Looks like they caught the guys involved in the smash & grab at LnL

Where does the sodomy line start?

They're just misguided youth. They're all good boys according to their mothers.

Excellent! I hope they all get lengthy stays in FPYITAP.

Donna Street Crips? Thought they were long gone.

Lets see, 21 x 5 = 105 years each of Fed. time.
21 x $50,000 = $1,050,000 each in fines.

Yep, I want them doing Fed. time, on the Fed dime.

More likely the Fed. will leave it to the state and county, again.
Result, 5 - 10, at the Nevada citizens expense.
Out in 2 - 5 with "Good behavior" credit.

BATFE will then announce the need to implement additional rules for gun dealers to deal with the "crises" of stolen guns in the hands of career criminals.

If the Fed. are not going to fully enforce the law against these thugs for some reason, most likely having to do with PC, we may as well repeal the relevant laws!

If you know Donna Street , it ain't the Hell hole it used to be, but Its still pretty shitty. I'm sure there is still still a group keeping the name, just like gpk, cindy sue and others.ETA, I'm glad they caught the "suspects".

How many of the guns did they recover? (maybe I missed it in the story)

I forgot to ask that little tid-bit, BTW, cute pup.

Thanks! I hadn't checked that thread. Yours too!

"Federal authorities have charged four reputed gang members"

I rarely see the Feds dismiss a case to give it to the state. It happens more often the other way around. Regarding federal prison time, most serve 80-85% of their time. Parole has been abolished.

Reading the comments after the RJ article, it's clear that many people don't realize the difficulties that exist in putting a case together and through trial. Plea bargains give you convictions ; trials are a toss up and you can't always know what I'll happen with your jury.

If I recall, I read the story yesterday, 21 stolen, 16 recovered

The Gerson Park thing cracks me up too, considering Gerson Park is long gone and is all tract homes now. We were just talking about it at work last night. When I told my boss these shitheads claimed Donna Street, he laughed and said "What, were the suspects in their forties?"

Thanks, I didn't see that in the linked article. Wish they could have recovered them all though.

The bad thing about bulldozing the projects and other "known" areas is the gangs are far more mobile now, and are spread throughout the valley. Another change is these guys alter allegiances easily and readily as well; one guy can be a Crip, Squad, Blood, etc. "Hood Hopping" doesn't have the negative connotation that it used to. And GPK, Donna, 60s, etc. are all alive and well, with numerous young members around town. The Metro officer that was killed in his house was attacked by members of "The Wood" gang, comprised of the sons/nephews of GPKs and 60s. You can't just go to one area and make your arrests; you have to find them in Summerlin, Green Valley, and other nicer areas.

While it would be nice to see them all recovered, it is really impressive that they got so many back.

I imagine this is an insurance claim that has long been settled, however, will these guns eventually make their way back to LnL? How does that work?

I doubt I would ever knowingly buy any of these recovered guns, even at a remarkably low price.

I do not trust every LE agency in the country to keep their records up to date so that a buyer never faces the possibility of arrest for possessing stolen property.
With some gun still not recovered, the chance of error is even greater.

Strip them for parts, scrap the frames.

GPK and Donna streeet are still around, Donna Street is one of the more dangerous gangs becuase it became one fo the Hybrids(white black latino blood white fence MS13 DBC crips)....

Plus at least one was recovered during a homocide investigation, bad juju

You would be amazed how many stolen/impounded guns are sold by some agencies. Don't know any in NV that do it, but there are dealers on this website that do sell them. Despite your hatred of blue cards, registering the gun is a pretty good way to make sure it isn't stolen.

The feculent "Blue Card" may have some trifling value in LV, but they are of NO use elsewhere.

I already know of several instances of guns being taken as "Stolen" as the SN# appeared in a data-base.
LE involved could not be bothered to note that the brand, model, barrel length, finish, etc. were very different.
Sometimes numbers repeat with a new suffix or prefix.

So I already know for certain that some departments do better at checking records than others.
As I said, I would not KNOWINGLY buy any of these recovered guns.

As soon as a gun is located, it is removed. It isn't some great conspiracy or anything else. The biggest issue is that serial numbers were used by the same manufacturers for similar models. You also have the other side where the victim provides a serial and model for the gun they think they had. Very few victims have a clue what they owned. That is where the real problem comes into play.

Not really, it's only a good way if the system has processed it as being stolen & isn't caught up in the paperwork process. Also lazy owners who don't report it stolen right away. My dad bought a 10/22 as a gift for my sister 5 months ago. Police came and collected the gun when it was processed (after 6 months) as stolen. Gun shop in good faith gave him a new 10/22.

There are no guarantees. Blue card system is broken. Old registrations aren't even removed when someone moves or a gun is sold to a new owner

Eta: The process to have a gun removed from the system is apparently lengthy even with proof that ownership has been rescinded or moved out of jurisdiction. Was that you Richard that posted the step by step & time line of said process?

I think it was gunmonkey that went through the system to get a gun removed when he moved back up north.

Using your statements, are you saying you would never buy a used gun? There is minimal paperwork for entering a firearm. I spent more time in this response than it would take to do the entry. So, your paranoia over the LnL guns is unnecessary, when you consider there are more guns stolen from owners than any FFL. I would be more paranoid about a fudd not knowing the right serial number and creating a bad entry.

Either way, it would be an insurance company that likely owns the once stolen firearms. I have yet to see a sale at Allstate though! The crusher may be their final fate.

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