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Cole2534  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 3:23:56 PM
Anyone know where to get some for less than $90?

-Cole
GNRNR  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 7:07:58 PM
Tactical machine.

https://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-products/80-ar-15-lower-receiver.html
PR361  [Member]
2/13/2012 9:51:45 PM
+ 1 on Tactical Machine.


They are a manufacturer, CNCing their own.
They are local for me, I've been to their plant several times. Good, trustworthy guys trying to make the very best product. I have NOT done an 80%, but I have been part of a dozen or so builds on their finished lowers, and they have been 100%.

Good people, good product.
Gun_Crank  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 10:47:09 PM




At that price get 5.
Cole2534  [Team Member]
2/14/2012 7:18:15 AM
Well I really think I may knock out a few 30%ers. The mag well is what sucks, the rest of the work I enjoy particularly the fixturing.

Im taking the plates Ray Vin uses and extending the concept into soft jaws with alignment dowels.

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Dr69er  [Member]
2/16/2012 5:11:19 PM

See below.

Cole2534  [Team Member]
2/16/2012 5:20:30 PM

ditto

Dr69er  [Member]
2/16/2012 6:59:55 PM

ditto

mestk421  [Member]
2/18/2012 5:30:50 PM
thats exactly what i need to finish my 80% 308, will be waiting patiently, thx.
shrikefan  [Team Member]
2/24/2012 7:03:16 AM

Last one


sumkrnboy  [Member]
2/24/2012 7:25:48 AM
+1 for Tactical Machining... Their products and especially their customer service are top notch.
RocketmanOU  [Team Member]
2/24/2012 7:55:49 PM

You can't promote your web site without an account. AeroE


rocky6978  [Member]
3/1/2012 4:27:26 AM
seems a lot for for a 80% when you can buy a stripped for the same price.
AeroE  [Moderator]
3/1/2012 11:19:42 PM

I should have counted the posts, I normally don't make a surgical edit.

PR361  [Member]
3/2/2012 8:48:05 AM
Originally Posted By rocky6978:
seems a lot for for a 80% when you can buy a stripped for the same price.


I agree, I love DIY, but part of the satisfaction is saving money. Lot of work for no savings.


I'd be more interested in 80% lowers if they were 80% price reduction....

I guess the price point is what it is.

Maybe when I get more time on my hands I'll take on a 100% casting.......they're cheap enough at $100 for 5....
RDTCU  [Team Member]
3/2/2012 8:57:25 AM


Done a few of these, good stuff.
RocketmanOU  [Team Member]
3/5/2012 8:50:50 PM
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:

You can't promote your web site without an account. AeroE




TBH, I don't even remember what I posted, but FWIW, I don't have my own website...any idea why the mod?
Cole2534  [Team Member]
3/5/2012 11:15:08 PM
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:

You can't promote your web site without an account. AeroE




TBH, I don't even remember what I posted, but FWIW, I don't have my own website...any idea why the mod?

Probably because OU sucks.



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RocketmanOU  [Team Member]
3/5/2012 11:24:44 PM
Originally Posted By Cole2534:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:

You can't promote your web site without an account. AeroE




TBH, I don't even remember what I posted, but FWIW, I don't have my own website...any idea why the mod?

Probably because OU sucks.



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LOL I assume you know I'm not from Oklahoma....
Cole2534  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 12:18:47 AM
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By Cole2534:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:

You can't promote your web site without an account. AeroE




TBH, I don't even remember what I posted, but FWIW, I don't have my own website...any idea why the mod?

Probably because OU sucks.



LOL I assume you know I'm not from Oklahoma....
Probably because OU sucks.


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JGPSTAHL  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 1:50:18 AM
I don't want to change the subject, but I noticed that you said that doing the mag well sucks. I have been looking through the threads on how to do that but have only found instructions for 80% receivers. Can anyone point me in the right direction for milling out the mag well?
Oh yeah. I went to OU as well. You must have gone to OSU?
Cole2534  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 7:35:28 AM
Ya, I did.

