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What is a good security camera system
2/10/2012 4:38:15 AM
With all of the fucking shitbag low lifes around here I am thinking of getting a security camera system... Just WAY too many to choose form
2/10/2012 8:55:08 AM
Have you read TheGrayMans CCTV thread?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/624112_CCTV_cameras_101_____Table_of_Contents_in_OP____Updated_30_Jan.html
I use Vivotek PoE IP cameras and have been very happy.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/624112_CCTV_cameras_101_____Table_of_Contents_in_OP____Updated_30_Jan.html
I use Vivotek PoE IP cameras and have been very happy.
2/10/2012 8:55:52 AM
DT
2/10/2012 2:09:53 PM
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Have you read TheGrayMans CCTV thread?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/624112_CCTV_cameras_101_____Table_of_Contents_in_OP____Updated_30_Jan.html
I use Vivotek PoE IP cameras and have been very happy.
Have you read TheGrayMans CCTV thread?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/624112_CCTV_cameras_101_____Table_of_Contents_in_OP____Updated_30_Jan.html
I use Vivotek PoE IP cameras and have been very happy.
Great link. Thanks. Been thinking of looking for a camera as well.
2/10/2012 11:48:05 PM
I'm a huge "Control 4" fan! Just so many options with there controller and software.
2/11/2012 1:26:06 PM
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
2/11/2012 4:43:54 PM
How much are folks paying for their camera systems? Do they have a recording feature for video? I am going to buy a house very soon and would like some security precautions installed.
2/11/2012 4:51:31 PM
Originally Posted By WA-Tom:
How much are folks paying for their camera systems? Do they have a recording feature for video? I am going to buy a house very soon and would like some security precautions installed.
How much are folks paying for their camera systems? Do they have a recording feature for video? I am going to buy a house very soon and would like some security precautions installed.
DVAndANd what I am looking for is one threcordsdes when it see motion
2/11/2012 4:57:41 PM
My head hurts...
2/11/2012 5:02:38 PM
I think your "smart" phone is making you look stupid :)
2/11/2012 5:48:01 PM
Be very careful relying solely on motion recording.
Some cameras do not have a large memory buffer, so can only record a few frames or seconds at maximum resolution, and the frame rates are usually not as good as a stream.
The motion detection algorithms vary widely and can be tripped by changing light conditions (since the motion compares pixel level changes from frame to frame a reflection of light or something similar can trip the motion).
I use the motion to flag me by recording a log entry.
It also saves snap shots to the onboard SD card in the camera during a motion event.
The camera will also e-mail me snap shots or video clips triggered by the motion events.
But I have it streaming to a NAS 24/7 at the highest resolution available on the camera.
So the motion detection events tell me what time segment to look at to review the video.
This way I have a constant high resolution stream of video and I can review the time before and after a motion event.
You need high resolution to make identifications. That takes storage space.
The camera I use is streaming ~90MB/min in daytime and ~50MB/min at night.
About 100GB/day.
I have it streaming to a 2TB drive. Once the drive is full it starts over writing the oldest data.
I'm using a NAS but you could stream to a spare hard drive in a computer.
A 1TB drive would give you ~10 days of recording time with this camera.
I'm using the Vivotek IP7361 for my driveway camera.
It's about $500.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170691326922?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
The Vivotek IP8352 is newer and has better performance.
It's about $625
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170697836163?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
These cameras are IP cameras and PoE (Power over Ethernet), meaning I only have to run a single Cat5E cable to them.
I plug them into an inexpensive PoE network switch which powers the cameras and routes the video and allows management of the camera via a web interface.
When I was in Thailand I simply logged into the camera and could monitor the video feed. I could also call up the recordings and view the video clips from off site half way around the world.
These cameras have good specs and variable lenses to get the image exactly right.
They are some of the middle priced PoE cameras.
The cameras do all the streaming and recording processing onboard.
So I don't need additional software running to record or view the video.
I point the camera to my disk and tell it how often I want to record and how much space it has to play with.
