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 Does any one size/deprime on a sinlge stage?
BigGunz50  [Member]
5/30/2012 6:12:24 PM
I have a Dillon 550b and i am trying to figure out the sequence for the whole reloading process of .223. Here is my reloading process as of now:
tumble
lube
size deprime
case prep(trim, ream primer pockets, clean primmer pockets, chamfer/debur)
tumble again

Then throw it in to the Dillon to prime, charge, seat, and crimp the bullet.

With that being said should i buy a cheap lee single stage and put my Dillon size/deprime die in the single stage and leave station one empty?

Thanks in advance for any input
Obo2  [Member]
5/30/2012 6:22:33 PM
lot of people will still run the decapper in station 1 to make sure there is no tumbling media in the flash hole.

you may want to delube before you trim the lube likes to catch brass shavings although i"m sure most of that gets cleaned out when you tumble again.
BigGunz50  [Member]
5/30/2012 6:25:54 PM
Originally Posted By Obo2:
lot of people will still run the decapper in station 1 to make sure there is no tumbling media in the flash hole.

you may want to delube before you trim the lube likes to catch brass shavings although i"m sure most of that gets cleaned out when you tumble again.


Okay thanks for the quick reply
ARinKCMO  [Team Member]
5/30/2012 6:53:27 PM
I use my single stage as a case prep station for .223. It decaps, decrimps, trims and sizes via a Dillon RT1200. First station on my D550B is an X-Die set to just open the case neck a touch to make seating easier, but I really don't need to do that.
Wulfmann  [Member]
5/30/2012 7:04:30 PM
I use a single stage press to decap and size and then dump the cases in lacquer thinner to remove the lube.
I prime by hand using an RCBS hand primer.
I do not like the Dillon for priming because I do not remove the crimp from military brass.
90% do not need the crimp removed and I can feel this when hand priming.
The ones that are too stiff to accept a primer and require removing the crimp can be easily identified
(I keep a universal decapper with me and just push the primer back out which is only just on the lip of the case at this point)
I later remove the crimp on those 8-10% that require it.

I can hardly say I use a cheap press for this being my sizer and decapper in a Forster Bonanza which I absolutely love for this job


Wulfmann
goldeneye  [Member]
5/30/2012 7:39:13 PM
I would either buy a single stage or buy another tool head for your 550.
pdg45acp  [Team Member]
5/30/2012 7:42:51 PM
I do rifle brass prep on a 35 year old RCBS Rock Chucker. I swage crimped primer pockets on that same press with an RCBS Primer Pocket Swager. I prime with an old Lee hand priming tool.

Then I start the rifle brass in station 2 of my Dillon RL550.

AssaultRifler  [Team Member]
5/30/2012 10:04:00 PM
The sole use of my RCBS Rockchucker after I went progressive is to size rife bras.

Advantages:


dryflash3  [Moderator]
5/30/2012 10:56:22 PM

I do all of my deprimming and sizing on my Rockchucker, then case prep,


then on to 550 for the loading.

Go up to Tutorials, look for AssaultRiflers 4 part "how to Reload 223".

I use the exact same process.

When loading on the 550, I run a Lee Universal decapper in station 1 to ensure the flashole is clear of tumbling media.
randyj13  [Member]
5/30/2012 11:06:27 PM
I use a rockchucker for sizing and de-priming
after that i switch to a dillon 550
i do this for rifle brass

pistol i have a dillon 550 that is set up for just pistol and do everything on it

To this day I love the set up
GWhis  [Member]
5/31/2012 12:10:30 AM
My Rock Chucker gets the same treatment. 1. Lube, then size, Decap clean brass on the single, then 2. Run the brass through the Power Forster trimmer once for a trim/chamfer/deburr job, 3. I run (un-processed brass only) through the RCBS Bench Swager and Trim Mate. 4. Finally it makes it to the progressive for powder and bullets. Step 3 is not needed for brass that's been processed, loaded, shot then ready for reloading #2. The Trim Mate (for me) does uniforming primer pockets and flash hole deburring, both one time operations for a given piece of brass.

