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6/11/2012 2:41:00 PM
Going for E.W. Jackson myself.
6/11/2012 4:56:04 PM
Originally Posted By lonewarrior:
Going for E.W. Jackson myself.
Going for E.W. Jackson myself.
Genuinely curious, why?
I've been reading about all of them, and truthfully, am feeling cool toward all of them. Help me find a reason to get excited, please.
6/11/2012 5:00:00 PM
I really don't like any of the 4 Senate candidates, though for different reasons in each case. Cantor is obviously going to win the 7th District but I hope the other guy at least gets a decent number to remind Cantor that he needs to be more conservative on money issues.
6/11/2012 5:26:17 PM
I'm working at the polls tomorrow as an "Officer of Election". It's going to be a long-assed day.....5AM until about 930PM. I'll be working at the smallest precinct in Loudoun County. Less than 150 registered voters, and the expected turnout is about 5%. So if we're lucky, we'll have about 8 voters show up. I'll have to take my laptop along, with a supply of DVDs. But no beer. Too bad.
6/11/2012 5:28:59 PM
RADTKE
6/11/2012 5:45:07 PM
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
RADTKE
RADTKE
Again, why?
What about her makes you feel that she is the best one for the job at this moment?
6/11/2012 7:53:30 PM
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Again, why?
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
RADTKE
RADTKE
Again, why?
What about her makes you feel that she is the best one for the job at this moment?
This.
6/11/2012 8:12:52 PM
Going to vote Democrat so I can vote against Moron, whoever it is.
6/11/2012 8:19:14 PM
That's a House race...
All in all, I'm not sure that you have the wrong approach. However, those opposing Moran are even bigger dingbats than he is, and I'm not seeing a strong candidate to oppose either Moran or whoever else comes out of the primary.
I'm thinking that a Senate win in VA for the GOP is more effective this go round; so, who can we all rally behind to defeat the Dems for the Senate seat?
6/11/2012 8:21:31 PM
George Allen.
6/11/2012 8:22:47 PM
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
6/11/2012 8:33:03 PM
Originally Posted By wmounts:
One more time...
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
6/11/2012 8:43:56 PM
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed "Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
One more time...
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed "Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Good answer, although seemingly directly from the Allen campaign material. All of the candidates appear very strong on gun rights. What about the other issues, and what about the ability to win the election in Nov.? Allen didn't perform that well last time. FWIW, I met him last fall at a local outing, and do like the man. But, what about HIM makes him the best choice of the four for Virginia, right NOW?
6/11/2012 8:55:59 PM
I'm truly at a loss for tomorrow.
I like Allen and spent a lot of time on his run for Governor years ago. His last Senate campaign just blew my mind with his stupid mistakes and the how poorly they ran it. Part of me wants to support him just as an anti-Washington Post vote.
Radtke and Jackson seem solid. I like what I've heard from them, but I'm not exactly passionate about them. I'm leaning toward Radtke, but will probably just flip a coin tomorrow.
For those thinking about voting in the commie primary to try to oust Moran, Moran's challenger is even more of a professional jerk.
I like Allen and spent a lot of time on his run for Governor years ago. His last Senate campaign just blew my mind with his stupid mistakes and the how poorly they ran it. Part of me wants to support him just as an anti-Washington Post vote.
Radtke and Jackson seem solid. I like what I've heard from them, but I'm not exactly passionate about them. I'm leaning toward Radtke, but will probably just flip a coin tomorrow.
For those thinking about voting in the commie primary to try to oust Moran, Moran's challenger is even more of a professional jerk.
6/11/2012 8:57:39 PM
Good answer, although seemingly directly from the Allen campaign material.
Yes, copied and pasted from his page. I admit to being lazy.
I liked him as gov, also senator. He would have won last time but for the macaca thing that was beat to death by the WAPO. I am OK with any conservative candidate, I bet one of them can beat Kaine. I am rooting for you guys- remember I am stuck for life with Rockefeller and Manchin.
6/11/2012 9:28:48 PM
Originally Posted By YoungGOP:
This.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Again, why?
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
RADTKE
RADTKE
Again, why?
What about her makes you feel that she is the best one for the job at this moment?
This.
Because I am sick and tired of party line politicians. We need another line towing republican like a fish needs a bicycle.