The camera takes care of everything else. There are 4 separate configurable streams output from each camera.
I also have a $300 IP camera.
It is also IP and PoE and is mega pixel, but it has a fixed lens, no onboard storage and only a single stream.
It also does not push record, so I need to route it through video server software to record the stream.
When you price cameras, you have to price the system. Cameras, recording device, etc.
I decided on the PoE IP cameras because of ease of installation.
I decided on mega pixel cameras because of the resolution of the video.
I like the push recording feature of the Vivoteks.
Some cameras do not have a large memory buffer, so can only record a few frames or seconds at maximum resolution, and the frame rates are usually not as good as a stream.
The motion detection algorithms vary widely and can be tripped by changing light conditions (since the motion compares pixel level changes from frame to frame a reflection of light or something similar can trip the motion).
I use the motion to flag me by recording a log entry.
It also saves snap shots to the onboard SD card in the camera during a motion event.
The camera will also e-mail me snap shots or video clips triggered by the motion events.
But I have it streaming to a NAS 24/7 at the highest resolution available on the camera.
So the motion detection events tell me what time segment to look at to review the video.
This way I have a constant high resolution stream of video and I can review the time before and after a motion event.
You need high resolution to make identifications. That takes storage space.
The camera I use is streaming ~90MB/min in daytime and ~50MB/min at night.
About 100GB/day.
I have it streaming to a 2TB drive. Once the drive is full it starts over writing the oldest data.
I'm using a NAS but you could stream to a spare hard drive in a computer.
A 1TB drive would give you ~10 days of recording time with this camera.
I'm using the Vivotek IP7361 for my driveway camera.
It's about $500.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170691326922?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
The Vivotek IP8352 is newer and has better performance.
It's about $625
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170697836163?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
These cameras are IP cameras and PoE (Power over Ethernet), meaning I only have to run a single Cat5E cable to them.
I plug them into an inexpensive PoE network switch which powers the cameras and routes the video and allows management of the camera via a web interface.
When I was in Thailand I simply logged into the camera and could monitor the video feed. I could also call up the recordings and view the video clips from off site half way around the world.
These cameras have good specs and variable lenses to get the image exactly right.
They are some of the middle priced PoE cameras.
The cameras do all the streaming and recording processing onboard.
So I don't need additional software running to record or view the video.
I point the camera to my disk and tell it how often I want to record and how much space it has to play with.
The camera takes care of everything else. There are 4 separate configurable streams output from each camera.
I also have a $300 IP camera.
It is also IP and PoE and is mega pixel, but it has a fixed lens, no onboard storage and only a single stream.
It also does not push record, so I need to route it through video server software to record the stream.
When you price cameras, you have to price the system. Cameras, recording device, etc.
I decided on the PoE IP cameras because of ease of installation.
I decided on mega pixel cameras because of the resolution of the video.
I like the push recording feature of the Vivoteks.
2/12/2012 4:11:06 PM
Originally Posted By WA-Tom:
I think your "smart" phone is making you look stupid :)
I think your "smart" phone is making you look stupid :)
This is whi I don't have a smart phone
2/12/2012 11:37:24 PM
Originally Posted By dr_drae:
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
This is what we used. If your within 50 feet your good, but after 50 feet...ish, reading a license plate would be iffy. No audio.
2/13/2012 12:33:13 AM
Originally Posted By dr_drae:
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
These are what I am looking into. I friend has them in his shop, he can monitor them from his smart phone. I saw one on Dateline, night time images were very clear.
2/13/2012 1:06:00 PM
Originally Posted By mybronco2:
This is what we used. If your within 50 feet your good, but after 50 feet...ish, reading a license plate would be iffy. No audio.
Originally Posted By dr_drae:
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
Just helped my brother install one of the Q.SEE systems from Costco. VERY impressed.
Expandable, IR, and he can check all his cams anywhere from his smartphone.
This is what we used. If your within 50 feet your good, but after 50 feet...ish, reading a license plate would be iffy. No audio.
Mind posting a image to get a idea how clear it is?
