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OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 12:32:19 AM
Ok so I decided carrying my M&P was going to suck now that hoodies are just too hot. Now I'm big, but I still print pretty bad with that full size tucked IWB. So I was at Fleet Farm and picked up a Kahr CW9 and put it side buy side with a M&P much smaller and man did it fit my hand. I tried the CM9 but it just didn't fit well. So I get to pick up my new pistol Monday night, I know a few guys here have Kahrs, how they running? Oh yeah they are also running a sale on Spam Cans of 5.45 for 139, thats what AIM gets for them, grabbed one of those for Roasted nuts!!
JakeThePimp  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 12:50:53 AM
I have two cw9's, no problems to report. They are really tight when they're new, about 200 rounds and they feel better. Get an HKS 943 loader, the mags are a pain in the ass to reload.
OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 1:17:03 AM
Originally Posted By JakeThePimp:
I have two cw9's, no problems to report. They are really tight when they're new, about 200 rounds and they feel better. Get an HKS 943 loader, the mags are a pain in the ass to reload.


Exactly the kind of input I was looking for! Thanks for the tip Jake!

JakeThePimp  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 1:59:56 AM
Oh yeah, use the slide catch to release the slide (as it states in the owners manual). Pulling back on the side to chamber a round can cause it to hang.
OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 3:14:21 AM
Really? Interesting, I've tried to stay away from that with my other handguns, but if that's what it says!
polymorpheous  [Member]
5/6/2012 7:49:31 AM
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
So I was at Fleet Farm and picked up a Kahr CW9 and put it side buy side with a M&P much smaller and man did it fit my hand.


Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but did you unholster a concealed weapon ,(loaded, no doubt), in a public setting to compare sizes with other weapons?
glenn_r  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 8:06:54 AM
I've had nothing but good experiences with the Kahr series. The P380 is too small for me, but the K9, CW9, and PM9 I have experience with have been great. Haven't run into problems with the mags, myself. But I do recommend carrying the spare mag in a pouch, because the top round isn't carried as securely as most other magazines. (Of course, pocket carry of any mag exposes it to lint, pocket grit, etc., so isn't good anyway.)

Let us know how it shoots.
Aphex  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 10:46:47 AM
Originally Posted By polymorpheous:
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
So I was at Fleet Farm and picked up a Kahr CW9 and put it side buy side with a M&P much smaller and man did it fit my hand.


Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but did you unholster a concealed weapon ,(loaded, no doubt), in a public setting to compare sizes with other weapons?


Fleet Farm carries M&P pistols so I doubt OsirisX just whipped it out of his pants to compare.
OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 10:48:23 AM
Originally Posted By polymorpheous:
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
So I was at Fleet Farm and picked up a Kahr CW9 and put it side buy side with a M&P much smaller and man did it fit my hand.


Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but did you unholster a concealed weapon ,(loaded, no doubt), in a public setting to compare sizes with other weapons?


No I asked to see the M&P behind the counter for a side by side....that is why I said A not MY....


rcav8r  [Member]
5/6/2012 11:37:06 AM
Nice. CW9 is on my wish list.
j_treckler  [Member]
5/6/2012 11:37:08 AM
Originally Posted By polymorpheous:
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
So I was at Fleet Farm and picked up a Kahr CW9 and put it side buy side with a M&P much smaller and man did it fit my hand.


Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but did you unholster a concealed weapon ,(loaded, no doubt), in a public setting to compare sizes with other weapons?


It's fine to do this, so long as you whip out your neck chain CCW badge first; to let everyone know that you're a professional.

prebans  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 2:10:48 PM
Originally Posted By Aphex:
Originally Posted By polymorpheous:
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
So I was at Fleet Farm and picked up a Kahr CW9 and put it side buy side with a M&P much smaller and man did it fit my hand.


Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but did you unholster a concealed weapon ,(loaded, no doubt), in a public setting to compare sizes with other weapons?


Fleet Farm carries M&P pistols so I doubt OsirisX just whipped it out of his pants to compare.


Aphex, I don't know you, but I DO know that you have excellent taste in music.

Back on topic, where are these mystical Fleet & Farms that carry pistols..?

Mike
Aphex  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 2:27:58 PM
Originally Posted By prebans:
Aphex, I don't know you, but I DO know that you have excellent taste in music.

