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 I-70 to become toll road?
Bassgasm  [Team Member]
1/22/2012 7:26:47 PM EST
Summary: I-70 is aging, and there's different options to update it with price tags ranging from $2B to $4B. The tolls would start at the 470 interchange in Independence and end at the 40-61 interchange in Wentzville. The proposed rate is 10-15 cents a mile.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/18/3377955/missouri-lawmakers-consider-tolls.html
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thefreshman991  [Team Member]
1/22/2012 7:33:42 PM EST
I don't travel it up there but as long as its privatized with a toll I'd be ok with that not for it to remain in state control and charge us for something we pay taxes for already.
SShockwave  [Member]
1/22/2012 7:59:45 PM EST
Missouri doesn't do toll roads. They said the same thing about rebuilding 40/64 through St. Louis yet magically they found the money to completely shut down tear up and re-bridge a 15 mile section through the heart of the city.
cheapsandwich  [Member]
1/22/2012 8:03:48 PM EST
From what they said on the news, Modot guy is recommending toll but it would require voter approval.
1911smith  [Team Member]
1/22/2012 8:48:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
From what they said on the news, Modot guy is recommending toll but it would require voter approval.


Voter approval, that cinches it won't happen.

Toll will be paid at the pump. Increased fuel tax for trucks and road tax for anything on pneumatic tires with a tail pipe.

They need a debate over tolls to pave way for increased road revenues. This is nothing new. MODOT has been meeting with town halls for close to a decade now, Back then it was speculated construction was twenty years out. This leaves ten years and counting down. Property owners adjoining I-70 have anticipated this for a while.

S1ug  [Member]
1/22/2012 9:03:09 PM EST
i do my best to avoid that death-way they call an interstate, if they make it pay-per-use i will avoid it like the plague. It really irks me that they are going to tax me then charge me again for something i already pay for.
chumpmiester  [Member]
1/23/2012 4:52:15 AM EST
I remember when they were talking about building a new interstate parallel to I70, that idea didn't go anywhere either. If 70 is turned into a toll road, guess I'll take the service road when I go to Columbia or St Peters.
cheapsandwich  [Member]
1/23/2012 5:14:39 AM EST
? How much money did they waste with all those round-abouts in the middle of no where that tractor trailers can't even make the turn in.
GUNGUY148  [Team Member]
1/23/2012 5:53:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
? How much money did they waste with all those round-abouts in the middle of no where that tractor trailers can't even make the turn in.


Oh shit I thought it was just the dumbass towns around here doing them, I didn't know it was a plague of them. The only good thing about traffic circles is on my motorcycle if I hit it hard enough the foot peg will lay sparks all the way around it
kbailey  [Member]
1/23/2012 6:23:44 AM EST
Toll road huh? Guess I'll be taking the back roads home from Indiana. I would be interested to see the cost estimates for new construction and existing road maintenance vs fuel tax revenue.
EaZeNuTZ33  [Team Member]
1/23/2012 7:37:35 AM EST
reports so far are that they do not need voter approval for this to go through........


......I have some proposed legislation...if its privatized and becomes a toll road, state troopers need to keep off of it and the speed limit needs to be removed, leave it privatized as a toll road and police may only entire the highway in emergency situations....for which they can bill the drivers involved or their insurance for the emergency call on a privatized roadway.


.....otherwise, find the money in the current budget....you know, somewhere between all the stupid pet projects you waste our tax dollars on constantly....
Noaccount  [Team Member]
1/23/2012 8:24:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By EaZeNuTZ33:
reports so far are that they do not need voter approval for this to go through........


......I have some proposed legislation...if its privatized and becomes a toll road, state troopers need to keep off of it and the speed limit needs to be removed, leave it privatized as a toll road and police may only entire the highway in emergency situations....for which they can bill the drivers involved or their insurance for the emergency call on a privatized roadway.


.....otherwise, find the money in the current budget....you know, somewhere between all the stupid pet projects you waste our tax dollars on constantly....

I don't think they need to privatize it, they need to look at the KTA (kansas) model and basically copy it letter for letter. Kansas' is self-sustaining including funding a separate division of KHP to patrol the road.
Also, yes the speed limit should be bumped to 80 (atleast).

Personally though, I like highway 36 better. 20% of the traffic, none of the bullshit, and its speedlimit of 65 isn't that much slower.
Solliz  [Member]
1/23/2012 10:25:37 AM EST
I use 36 all the time from St. Joe to Macon. It's nice not being surrounded by idiots on the road. The only thing I-70 has going for it is playing count the porn stores between kc and columbia.
Spkr_Bldr  [Member]
1/23/2012 4:44:45 PM EST
Hey, I have an idea ... instead of a toll road, how about not pissing away my taxes on usless BS projects given to step cousin-in-laws and put it toward something that actually serves the public interest. How's that sound? Radical I know.
eric10mm  [Moderator]
1/23/2012 10:14:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1911smith:
Toll will be paid at the pump. Increased fuel tax for trucks and road tax for anything on pneumatic tires with a tail pipe.

Gas usage is not declining, much. If Since they aren't properly maintaining the roads now, what are they doing with all the gas taxes they get now?
1873spfd  [Member]
1/24/2012 1:54:43 AM EST
They better find another $B to fix up US 50. That is where a lot of us will go to avoid the toll.
Andrew7934  [Team Member]
1/24/2012 9:56:37 AM EST
I hope it becomes a toll road and they jack up taxes some more..... just another nail in their coffin as far as Im concerned, corrupt shitbags.
GaryM  [Member]
1/24/2012 11:46:36 AM EST
Missouri is broke and as such they are going to look for new ways to squeeze a few bucks out of the general public. Red light cameras can only do so much ya know.
Flatulence  [Team Member]
1/24/2012 12:56:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By GaryM:
Missouri is broke and as such they are going to look for new ways to squeeze a few bucks out of the general public. Red light cameras can only do so much ya know.

Heaven forbid the .gov experience a layoff like the private sector has been...

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