly.
It's starting to smell more like a troll, honestly.
I hope you arent talking about me.
I will try again on monday. And I will try emailing brent. Thanks for the email addy.
5/19/2012 9:55:38 AM
Originally Posted By glk34:
I hope you arent talking about me.
I will try again on monday. And I will try emailing brent. Thanks for the email addy.
Originally Posted By andrasik:
It's starting to smell more like a troll, honestly.
It's starting to smell more like a troll, honestly.
I hope you arent talking about me.
I will try again on monday. And I will try emailing brent. Thanks for the email addy.
I am.
It's beginning to be the only logical explanation.