Back on topic, where are these mystical Fleet & Farms that carry pistols..?

Mike


Thanks!

The Fleet Farm in Oshkosh carries a couple dozen different models.

ETA just noticed you said Fleet & Farm not sure if that was a typo or you meant Farm & Fleet?
Bill2k1  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 4:17:00 PM
Originally Posted By prebans:


Back on topic, where are these mystical Fleet & Farms that carry pistols..?

Mike


The closest to Milwaukee is Germantown. I took a ride out there last Wednesday and I was amazed by the firearms section.
Parruthead  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 4:36:27 PM
I love our K9 and E9. I have a lot of holsters feel free to check them out at the Roasted Nuts this summer Just remind me to bring them along.. !

OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/6/2012 5:28:45 PM
That would be great, the only holstera I have used are my MTAC (Which I love) and a Bladetech, but I would like to try out different kinds.
PWACommando  [Member]
5/6/2012 5:52:26 PM
I have a CM9 and it rocks. 0 jams in 200 rounds so far, including Fiocchi and Winchester JHP from both the 6 and 7 round mags. I just picked up a Remora holster at the last gunshow and it is ridiculous! That combo makes the little gun just disappear.
rcav8r  [Member]
5/6/2012 6:53:43 PM
I love my Clevelands Ugly Holster. Made right here in WI. Buffalo Holster has a good rep, and is also made here in WI.
todd4417  [Member]
5/6/2012 9:22:38 PM
I love my CW9 it's my daily carry gun, I've got shot 600+ trouble free rounds with 100+ of those being Federal 147gr HST's, Icarry mine in a Theis Holster. -Todd
rfb45colt  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 9:10:05 AM
Originally Posted By glenn_r:
I've had nothing but good experiences with the Kahr series. The P380 is too small for me, but the K9, CW9, and PM9 I have experience with have been great. Haven't run into problems with the mags, myself. But I do recommend carrying the spare mag in a pouch, because the top round isn't carried as securely as most other magazines. (Of course, pocket carry of any mag exposes it to lint, pocket grit, etc., so isn't good anyway.)

Let us know how it shoots.


I tried carrying spare mags for my CM9 in the smaller tool pocket of my carpenter jeans. I'd put an extended 7 rnd mag in there in the morning, and at the end of the day, I'd have 2 or 3 loose rounds of 9mm in my pocket, and only 4 or 5 still in the mag. Solution... I found some real nice belt-carry mag holders at Crossbreed Seconds.com. It's leather, made by Frontline (an Israeli corp) and it was only $15.

As for the OP about Kahrs, I've had the CM9 since 9/20/11, carried it every single day since 12/10/11, got about 400 rounds through it, and had zero problems (other than the spare mags "unloading" themselves in my pocket). The CM9 fits my big hands better with the extended mag than it does with the standard, so I bought two extended mag spares. Cheaper Than Dirt had the best price, just under $30. Don't know if yours will be like mine, and also 3 others that I know that have the CM9/CW9, but they like 147gr bullets the best, as far as hitting where aimed. 115gr bullets impact significantly lower than point of aim past 10 yds. 147s are right on the money. Never had to touch the sights with the 147s. Surprisingly accurate out to 25yds too. Needless to say, I've become a big Kahr fan.
OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 9:29:44 AM
Originally Posted By rfb45colt:
Originally Posted By glenn_r:
I've had nothing but good experiences with the Kahr series. The P380 is too small for me, but the K9, CW9, and PM9 I have experience with have been great. Haven't run into problems with the mags, myself. But I do recommend carrying the spare mag in a pouch, because the top round isn't carried as securely as most other magazines. (Of course, pocket carry of any mag exposes it to lint, pocket grit, etc., so isn't good anyway.)

Let us know how it shoots.


I tried carrying spare mags for my CM9 in the smaller tool pocket of my carpenter jeans. I'd put an extended 7 rnd mag in there in the morning, and at the end of the day, I'd have 2 or 3 loose rounds of 9mm in my pocket, and only 4 or 5 still in the mag. Solution... I found some real nice belt-carry mag holders at Crossbreed Seconds.com. It's leather, made by Frontline (an Israeli corp) and it was only $15.