That said, there are still calibers I load with the Rock Chucker......takes time to get around to setting things up for everything I load. So far....223, .308, 243, .40 S&W, ,45 ACP, .38/.357 magnum, 9mm is loaded on the Pro 2000. Still loaded on the R.C. is... 30/30, 7mm Mag, and .270 and 30-06. Those will be assimilated too, if I ever quit starting new tool building projects.

kaos  [Team Member]
5/31/2012 1:15:49 AM
I deprimed 8 (eight) - 5 (five) gallon buckets of 5.56 on a Hornady Classic.
I should have just kicked myself in the butt, instead.

I now have a Dillon 650.
/me a happy boy.
7zero1  [Team Member]
5/31/2012 9:27:43 AM
Originally Posted By BigGunz50:
I have a Dillon 550b and i am trying to figure out the sequence for the whole reloading process of .223. Here is my reloading process as of now:
tumble
lube
size deprime
case prep(trim, ream primer pockets, clean primmer pockets, chamfer/debur)
tumble again

Then throw it in to the Dillon to prime, charge, seat, and crimp the bullet.

With that being said should i buy a cheap lee single stage and put my Dillon size/deprime die in the single stage and leave station one empty?

Thanks in advance for any input


Sir, in addition to the comments already provided I'll provide a few of my own. My process for reloading match rifle cartridges is much like that descriped by Mr. assault rifler. I don't normally tumble fired brass before resizing and depriming on my RCBS Rockchucker. I use a Redding Type "S" dies with the appropriate sized bushing to provide the desired case neck outside diameter. I use Imperial sizing wax for case lube and apply it as part of the handling of each case as I insert the case into the shell holder. If the brass is once fired milsurp I remove the primer crimp on a Dillon Super Swager otherwise I trim each case after resizing on my Giraud trimmer and tumble clean. After tumbling primarily to remove case lube I do case prep including primer pocket deburring and uniforming and then prime with a Sinclair priming tool.

I have a Sinclair case neck expander mandrel in station one of my Dillon 550B press to expand the case neck to provide a uniform case neck inside diameter between .002" and .003" less than the outside diameter of the bullets I use. I also have a Redding 3BR powder measure mounted in station two of the Dillon press and in station three I use a Redding or Forester/Bonanza micrometer seating die depending on which particular cartridge I'm reloading. Lastly station four of the Dillon press is empty when I'm reloading rifle cartridges, in other words I do not crimp. The desired case neck tension has already been set in station one. HTH, 7zero1.

lew  [Team Member]
5/31/2012 3:47:47 PM
I do all of my rifle loading, as well as pistol decapping and sizing on a Lee Challenger single stage. The pistol cartridges get powder and a bullet on the Lee Progressive.
lmlandlord  [Member]
5/31/2012 3:58:46 PM
I do.

When I had my 550 I deprime all of my brass on my Lee Cast Iron Breech Lock Press. I resized all of my rifle brass on the single stage. I also will de-bulge 45 acp and 40 S&W on the single stage.


I have just gotten two 650s so I may change how I deprime. I may do a short clean cycle in the tumble to remove loose dirt from the brass and then deprime using the auto case feeder. This should go a little faster on the 650 then on the single stage. I will resize my rifle on the single stage.

Dane
Trollslayer  [Team Member]
5/31/2012 5:16:53 PM
I like to decap and size on my new T-7 turret press, especially if it's time to trim the brass. Whatever press/die combo you use for sizing needs to be properly set up. You need proper, consistent headspace and you want minimal runout. Don't use a cheap press or poor process if it's warping your cases.

You can do the above on your Dillon, too, but I have this new press and have to justify buying it. :)
Minuteman419  [Life Member]
5/31/2012 9:10:24 PM
I decap and size on a Co-Ax.

Best for me out of everything I've tried.

Danny
DaveN  [Team Member]
6/1/2012 11:31:59 AM
Back when I used to reload for .223, I did everything on the Dillon 550B. Size, deprime, everything. The rifle, a Compass Lake AR, would shoot 3/4 MOA with that ammo.