6/11/2012 9:48:24 PM
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
Because I am sick and tired of party line politicians. We need another line towing republican like a fish needs a bicycle.
Originally Posted By YoungGOP:
This.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Again, why?
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
RADTKE
RADTKE
Again, why?
What about her makes you feel that she is the best one for the job at this moment?
This.
Because I am sick and tired of party line politicians. We need another line towing republican like a fish needs a bicycle.
Again, sincere question, what about her makes you feel like she is different?
I'm asking for opinions and nuances here (to anyone who cares to respond), because after reading all the material on all of them, I don't perceive much of a difference between a) the candidates themselves, and b) the general cookie-cutter candidates that the VA GOP keeps offering.
I WANT to be wrong; show me that I am - I WANT to be FOR someone, not just against Kaine/Dems.
ETA: I feel exactly the same as you re: "party line politicians". That's why I'm looking for someone with a plan, and an edge.
6/11/2012 10:09:45 PM
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Again, sincere question, what about her makes you feel like she is different?
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
Because I am sick and tired of party line politicians. We need another line towing republican like a fish needs a bicycle.
Originally Posted By YoungGOP:
This.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Again, why?
Originally Posted By GlocksareGood:
RADTKE
RADTKE
Again, why?
What about her makes you feel that she is the best one for the job at this moment?
This.
Because I am sick and tired of party line politicians. We need another line towing republican like a fish needs a bicycle.
Again, sincere question, what about her makes you feel like she is different?
I'm asking for opinions and nuances here (to anyone who cares to respond), because after reading all the material on all of them, I don't perceive much of a difference between a) the candidates themselves, and b) the general cookie-cutter candidates that the VA GOP keeps offering.
I WANT to be wrong; show me that I am - I WANT to be FOR someone, not just against Kaine/Dems.
ETA: I feel exactly the same as you re: "party line politicians". That's why I'm looking for someone with a plan, and an edge.
Because she actually stood for something, not because the party said she should or because she was going to get rich from it but because she believed it was right. Jamie played a huge part in the Richmond and even the VA state Tea Party from the beginning and never quit up till the decided to run for the senate. I have meet her, talked to her and I believe she is is the closest to my beliefs.
6/11/2012 10:46:13 PM
Radtke.
Allen doesn't believe in a limited, smaller federal .gov and Radtke does.
I also don't have any faith that he won't make another stupid mistake if he gets in office that will put another democrat in office afterwards.
Allen doesn't believe in a limited, smaller federal .gov and Radtke does.
I also don't have any faith that he won't make another stupid mistake if he gets in office that will put another democrat in office afterwards.
6/12/2012 1:40:13 AM
Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Radtke.
Allen doesn't believe in a limited, smaller federal .gov and Radtke does.
I also don't have any faith that he won't make another stupid mistake if he gets in office that will put another democrat in office afterwards.
Radtke.
Allen doesn't believe in a limited, smaller federal .gov and Radtke does.
I also don't have any faith that he won't make another stupid mistake if he gets in office that will put another democrat in office afterwards.
I almost didn't recognize you, have you done something different with your hair?
6/12/2012 4:58:44 AM
Cut and paste as well. Several of her items intrigue me (she has a carry permit). The first section relate to RADTKE in bold, the second ALLEN:
Jamie Radtke vs. George Allen on the Issues
Experience
Co-founder of VA Tea Party Federation
Former president of Richmond Tea Party
Co-founder, Restore the Founders’ Vision
Served Sen. Helms, Foreign Rel. Comm.
Career politician
30-years in the establishment
Owner of a Washington lobbying firm
Makes weekly NFL picks on DC radio station.
