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WileyCoyote  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 12:59:34 AM
...very important - please ask your State Rep to support or co-sponsor!!

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http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8190


Reps. Maag & Thompson introduce HB422 (Repeal LEO notification) and HB425 (CCW in state-owned parking garages)
Submitted by cbaus on Thu, 01/26/2012 - 15:00
by Chad D. Baus

State Reps. Ron Maag (R-Lebanon) and Andy Thompson (R-Marietta) have introduced two bills that seek to reform, or "de-Taft," portions of Ohio's concealed carry law.

House Bill 422 seeks to repeal requirements that a concealed carry licensee inform an approaching law enforcement officer that the licensee is a licensee and is carrying a concealed handgun. According to rep. Maag, Ohio is one of only four states that have such a requirement. The idea for repealing the notification provision has been the subject of frequent discussion since last June, when Canton police officer Daniel Harless was caught on dash cam video threatening to execute a concealed carry licensee because he felt notification did not happen in time. The case against the CHL-holder were eventually thrown out of court, and Harless was fired.

The bill also removes a provision requiring licensee's to keep their hands in "plain sight" after the officer begins approaching and until the ...

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HB422 http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_422

HB425 http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_425
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Top_Secret  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 9:57:29 AM
Hey some semblance of what the word "Loaded" actually means. That's an improvement. They really need to strike down the whole thing or amend it so CHL holders can keep loaded rifles as well. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. At least you could have mags loaded which is a major plus.
safe1  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 12:26:07 PM
Love the new avitar
WileyCoyote  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 8:50:00 PM
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Hey some semblance of what the word "Loaded" actually means. That's an improvement. They really need to strike down the whole thing or amend it so CHL holders can keep loaded rifles as well. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. At least you could have mags loaded which is a major plus.


basically it's the way you are calling it here... take a look at the markup - scroll to the very bottom of the text:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_422
WileyCoyote  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 8:50:39 PM
Originally Posted By safe1:
Love the new avitar


thanks! i find it "refreshing"
Top_Secret  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 8:57:46 PM
Originally Posted By WileyCoyote:
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Hey some semblance of what the word "Loaded" actually means. That's an improvement. They really need to strike down the whole thing or amend it so CHL holders can keep loaded rifles as well. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. At least you could have mags loaded which is a major plus.


basically it's the way you are calling it here... take a look at the markup - scroll to the very bottom of the text:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_422


Oh I saw they were actually making unloaded mean unloaded. I just think it's ridiculous to have a loaded pistol on your hip legal, but a rifle is not. It's a welcome change no doubt.

Next stop, >30 rounds in a magazine is still a semi auto.
Thunderchicken21  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 9:40:19 PM
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Originally Posted By WileyCoyote:
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Hey some semblance of what the word "Loaded" actually means. That's an improvement. They really need to strike down the whole thing or amend it so CHL holders can keep loaded rifles as well. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. At least you could have mags loaded which is a major plus.


basically it's the way you are calling it here... take a look at the markup - scroll to the very bottom of the text:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_422


Oh I saw they were actually making unloaded mean unloaded. I just think it's ridiculous to have a loaded pistol on your hip legal, but a rifle is not. It's a welcome change no doubt.

Next stop, >30 rounds in a magazine is still a semi auto.



I agree that needs to be the next step, but lets get this step finished first
OhioLongRange  [Member]
1/27/2012 9:42:53 PM
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Originally Posted By WileyCoyote:
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Hey some semblance of what the word "Loaded" actually means. That's an improvement. They really need to strike down the whole thing or amend it so CHL holders can keep loaded rifles as well. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. At least you could have mags loaded which is a major plus.


basically it's the way you are calling it here... take a look at the markup - scroll to the very bottom of the text:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_422


Oh I saw they were actually making unloaded mean unloaded. I just think it's ridiculous to have a loaded pistol on your hip legal, but a rifle is not. It's a welcome change no doubt.

Next stop, >30 rounds in a magazine is still a semi auto.


and suppressors for hunting :(
WileyCoyote  [Team Member]
1/27/2012 9:48:48 PM
Originally Posted By OhioLongRange:
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Originally Posted By WileyCoyote:
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
Hey some semblance of what the word "Loaded" actually means. That's an improvement. They really need to strike down the whole thing or amend it so CHL holders can keep loaded rifles as well. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. At least you could have mags loaded which is a major plus.


basically it's the way you are calling it here... take a look at the markup - scroll to the very bottom of the text:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_HB_422


Oh I saw they were actually making unloaded mean unloaded. I just think it's ridiculous to have a loaded pistol on your hip legal, but a rifle is not. It's a welcome change no doubt.

Next stop, >30 rounds in a magazine is still a semi auto.


and suppressors for hunting :(


that would be good to bring up at the ODNR open house.... attendance is needed, ..there is discussion on that here:
http://forums.buckeyefirearms.org/viewforum.php?f=10&sid=72413ec5a4f561eeb5e10472d25b4015

Walkure  [Team Member]
1/28/2012 4:41:48 PM
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
I just think it's ridiculous to have a loaded pistol on your hip legal, but a rifle is not.


Pretty sure that open carry of loaded rifles is totally legal, and this wouldn't change any of that anyway. (As I recall, there are no prohibitions against open carry of any firearm, loaded or not; the prohibitions are just on having a loaded firearm in/on a motor vehicle.)
Top_Secret  [Team Member]
1/28/2012 11:28:14 PM
Originally Posted By Walkure:
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
I just think it's ridiculous to have a loaded pistol on your hip legal, but a rifle is not.


Pretty sure that open carry of loaded rifles is totally legal, and this wouldn't change any of that anyway. (As I recall, there are no prohibitions against open carry of any firearm, loaded or not; the prohibitions are just on having a loaded firearm in/on a motor vehicle.)


Correct, I was inferring about carrying in a vehicle, but the point still stands as to why it is suddenly more dangerous/criminal to have a loaded long gun in a motor vehicle. That needs to be removed entirely because it is pointless and does nothing but make more "criminals".
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