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Intruder Shot By Homeowner In Fenton
5/5/2012 7:04:15 PM
http://fox2now.com/2012/05/02/intruder-shot-by-homeowner-in-fenton/ (Link prolly won't work, never do to news sites)
OK, which one of you guys shot the guy in the leg vs head or midsection??? Glad you ok, but nex time don't pitty'em and put'em down for good... He was playin for keeps.
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Thanks for your good training, this made Fox 2 news.
A burglar
attacked me in my home and demanded money while holding MY XD40 loaded
& chambered. That is the only night I forgot to take it to bed.
After getting body slammed (broke 3 ribs) I knew I was dead, so I rolled
over & got my Glock, racked & fired. Police say it was a good
shoot. I was groggy when woke from a sound sleep and had milliseconds to
make my decision. Thanks to your training I got one in him. I am still
freaked out over it & feel even worse that I shot him but if I
didn't I would be dead.
Several channels wanted my interview but being
still freaked I said 'No comment'. Now I feel I should have done the
interviews & told the news that without your training and methods I
would be dead. So thanks for your excellent training course. Now I gotta
go to Hillsboro with my bill of sale & try to get my guns back.
Name withheld
Here is the Fox2 link
5/5/2012 7:15:22 PM
Link works this time 
Glad the home owner made it out alive and did what he had to do. As you said, if it was me and i just got slammed and had ribs broken, I wouldn't be aiming for the leg.
Glad the home owner made it out alive and did what he had to do. As you said, if it was me and i just got slammed and had ribs broken, I wouldn't be aiming for the leg.
5/5/2012 11:14:45 PM
I read the article it sounded as if the police did not want the home owner shooting someone and they had to determine the state of mind of the property owner.
First comment picked up on that too. Jefferson Country PD is usually pro gun so that surprises me to see that in the article.
First comment picked up on that too. Jefferson Country PD is usually pro gun so that surprises me to see that in the article.
5/6/2012 12:01:23 AM
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his gun back? That's bs
5/6/2012 3:17:07 AM
According to the first link:
"Jefferson County Sheriff spokesman Capt. Ron Arnhart said no charges
will be filed against the property owner. He said in a shooting like
this police must determine the shooter`s frame of mind.
‘You are going to have to articulate your actions on why you acted the way that you did,’ said Arnhart."
I am glad that the homeowner prevailed. However Capt. Arnhart is ignorant.
5/6/2012 3:58:14 AM
Originally Posted By eric10mm:
I am glad that the homeowner prevailed. However Capt. Arnhart is ignorant.
According to the first link:
"Jefferson County Sheriff spokesman Capt. Ron Arnhart said no charges will be filed against the property owner. He said in a shooting like this police must determine the shooter`s frame of mind.
‘You are going to have to articulate your actions on why you acted the way that you did,’ said Arnhart."
I am glad that the homeowner prevailed. However Capt. Arnhart is ignorant.
he sure is
that is one reason you do not talk to the police no matte what
5/6/2012 9:03:01 AM
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
5/6/2012 10:37:59 AM
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
5/6/2012 10:47:56 AM
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
I'm not 100% sure on that. Why I said it like that. Maybe someone who is more familiar with the law can straighten that out.
5/6/2012 10:51:06 AM
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
Exactly. This is a total crock of shit. They confiscated his property, if they think it's illegal or stolen it should be up to them to prove it, not the other way around.
5/6/2012 10:57:59 AM
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
I'm not 100% sure on that. Why I said it like that. Maybe someone who is more familiar with the law can straighten that out.
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
Originally Posted By cheapsandwich:
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Why the hell does he have to take his bill of sale to get his guns back? That's bs
Fixed. I believe in any shooting you have to prove the gun is yours and legal. Also, in this case the robber took one of the owner's guns. So when the cops came by and saw the owners gun in the robbers hand, they will assume it's the robbers and not the owners.
WTF.....bill of sale. I might be able to scrounge around and find a half dozen receipts for guns that I may not even own anymore and bill of sale...yeah that's not happening. That's some BS right there.
I'm not 100% sure on that. Why I said it like that. Maybe someone who is more familiar with the law can straighten that out.
I highly doubt it has anything to do with law....just department policy and typical JBT bullshit.