As for the OP about Kahrs, I've had the CM9 since 9/20/11, carried it every single day since 12/10/11, got about 400 rounds through it, and had zero problems (other than the spare mags "unloading" themselves in my pocket). The CM9 fits my big hands better with the extended mag than it does with the standard, so I bought two extended mag spares. Cheaper Than Dirt had the best price, just under $30. Don't know if yours will be like mine, and also 3 others that I know that have the CM9/CW9, but they like 147gr bullets the best, as far as hitting where aimed. 115gr bullets impact significantly lower than point of aim past 10 yds. 147s are right on the money. Never had to touch the sights with the 147s. Surprisingly accurate out to 25yds too. Needless to say, I've become a big Kahr fan.



So far I have ordered 2 spare mags (Not extended, the gun fits my hand well with the 7 capacity mags) and the HK 943 loader Jake recommended from Midway, while I found that CTD had them cheaper they were coming from 2 warehouses for the loader and mags and shipping was like $18. I put the same order in at Midway and shipping First Class Mail was just under $5. I was also looking at Crossbreed Seconds last night and saw some stuff I'll keep checking it. I think I'm just going to get the kydex half for my Minotaur as far as a holster. Thanks for all the help guys!

Shooterer  [Member]
5/7/2012 9:44:44 AM
I have had both the MK9 (steel) and the PM45 (plastic). I like both weapons and they were very accurate, reliable and easy to shoot. I traded them off when my interests changed (it happens often)

The only thing I did not like about both pistols was that 50% of the time the last case being ejected out of the mag would hit me right between the eyes
mainfr4me  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 10:09:37 AM

Originally Posted By Shooterer:
I have had both the MK9 (steel) and the PM45 (plastic). I like both weapons and they were very accurate, reliable and easy to shoot. I traded them off when my interests changed (it happens often)

The only thing I did not like about both pistols was that 50% of the time the last case being ejected out of the mag would hit me right between the eyes

That's not a flaw, it's a feature to tell you to reload!
OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 10:10:12 AM
Originally Posted By mainfr4me:

Originally Posted By Shooterer:
I have had both the MK9 (steel) and the PM45 (plastic). I like both weapons and they were very accurate, reliable and easy to shoot. I traded them off when my interests changed (it happens often)

The only thing I did not like about both pistols was that 50% of the time the last case being ejected out of the mag would hit me right between the eyes

That's not a flaw, it's a feature to tell you to reload!




Interceptor_Knight  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 10:17:43 AM
Originally Posted By JakeThePimp:
Oh yeah, use the slide catch to release the slide (as it states in the owners manual). Pulling back on the side to chamber a round can cause it to hang.


They must be trying to address people easing the slide forward. Every time you fire a round the slide goes back and chambers a round, so if you do it properly and let it "snap", what would be the issue.?
bmwguy11  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 10:21:02 AM
We have to break in the wife's P380. Sounds like you need to come with us to daniel boone soon!
OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 11:20:04 AM
Originally Posted By bmwguy11:
We have to break in the wife's P380. Sounds like you need to come with us to daniel boone soon!


Just let me know when!

rfb45colt  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 4:06:55 PM
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
Originally Posted By rfb45colt:
Originally Posted By glenn_r:
I've had nothing but good experiences with the Kahr series. The P380 is too small for me, but the K9, CW9, and PM9 I have experience with have been great. Haven't run into problems with the mags, myself. But I do recommend carrying the spare mag in a pouch, because the top round isn't carried as securely as most other magazines. (Of course, pocket carry of any mag exposes it to lint, pocket grit, etc., so isn't good anyway.)

Let us know how it shoots.


I tried carrying spare mags for my CM9 in the smaller tool pocket of my carpenter jeans. I'd put an extended 7 rnd mag in there in the morning, and at the end of the day, I'd have 2 or 3 loose rounds of 9mm in my pocket, and only 4 or 5 still in the mag. Solution... I found some real nice belt-carry mag holders at Crossbreed Seconds.com. It's leather, made by Frontline (an Israeli corp) and it was only $15.