National Debt
Opposed all debt ceiling increases during Allen and Webb Senate terms
Favors spending cuts to balance budget
Wants to cap spending as a percentage of GDP
Voted FOR 4 debt ceiling increases as senator, increasing federal debt limit 50% in just 6 years
Voiced support for Obama’s debt ceiling increase
Voted to add $3.1 trillion in new debt, which was over a billion dollars for each day he was in office(3/21/06)
Spending
Opposes pork spending earmarks
Opposed ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ earmark
Opposed ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ $
Thinks Allen should be ashamed of his earmarks, rather than boast about them
Voted for 40,000 Senate earmarks ($90 Billion)
Voted for, against, and for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’
Voted for ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ earmark
Told Richmond Times Dispatch, “Every single earmark I’ve gotten, I’m proud of.” (3/21/06)
Education
Believes education is state/local issue
Will vote to eliminate Federal DOE
Opposed Ted Kennedy’s education bill
Voted for expanded federal role in education
Voted for massive spending increases for DOE
Backed Ted Kennedy’s ‘No Child Left Behind’ bill
Entitlements
Opposed Medicare Part D entitlement
Voted FOR Medicare Part D entitlement in Senate
Subsidies
Opposes crony capitalism
Believes in free market principles
Rejects government-backed businesses
Backed ethanol subsidies, driving up gas prices
Supported taxpayer funding for sugar farmers
Backed farm bill that pays farmers NOT to farm
U.N. Agenda 21
Opposes at every level of government
Sponsored “national heritage area” legislation
Human Events: a “property rights betrayal.”
Right to Life
Opposes abortion (no exceptions)
Opposes abortifacient drugs like MAP
Opposes any research on human embryos
Supports abortion prior to fetal viability
Invested $250k in Morning After Pill (MAP) maker
Supports some research on human embryos
Hate Crimes
Opposes all hate crimes legislation because it violates Constitution’s “Equal Protection” clause
Signed ‘hate crimes’ legislation as governor
Voted to add ‘sexual orientation’ to federal ‘hate crimes’ categories as senator in 2004
2nd Amendment
Opposes limits on law-abiding citizens
Holds a concealed handgun permit
Voiced support for Clinton-Feinstein ban in 2000
Waffled on one-gun-a-month rationing scheme
Politics
Fought to oust RINO’s as Political Director for ‘Virginia Conservative Action PAC’
Supported Arlen Specter against conservative Pat Toomey in GOP nomination contest in 2004
Jamie Radtke vs. George Allen on the Issues
Experience
Co-founder of VA Tea Party Federation
Former president of Richmond Tea Party
Co-founder, Restore the Founders’ Vision
Served Sen. Helms, Foreign Rel. Comm.
Career politician
30-years in the establishment
Owner of a Washington lobbying firm
Makes weekly NFL picks on DC radio station.
National Debt
Opposed all debt ceiling increases during Allen and Webb Senate terms
Favors spending cuts to balance budget
Wants to cap spending as a percentage of GDP
Voted FOR 4 debt ceiling increases as senator, increasing federal debt limit 50% in just 6 years
Voiced support for Obama’s debt ceiling increase
Voted to add $3.1 trillion in new debt, which was over a billion dollars for each day he was in office(3/21/06)
Spending
Opposes pork spending earmarks
Opposed ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ earmark
Opposed ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ $
Thinks Allen should be ashamed of his earmarks, rather than boast about them
Voted for 40,000 Senate earmarks ($90 Billion)
Voted for, against, and for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’
Voted for ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ earmark
Told Richmond Times Dispatch, “Every single earmark I’ve gotten, I’m proud of.” (3/21/06)
Education
Believes education is state/local issue
Will vote to eliminate Federal DOE
Opposed Ted Kennedy’s education bill
Voted for expanded federal role in education
Voted for massive spending increases for DOE
Backed Ted Kennedy’s ‘No Child Left Behind’ bill
Entitlements
Opposed Medicare Part D entitlement
Voted FOR Medicare Part D entitlement in Senate
Subsidies
Opposes crony capitalism
Believes in free market principles
Rejects government-backed businesses
Backed ethanol subsidies, driving up gas prices
Supported taxpayer funding for sugar farmers
Backed farm bill that pays farmers NOT to farm
U.N. Agenda 21
Opposes at every level of government
Sponsored “national heritage area” legislation
Human Events: a “property rights betrayal.”
Right to Life
Opposes abortion (no exceptions)
Opposes abortifacient drugs like MAP
Opposes any research on human embryos
Supports abortion prior to fetal viability
Invested $250k in Morning After Pill (MAP) maker
Supports some research on human embryos
Hate Crimes
Opposes all hate crimes legislation because it violates Constitution’s “Equal Protection” clause
Signed ‘hate crimes’ legislation as governor
Voted to add ‘sexual orientation’ to federal ‘hate crimes’ categories as senator in 2004
2nd Amendment
Opposes limits on law-abiding citizens
Holds a concealed handgun permit
Voiced support for Clinton-Feinstein ban in 2000
Waffled on one-gun-a-month rationing scheme
Politics
Fought to oust RINO’s as Political Director for ‘Virginia Conservative Action PAC’
Supported Arlen Specter against conservative Pat Toomey in GOP nomination contest in 2004
6/12/2012 7:48:15 AM
Originally Posted By Arms_Reach:
I almost didn't recognize you, have you done something different with your hair?
Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Radtke.
Allen doesn't believe in a limited, smaller federal .gov and Radtke does.
I also don't have any faith that he won't make another stupid mistake if he gets in office that will put another democrat in office afterwards.
Radtke.
Allen doesn't believe in a limited, smaller federal .gov and Radtke does.
I also don't have any faith that he won't make another stupid mistake if he gets in office that will put another democrat in office afterwards.
I almost didn't recognize you, have you done something different with your hair?
For real, I only realized that it was him posting when I saw your quote. Damn, we are creatures of habit, aren't we??
6/12/2012 7:59:00 AM
Originally Posted By GlockSlap:
Cut and paste as well. Several of her items intrigue me (she has a carry permit). The first section relate to RADTKE in bold, the second ALLEN:
Jamie Radtke vs. George Allen on the Issues
...
Cut and paste as well. Several of her items intrigue me (she has a carry permit). The first section relate to RADTKE in bold, the second ALLEN:
Jamie Radtke vs. George Allen on the Issues
...
'Slap, thank you for this breakdown.
Your opinion (and anyone else who would care to opine), please: Should she get into office, what is she going to work on, where will her priorities lie?
My bias: IMO, the country is circling the drain with a steadily increasing vortex rate. I would prefer that issues regarding spending and liberty take precedence; my readings of her statements (both on her web page and other interviews) seem to indicate that the standard Republican social issues might be a front-burner issue for her. That, again IMO, is NOT what Virginia, nor the rest of the nation, needs to be working on these days, IF AT ALL.
from her campaign website
JAMIE RADTKE WILL:
 Oppose raising the federal debt ceiling.
 End unsustainable federal deficits by cutting trillions and capping spending as a percentage of
GDP.
 Work for meaningful, courageous reform of entitlement programs.
 Support the intrinsic right to life.
 Protect and uphold the traditional family.
 Defend the 2nd Amendment.
 Fight to eliminate government subsidies.
 Advocate for energy independent policies that bring down the price of gas.
 Oppose illegal immigration.
 Propose a fairer, flatter tax to grow jobs.
ETA: It seems as if all the current candidates have a strong proclivity toward working on social issues as part of their platform.
6/12/2012 9:39:47 AM
1. Earmarks are not bad. It is the Officials abusing them that are the problem. If you all had to deal with the dingbat bureaucrats over at the government agencies, who choose from Washington, where a road is going to go in Missouri, you might have a different opinion (that's right folks, that money still gets spent somewhere).
2. My reason for voting for George Allen is that he is a TEAM builder. He works for Republican candidates up-and-down the ticket, and has done so successfully for a number of years. Especially at the state level (seems like we're doing alright there, eh?).
3. Finally, at this time I do not believe Radtke, or anyone besides Allen for that matter, has the campaign experience necessary to mount a serious challenge against someone like Tim Kaine. Do you all realize that a Democrat in Virginia, in the midst of a not so favorable climate for democrats, has favorability ratings at nearly 50%? Capture that with the fact that Kaine is killing it with independents, and the issue is now that we need someone who can mount a serious challenge to him in November.
Vote for your candidate of choice today, but please think about helping out with the November election once the time comes.
6/12/2012 10:07:30 AM
My vote for the Rep. race was an easy one: A SOPA Co-Sponsor is up for re-election. Bills like that should be political suicide...
6/12/2012 10:30:43 AM
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
One more time...
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
6/12/2012 11:05:34 AM
Originally Posted By Hard_Rock:
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
One more time...
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
That's the George Allen I know.
Fuck him.
6/12/2012 11:31:06 AM
Originally Posted By Hard_Rock:
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
One more time...
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
I knew you would show up and give us the word.
TR
6/12/2012 1:54:48 PM
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I'm still on the fence.
6/12/2012 2:56:19 PM
6/12/2012 4:04:41 PM
Originally Posted By MDracer76:
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
But a baby comprised of its own individual genetics doesn't. Yes, that is weird.