The ray vin tutorial shows a pretty good method. You will need a good, sharp file.

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RocketmanOU  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 8:11:56 AM
Originally Posted By JGPSTAHL:
I don't want to change the subject, but I noticed that you said that doing the mag well sucks. I have been looking through the threads on how to do that but have only found instructions for 80% receivers. Can anyone point me in the right direction for milling out the mag well?
Oh yeah. I went to OU as well. You must have gone to OSU?


If you've got a keyway broach laying around, you can use that to do some of the sharp corners inside the well before you mill out the big pocket. A big problem lies in the 0.03125" and 0.0625" radius fillets that go 2" deep. If you've got a nice set of chucking reamers, you could try to drill/ream out the fillets before milling. As for inletting the magwell...unless you've got a 4th axis, I see either a lot of angular mounts or a lot of filing in your future...
RDTCU  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 9:42:25 AM
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By JGPSTAHL:
I don't want to change the subject, but I noticed that you said that doing the mag well sucks. I have been looking through the threads on how to do that but have only found instructions for 80% receivers. Can anyone point me in the right direction for milling out the mag well?
Oh yeah. I went to OU as well. You must have gone to OSU?


If you've got a keyway broach laying around, you can use that to do some of the sharp corners inside the well before you mill out the big pocket. A big problem lies in the 0.03125" and 0.0625" radius fillets that go 2" deep. If you've got a nice set of chucking reamers, you could try to drill/ream out the fillets before milling. As for inletting the magwell...unless you've got a 4th axis, I see either a lot of angular mounts or a lot of filing in your future...


For cutting magwells corners, I fabbed up a broaching tool from a steel rod and a small triangle lathe insert mounted at the proper angle on the end. I lock the mill spindle and use the quill like a manual punch to shave off the material in the corners, then index over a few thousandths and stroke again until I get my corners.
RocketmanOU  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 10:04:03 AM
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By JGPSTAHL:
I don't want to change the subject, but I noticed that you said that doing the mag well sucks. I have been looking through the threads on how to do that but have only found instructions for 80% receivers. Can anyone point me in the right direction for milling out the mag well?
Oh yeah. I went to OU as well. You must have gone to OSU?


If you've got a keyway broach laying around, you can use that to do some of the sharp corners inside the well before you mill out the big pocket. A big problem lies in the 0.03125" and 0.0625" radius fillets that go 2" deep. If you've got a nice set of chucking reamers, you could try to drill/ream out the fillets before milling. As for inletting the magwell...unless you've got a 4th axis, I see either a lot of angular mounts or a lot of filing in your future...


For cutting magwells corners, I fabbed up a broaching tool from a steel rod and a small triangle lathe insert mounted at the proper angle on the end. I lock the mill spindle and use the quill like a manual punch to shave off the material in the corners, then index over a few thousandths and stroke again until I get my corners.


This is why I need a lathe
RDTCU  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 10:05:22 AM
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:

This is why I need a lathe


The only thing I used the lathe for was borrowing the triangle insert
Grimjaw5  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 8:38:48 PM
These are more than you want to pay, but the Mag well is already cut.

ASA M4 AR-15 95 Percent Lower Receiver





Description


ASA Forged 95 Percent Lower Receiver
•7075 USA Made Forged Aluminum


Machined with the following:
•Magazine Well (cut using an EDM Wire Cutter)
•Front Pivot Pin Holes
•Rear Take-Down Pin Hole
•Threaded Receiver Extension
•Front Pivot Detent Hole
•Rear Take-Down Detent Hole
•Buffer Detent Hole
•Fully-Machined Bolt Catch
•Fully-Machined Magazine Release
•Trigger Guard Holes
•Upper Receiver Rear Lug Pocket
•NO FFL NEEDED FOR PURCHASE. This item can be shipped directly to your house


As determined by the Firearms Technology Branch of the ATF, this lower receiver is not classified as a "firearm" as defined by the GCA of 1968. The ATF examination confirmed that the American Spirit Arms forging has been partially machined, but has no machining of any kind performed in the area of the trigger/hammer recess, and therefore is not classified as a "firearm" and may be sold as such under applicable federal and state laws.

