What to pay for a new Sabre Defense AUG ?

Came across a dealer who's has a Sabre Defense Aug that's been in his inventory for 2 years and he asked me to make him an offer.

But I read that Steyr may possibly remake another A3 here in the US again (would it be called the A3-D )

Anyway, what's the max I should pay for a new Sabre Defense Aug?

I checked Gunbroker recent sales $1800 & $2400 used, and $2000 new.

Also, if only 1800 were made (as claimed) why are these and others sitting around unsold after 3 years?

-Thanks

If your dealer is in NY state as you are, well, there is your answer.

NY state residents can only purchase and trade Pre-Ban Steyr Augs. NY state adopted the Federal AWB that expired years ago.

If he advertised nationwide, his stock of Steyr Augs would probably be gone in hours listed at Steyrs MSRP.

Purchasing a new A3 at MSRP * Around $2295.00 would be a steal right now!

Seriously? Weren't dealers having trouble closing them out at $1850?

Having trouble? A3's in stock available for purchase is having Trouble?

If that is the case, then why do we have stocking dealers? Why do we have Car lots with new cars on them?

Yeah, directly up until production ended it wasn't hard to find an A3 for sale.

Don't we want that?

The prices stayed level right up until the end of production.

Shortly after that, the A3's Sky Rocketed in price.

This is what I observed.

This one..

I paid around $1900 in 2009 for a new one, including shipping and a 4% charge because I paid with a credit card instead of cash. It came with two 30-round magazines and a soft case. The dealer who sold mine has one left in stock - $3200!

I'd start low to see how he reacts.

At the present time, NIB Steyr Aug A3's have been fetching from a low of 2K to the mid 3K range.

Locating one NIB is the hardest part.

MSRP during production was $2200.00 with the average selling price around $1850.00.

If you don't need all Seven of them, shoot me a PM with information on this dealer, I could go for another one.

If you get 1 let us know the dealer name and price. I am looking for one also.

JCS

I've seen one sell at $1800 NIB in the last couple months.

2300 is too high. If I were looking for a new A3 AUG, I wouldn't pay anything over 2k for a NEW IN THE BOX never fired gun.

Offer him $1600 , as part of the deal you will tell others who are looking to buy A3's . You get a good price and he clears out his A3 inventory.

I don't know. If it were me I would probably wait until the new AUGs came out and see a) what they go for MSRP, b) what impact they have on the older prices, and c) what the differences are between the two (CHF barrel vs. Sabre Button Rifled for example).

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- HS

I guess if the going rate for a used one is $2400 (hi end) and $2000K new I would jump on the new one for $2000


Or...you could wait and see if Augs are once again produced in the USA by a reliable company and see how that pans out....

On the other hand if it doesn't...that $2000 NIB Aug might go up in price a tad...

I wouldn't hold my breath for Steyr to begin production again. I just dont see the demand as there are still many of the A3's sitting on dealers shelves. If I wanted one, i would grab one now while they are still readily available.

best price I ever saw new was $1800-1850 and it came with the soft case and a few extra mags as some sort of promotion.

Agree with prior poster, Steyr is pretty flaky, I wouldn't be sure of anything they say. Plus if they restart production, the price might be $2k plus.

All comes down to how bad you want one.

Yes, and why Steyr is negotiating, deliberating with US manufacturers.

Steyr know now what to expect in sales.

It all boils down to whether it's worth them going at it again for more, less or the same profit..

At some point, the gun companies are going to have to get real and suffer with the rest of the people in this economy. No AUG, no SCAR, no ACR, no any kind of .223 fighting rifle is ever going to be "worth" $2k when people are having to decide between paying the cable bill or paying the electric bill. They could get away with a high MSRP when times were good and people didn't care because the overtime was there, different story these days.

The HK556 is hundreds more than the 556 Aug. It's a Piston gun. The bbl's are Hammer Forged, but, you can't swap them out like the Aug.

Similar to the Steyr Aug, several parts for the HK are US made up at their NH factory.

Their 7.62 is more than double what it cost for an Aug?

Heckler & Koch isn't listening.....AUCTION

The AUG A3 is the ONLY new gun I bought in the last 5 years that is accurate, reliable, and will hold it's value without a doubt.

I had 2 MSAR's and both went back to the factory, and their value is about 1/2 what they were now so I am glad they are gone
I had a Sig 556 and it shot 3" groups with a 4x scope at 100 yards (not great), it also went from a $1,200 to $1,650 to $900 now, I sold it at $1,650
I had a Remington 597 .17 HMR that blew up on me, got my money back and bought:
Magnum Research .17 HMR and it blew up too-guess I was hard headed Got my money back there too

Then I got a NIB Steyr AUG A3 and it shoots lights out, and has been reliable, I paid $1,650 for it-best deal I saw, and it's serial # 29

I am still working on the SCAR 17, it is reliable but not quite yet where I want it on accuracy, I will get a new trigger soon...

Just because one person can't afford a $2,000 rifle doesn't meane there aren't a hundred other people who can. There are people who can't afford a $200 gun, and some of those people who can't afford a $200 gun will still buy a $2,000 gun. People keep saying the economy is so bad but I can't get a good seat in a movie theater and I have to wait for a table to pay $20 for a meal.