6/12/2012 4:35:34 PM
Thanks for reminding me the primary was today. Just got back from voting. First time I've actually voted in person; kinda cool.
6/12/2012 5:00:56 PM
Originally Posted By MDracer76:
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
6/12/2012 6:21:26 PM
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
Originally Posted By MDracer76:
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
+1 for "I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway."
6/12/2012 6:40:39 PM
Originally Posted By GlockSlap:
Cut and paste as well. Several of her items intrigue me (she has a carry permit). The first section relate to RADTKE in bold, the second ALLEN:
Jamie Radtke vs. George Allen on the Issues
Experience
Co-founder of VA Tea Party Federation
Former president of Richmond Tea Party
Co-founder, Restore the Founders’ Vision
Served Sen. Helms, Foreign Rel. Comm.
Career politician
30-years in the establishment
Owner of a Washington lobbying firm
Makes weekly NFL picks on DC radio station.
National Debt
Opposed all debt ceiling increases during Allen and Webb Senate terms
Favors spending cuts to balance budget
Wants to cap spending as a percentage of GDP
Voted FOR 4 debt ceiling increases as senator, increasing federal debt limit 50% in just 6 years
Voiced support for Obama’s debt ceiling increase
Voted to add $3.1 trillion in new debt, which was over a billion dollars for each day he was in office(3/21/06)
Spending
Opposes pork spending earmarks
Opposed ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ earmark
Opposed ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ $
Thinks Allen should be ashamed of his earmarks, rather than boast about them
Voted for 40,000 Senate earmarks ($90 Billion)
Voted for, against, and for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’
Voted for ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ earmark
Told Richmond Times Dispatch, “Every single earmark I’ve gotten, I’m proud of.” (3/21/06)
Education
Believes education is state/local issue
Will vote to eliminate Federal DOE
Opposed Ted Kennedy’s education bill
Voted for expanded federal role in education
Voted for massive spending increases for DOE
Backed Ted Kennedy’s ‘No Child Left Behind’ bill
Entitlements
Opposed Medicare Part D entitlement
Voted FOR Medicare Part D entitlement in Senate
Subsidies
Opposes crony capitalism
Believes in free market principles
Rejects government-backed businesses
Backed ethanol subsidies, driving up gas prices
Supported taxpayer funding for sugar farmers
Backed farm bill that pays farmers NOT to farm
U.N. Agenda 21
Opposes at every level of government
Sponsored “national heritage area” legislation
Human Events: a “property rights betrayal.”
Right to Life
Opposes abortion (no exceptions)
Opposes abortifacient drugs like MAP
Opposes any research on human embryos
Supports abortion prior to fetal viability
Invested $250k in Morning After Pill (MAP) maker
Supports some research on human embryos
Hate Crimes
Opposes all hate crimes legislation because it violates Constitution’s “Equal Protection” clause
Signed ‘hate crimes’ legislation as governor
Voted to add ‘sexual orientation’ to federal ‘hate crimes’ categories as senator in 2004
2nd Amendment
Opposes limits on law-abiding citizens
Holds a concealed handgun permit
Voiced support for Clinton-Feinstein ban in 2000
Waffled on one-gun-a-month rationing scheme
Politics
Fought to oust RINO’s as Political Director for ‘Virginia Conservative Action PAC’
Supported Arlen Specter against conservative Pat Toomey in GOP nomination contest in 2004
Cut and paste as well. Several of her items intrigue me (she has a carry permit). The first section relate to RADTKE in bold, the second ALLEN:
Jamie Radtke vs. George Allen on the Issues
Experience
Co-founder of VA Tea Party Federation
Former president of Richmond Tea Party
Co-founder, Restore the Founders’ Vision
Served Sen. Helms, Foreign Rel. Comm.
Career politician
30-years in the establishment
Owner of a Washington lobbying firm
Makes weekly NFL picks on DC radio station.