Sale Price: $129.00
RDTCU  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 8:47:23 PM
Originally Posted By Grimjaw5:
These are more than you want to pay, but the Mag well is already cut.

ASA M4 AR-15 95 Percent Lower Receiver

http://www.americanspiritarms.com/images/products/preview/asa-lr-95.jpg



Description


ASA Forged 95 Percent Lower Receiver
•7075 USA Made Forged Aluminum


Machined with the following:
•Magazine Well (cut using an EDM Wire Cutter)
•Front Pivot Pin Holes
•Rear Take-Down Pin Hole
•Threaded Receiver Extension
•Front Pivot Detent Hole
•Rear Take-Down Detent Hole
•Buffer Detent Hole
•Fully-Machined Bolt Catch
•Fully-Machined Magazine Release
•Trigger Guard Holes
•Upper Receiver Rear Lug Pocket
•NO FFL NEEDED FOR PURCHASE. This item can be shipped directly to your house


As determined by the Firearms Technology Branch of the ATF, this lower receiver is not classified as a "firearm" as defined by the GCA of 1968. The ATF examination confirmed that the American Spirit Arms forging has been partially machined, but has no machining of any kind performed in the area of the trigger/hammer recess, and therefore is not classified as a "firearm" and may be sold as such under applicable federal and state laws.

Sale Price: $129.00


Soooo, basically the exact same thing with the exact same work required as a Tactical Machining lower, but only $50 more?
Grimjaw5  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 8:52:20 PM
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Grimjaw5:
These are more than you want to pay, but the Mag well is already cut.

ASA M4 AR-15 95 Percent Lower Receiver

http://www.americanspiritarms.com/images/products/preview/asa-lr-95.jpg



Description


ASA Forged 95 Percent Lower Receiver
•7075 USA Made Forged Aluminum


Machined with the following:
•Magazine Well (cut using an EDM Wire Cutter)
•Front Pivot Pin Holes
•Rear Take-Down Pin Hole
•Threaded Receiver Extension
•Front Pivot Detent Hole
•Rear Take-Down Detent Hole
•Buffer Detent Hole
•Fully-Machined Bolt Catch
•Fully-Machined Magazine Release
•Trigger Guard Holes
•Upper Receiver Rear Lug Pocket
•NO FFL NEEDED FOR PURCHASE. This item can be shipped directly to your house


As determined by the Firearms Technology Branch of the ATF, this lower receiver is not classified as a "firearm" as defined by the GCA of 1968. The ATF examination confirmed that the American Spirit Arms forging has been partially machined, but has no machining of any kind performed in the area of the trigger/hammer recess, and therefore is not classified as a "firearm" and may be sold as such under applicable federal and state laws.

Sale Price: $129.00


Soooo, basically the exact same thing with the exact same work required as a Tactical Machining lower, but only $50 more?


Sorry, I did not look at the TM link. This was the only one I had seen before with the magwell.

EDIT- Heck after looking, it may be the exact same thing.....

RDTCU  [Team Member]
3/6/2012 9:09:13 PM
Originally Posted By Grimjaw5:
Sorry, I did not look at the TM link. This was the only one I had seen before with the magwell.

EDIT- Heck after looking, it may be the exact same thing.....



Yeah, TM's had that lower for the last couple years, since the ATF changed the regs for the FCG pocket. My theory is that the ATF wanted to make it harder to complete for those without an actual mill...

I've finished up a couple old style and the newer lowers, but I've got a mill and prefer the newer style because it only takes one setup...
JGPSTAHL  [Team Member]
3/8/2012 1:17:02 AM
Originally Posted By Cole2534:
Ya, I did.

The ray vin tutorial shows a pretty good method. You will need a good, sharp file.

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Thanks for the advice! This is why I love arfcom.