As for the OP about Kahrs, I've had the CM9 since 9/20/11, carried it every single day since 12/10/11, got about 400 rounds through it, and had zero problems (other than the spare mags "unloading" themselves in my pocket). The CM9 fits my big hands better with the extended mag than it does with the standard, so I bought two extended mag spares. Cheaper Than Dirt had the best price, just under $30. Don't know if yours will be like mine, and also 3 others that I know that have the CM9/CW9, but they like 147gr bullets the best, as far as hitting where aimed. 115gr bullets impact significantly lower than point of aim past 10 yds. 147s are right on the money. Never had to touch the sights with the 147s. Surprisingly accurate out to 25yds too. Needless to say, I've become a big Kahr fan.



So far I have ordered 2 spare mags (Not extended, the gun fits my hand well with the 7 capacity mags) and the HK 943 loader Jake recommended from Midway, while I found that CTD had them cheaper they were coming from 2 warehouses for the loader and mags and shipping was like $18. I put the same order in at Midway and shipping First Class Mail was just under $5. I was also looking at Crossbreed Seconds last night and saw some stuff I'll keep checking it. I think I'm just going to get the kydex half for my Minotaur as far as a holster. Thanks for all the help guys!



I bought my mag holder from crossbreed-seconds a couple months ago. I just checked their site... I guess they're all gone. There is one listed as "reserved" and that's it. The number on the reserved one is FL33, near the very bottom of the page. They're not "excellant", they're brand new, still in the bag. Frontline has their own website. It's listed there as a model FL3102. What I like about it is it holds the mags above the belt line, so they don't show as easy if wearing an untucked shirt and you bend over. What I don't like about it is it's wide, & takes up a lot of belt space.

OsirisX  [Team Member]
5/7/2012 5:19:58 PM
Originally Posted By rfb45colt:
Originally Posted By OsirisX:
Originally Posted By rfb45colt:
Originally Posted By glenn_r:
I've had nothing but good experiences with the Kahr series. The P380 is too small for me, but the K9, CW9, and PM9 I have experience with have been great. Haven't run into problems with the mags, myself. But I do recommend carrying the spare mag in a pouch, because the top round isn't carried as securely as most other magazines. (Of course, pocket carry of any mag exposes it to lint, pocket grit, etc., so isn't good anyway.)

Let us know how it shoots.


I tried carrying spare mags for my CM9 in the smaller tool pocket of my carpenter jeans. I'd put an extended 7 rnd mag in there in the morning, and at the end of the day, I'd have 2 or 3 loose rounds of 9mm in my pocket, and only 4 or 5 still in the mag. Solution... I found some real nice belt-carry mag holders at Crossbreed Seconds.com. It's leather, made by Frontline (an Israeli corp) and it was only $15.

As for the OP about Kahrs, I've had the CM9 since 9/20/11, carried it every single day since 12/10/11, got about 400 rounds through it, and had zero problems (other than the spare mags "unloading" themselves in my pocket). The CM9 fits my big hands better with the extended mag than it does with the standard, so I bought two extended mag spares. Cheaper Than Dirt had the best price, just under $30. Don't know if yours will be like mine, and also 3 others that I know that have the CM9/CW9, but they like 147gr bullets the best, as far as hitting where aimed. 115gr bullets impact significantly lower than point of aim past 10 yds. 147s are right on the money. Never had to touch the sights with the 147s. Surprisingly accurate out to 25yds too. Needless to say, I've become a big Kahr fan.



So far I have ordered 2 spare mags (Not extended, the gun fits my hand well with the 7 capacity mags) and the HK 943 loader Jake recommended from Midway, while I found that CTD had them cheaper they were coming from 2 warehouses for the loader and mags and shipping was like $18. I put the same order in at Midway and shipping First Class Mail was just under $5. I was also looking at Crossbreed Seconds last night and saw some stuff I'll keep checking it. I think I'm just going to get the kydex half for my Minotaur as far as a holster. Thanks for all the help guys!



I bought my mag holder from crossbreed-seconds a couple months ago. I just checked their site... I guess they're all gone. There is one listed as "reserved" and that's it. The number on the reserved one is FL33, near the very bottom of the page. They're not "excellant", they're brand new, still in the bag. Frontline has their own website. It's listed there as a model FL3102. What I like about it is it holds the mags above the belt line, so they don't show as easy if wearing an untucked shirt and you bend over. What I don't like about it is it's wide, & takes up a lot of belt space.



That's pretty much what I'd be looking for right there!