National Debt
Opposed all debt ceiling increases during Allen and Webb Senate terms
Favors spending cuts to balance budget
Wants to cap spending as a percentage of GDP
Voted FOR 4 debt ceiling increases as senator, increasing federal debt limit 50% in just 6 years
Voiced support for Obama’s debt ceiling increase
Voted to add $3.1 trillion in new debt, which was over a billion dollars for each day he was in office(3/21/06)
Spending
Opposes pork spending earmarks
Opposed ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ earmark
Opposed ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ $
Thinks Allen should be ashamed of his earmarks, rather than boast about them
Voted for 40,000 Senate earmarks ($90 Billion)
Voted for, against, and for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’
Voted for ‘Iowa Tropical Rain Forest’ earmark
Told Richmond Times Dispatch, “Every single earmark I’ve gotten, I’m proud of.” (3/21/06)
Education
Believes education is state/local issue
Will vote to eliminate Federal DOE
Opposed Ted Kennedy’s education bill
Voted for expanded federal role in education
Voted for massive spending increases for DOE
Backed Ted Kennedy’s ‘No Child Left Behind’ bill
Entitlements
Opposed Medicare Part D entitlement
Voted FOR Medicare Part D entitlement in Senate
Subsidies
Opposes crony capitalism
Believes in free market principles
Rejects government-backed businesses
Backed ethanol subsidies, driving up gas prices
Supported taxpayer funding for sugar farmers
Backed farm bill that pays farmers NOT to farm
U.N. Agenda 21
Opposes at every level of government
Sponsored “national heritage area” legislation
Human Events: a “property rights betrayal.”
Right to Life
Opposes abortion (no exceptions)
Opposes abortifacient drugs like MAP
Opposes any research on human embryos
Supports abortion prior to fetal viability
Invested $250k in Morning After Pill (MAP) maker
Supports some research on human embryos
Hate Crimes
Opposes all hate crimes legislation because it violates Constitution’s “Equal Protection” clause
Signed ‘hate crimes’ legislation as governor
Voted to add ‘sexual orientation’ to federal ‘hate crimes’ categories as senator in 2004
2nd Amendment
Opposes limits on law-abiding citizens
Holds a concealed handgun permit
Voiced support for Clinton-Feinstein ban in 2000
Waffled on one-gun-a-month rationing scheme
Politics
Fought to oust RINO’s as Political Director for ‘Virginia Conservative Action PAC’
Supported Arlen Specter against conservative Pat Toomey in GOP nomination contest in 2004
Radtke has my vote. Thanks for posting this.
6/12/2012 7:17:13 PM
+1 for Radtke
6/12/2012 7:25:34 PM
I was voter #107 at my place around 4:20pm. Wow, less than 1% voter turnout so far.
Results
George F. Allen 27,880 64.38% Precincts Reporting:
561 of 2,578 (21.76%)
Voter Turnout:
43,299 of 4,719,348 active voters (0.917%)
43,299 of 5,198,406 total voters (0.832%) Votes by County/City
Votes by District
Jamie L. Radtke 11,231 25.93%
R. G. "Bob" Marshall 2,185 5.04%
E. W. Jackson 2,003 4.62%
Results
George F. Allen 27,880 64.38% Precincts Reporting:
561 of 2,578 (21.76%)
Voter Turnout:
43,299 of 4,719,348 active voters (0.917%)
43,299 of 5,198,406 total voters (0.832%) Votes by County/City
Votes by District
Jamie L. Radtke 11,231 25.93%
R. G. "Bob" Marshall 2,185 5.04%
E. W. Jackson 2,003 4.62%
6/12/2012 7:31:41 PM
Originally Posted By 7:
I was voter #107 at my place around 4:20pm. Wow, less than 1% voter turnout so far.
Results
George F. Allen 27,880 64.38% Precincts Reporting:
561 of 2,578 (21.76%)
Voter Turnout:
43,299 of 4,719,348 active voters (0.917%)
43,299 of 5,198,406 total voters (0.832%) Votes by County/City
Votes by District
Jamie L. Radtke 11,231 25.93%
R. G. "Bob" Marshall 2,185 5.04%
E. W. Jackson 2,003 4.62%
I was voter #107 at my place around 4:20pm. Wow, less than 1% voter turnout so far.
Results
George F. Allen 27,880 64.38% Precincts Reporting:
561 of 2,578 (21.76%)
Voter Turnout:
43,299 of 4,719,348 active voters (0.917%)
43,299 of 5,198,406 total voters (0.832%) Votes by County/City
Votes by District
Jamie L. Radtke 11,231 25.93%
R. G. "Bob" Marshall 2,185 5.04%
E. W. Jackson 2,003 4.62%
I was #84 at around 10:20 in my polling location.