If Steyr said they'll bring them back they'll bring them back. It will just take forever for them to do it, because Steyr NEVER EVER does anything in a timely fashion. They move so slow I'm shocked that company doesn't go back in time.

Look how long it took for Steyr pistols to come back to market.

I agree with the both of you.

It looks like The Specialist just sold one of those HK 7.62's for $3700.00.

Whether you may agree or not, HK is pretty much state of the Art in the US. Anything with their name on it = Big bucks.

HK's pricing reflects this. The Steyr A3 isn't a knock off. Personally? At 2K. I think the price of the A3 is more than reasonable.

Auction

Id say 2500. Steyr isn't going to be making these again until 2015- 2016 at the earliest.

And you know what? I broke a precious HK416 a few weeks ago. A Real one, with a fun switch. It was a dealer sample with a 10.5" barrel, the bolt broke same as any AR15 does. It was fun for 3 mags though!

Thanks, but I'm not buying that HK's are 'worth' more than any other gun. They just advertise better to people who can't think for themselves.

How many companies have to fold and fail before you believe that guns are priced too high for current market conditions? Manufacturing companies are in the business of making and moving product. There is a constant demand for firearms-it's not that the product has no demand, it's that market conditions are not favorable to companies that still think it's 2006/7.

If you're still in NY, pay zero.

I almost bought one last week, but found out that we can't in NY. At first I thought by the evil parts count it would be OK, but AUG is specifically banned. My local gun dealer confirmed with a local ATF agent.

Dukpt is correct.

It appears that the OP may have been just talking shit.

He hasn't responded to questions on who or where all of these mysterious unsold new A3's are sitting, and, supposedly collecting dust.

The least he could do is help this dealer out, and tell us.

After all, he sounded so concerned.

+1 what you said.

Maybe he will "move" to NH. for a week.

I'd pay 2k for a NIB A3. Right now.

Yippee for that Hallucination.

I don't think you will find one first time sold NIB for under 3k right now.

No doubt. I cringed when I bought my A3 a year ago for $1850. Now I wish I had bought 3!!!

That's an interesting point....when the A3 first came out... (if I remember correctly)...they were selling for @ $2500 and demand was not high.....in a few months the price
dropped dramatically....now as they are rare the price goes back up.

I am actually kinda surprised Steyr wants to "re-partner" with an American company and take another run at this....

Going with FN CHF barrels is a good move...hopefully demand is high....and so is quality control.

I can very well imagine why Steyr would want to sell a few pieces of plastic and metal with no engineering costs involved for around $2k.......

But I can never understand why people talk themselves in to why it's acceptible that all fighting rifles need to cost an average man's monthly take-home income.

Be done with it brother.

If it seems that a Steyr is not for you, why not consider other options?

Go for the MSAR 223 Bullpup. The MSAR rifle may be better option for you.

I agree, Dukpt. The cost is for quality control... to assure the last one off the production line is as accurate and reliable as the first. That peace of mind is what I will pay the additional money for.

Do either of you come from a manufacturing background?

Serious question.

Or wait till the Tavor comes out and buy my used A3 so I can get one.

It's a Steyr!

Steyr starting building rifles back when my; great, great, grandfather was less than a lonely sperm.

Two start up outfits. Both tried to imitate Steyr.

Both Knock off rifles are now defunct.

Crash, Burn, Ouch!

Price didn't matter.

just saw the average price for the aug before dealer markup you shoud not pay more than 2200 for them dealers get them for 2k if any distros have them in stock

$2295.00 was what Steyr listed for MSRP.

Before production halted, anything less than $2195.00 should be considered a tight hug & gift.

Why would it be so difficult for you or anyone else to believe that there were quite a few A3's sitting around, unsold, for quite some time after Steyr completed it's production? I understand you want to believe they are in demand, but to say the OP is a liar because he claimed to have seen one that supposedly hadn't sold for a while is absurd.

Unless it is a Pre-Ban, anything with the name Aug on it is a No, No.

A new A3 sitting at a New York State FFL is for Law Enforcement sale only.

The TS came here and stated a claim with questions.

We answered, he Bolted.

I asked you a question and you bailed on it so all I can say is:

Meh.

There's one on sturm for $3250... Really wish I would have got one when they were $1700!

Unless you're an LEO. My buddy at work has a Saber Defense version.

NIB AUG in the EE for $2k firm...

Wow...just wow. A perfectly law abiding tax paying citizen in New York (one of the original 13 states) can't purchase a semi-auto rifle because the State says it's a "No, No." I know that to be true, but it's still just amazing to read about it. A lot of good, solid people in New York being denied a Constitutional right.

NY state never left the shoes that all of us were once wearing.

Some of the Bright Blue States have kept the Expired Federal AWB on their books.

They didn't want to give up Such A Good Thing.

NY, MA, and CA. to name three.

I just sold my almost nib for $2900, it had 8 Mags, ARMs aug sites and a couple other parts included.

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