6/12/2012 8:43:31 PM
#90 at 4:30.
6/13/2012 12:10:34 AM
Originally Posted By 1911SFOREVER:
+1 for "I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway."
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
Originally Posted By MDracer76:
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
+1 for "I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway."
+1.. I ended up voting for her as well for the same reasons..
But it looks like Allen is in.
Not trying to start that kind of thread either.. but I firmly believe in liberty over unborn life.
6/13/2012 7:36:46 AM
I was # 18 at 6:30 pm.
6/13/2012 8:23:41 AM
Well....I was at the polls all day. From 5AM until 855PM. There are 155 registered voters in the precinct I worked, and 7 of them showed up to vote.
Here's the score:
Allen - 3
Marshal - 3
Radtke - 1
Here's the score:
Allen - 3
Marshal - 3
Radtke - 1
6/13/2012 10:08:49 AM
Radtke was our best hope, we as a state failed our country yesterday. Allen is an establishment republican, you only vote for one of them when there is no other choice. They are not conservative, they are simply less liberal than the dems.
6/13/2012 12:57:08 PM
Originally Posted By The_Rock:
I knew you would show up and give us the word.
TR
Originally Posted By Hard_Rock:
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Originally Posted By wmounts:
One more time...
Originally Posted By DougR:
George Allen.
George Allen.
One more time...
Why?
George Allen has been a leader for more than three decades in defending our Second Amendment rights, earning an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association. As Governor of Virginia and as U.S. Senator, he strongly supported the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families, which includes their Constitutional right to own and carry firearms.
As our Governor in 1995, he worked for and signed “Right to Carry” concealed weapons legislation entitling any citizen 21 or older with no criminal record to a concealed carry permit.
Don't trust a word out of his lying mouth. I met George Allen at an event in Sterling, Va and had a chance to talk with him and he's NOT a friend to gun owners. He'll be pro-gun as long as it'll get him where he wants to go. He's not one of us, and never has been. Voting for him will be a mistake.
He supported the AW ban. He was against repeal of the restaurant ban. He wanted severe restrictions on carry. He also mentioned he wanted conceal carry permit holders to qualify every 6 months. But of course, none of that is on his campaign site as those views will hurt him now.
I knew you would show up and give us the word.
TR
Two rocks were sitting around chatting....
sorry, couldn't help it.
6/13/2012 1:06:16 PM
Originally Posted By MDracer76:
+1.. I ended up voting for her as well for the same reasons..
But it looks like Allen is in.
Not trying to start that kind of thread either.. but I firmly believe in liberty over unborn life.
Originally Posted By 1911SFOREVER:
+1 for "I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway."
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
Originally Posted By MDracer76:
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I'm OK with Radke on everything except for her abortion stance. I'm weird in believing that I own my own body, and women should as well.
I'm still on the fence.
I don't want to start an abortion/religion war in the Virginia HTF (there are enough of those in GD), but this is exactly how I feel. I'm not comfortable with what I view as her radical stance on that issue, including her belief that things like the morning after pill should be banned. I'm also a little weirded out by Liberty University and anyone who went there. Otherwise I like her positions.
I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway.
+1 for "I voted for her anyway because I think Allen is a bumbling idiot career political hack and I don't think she will have any effect on abortion anyway."
+1.. I ended up voting for her as well for the same reasons..
But it looks like Allen is in.
Not trying to start that kind of thread either.. but I firmly believe in liberty over unborn life.
While I suspect God disagrees with you (yes, I went there), the happy medium for our diverse society is somewhere in the middle.
I have a problem with late term abortions and abortion as a form of birth control. I do not have a problem with abortion as a response to rape, incest, health risk to the mother or mercy to the unborn child. It is unfortunate that the government has to be involved in this issue at all. IMO, they need to decide whether abortion is murder or not. If it is then it should come with a manslaughter charge. If it's not, then they should stay out of the issue and stop trying to legislate morality.
6/13/2012 2:13:19 PM
Allan isn't terrible, but he is the establishment and not the leader some believe. Why do people let abortion be one the prevailing matters every election? This country is in dire straits and we want to get caught in this smoke screen
6/13/2012 3:26:56 PM
Bonnie Girard couldn't even crack 10%.
That's a pisser.
That's a pisser.