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NY and what constitues a "machine gun".
6/6/2012 2:30:42 PM
Honest question;
Does NY have some extra factors in what constitutes a MG, on top of the federal guidelines? I've just never read into MG's and NY, since I know real MG's are plain no-go here.
I ask, because whenever the bump-fire stocks are brought up here in the NYHTF, people seem to be extra cautious about it. Meanwhile, if you read around elsewhere, people are buying and using these stocks all over the rest of the US without a care in the world.
Does NY have some extra factors in what constitutes a MG, on top of the federal guidelines? I've just never read into MG's and NY, since I know real MG's are plain no-go here.
I ask, because whenever the bump-fire stocks are brought up here in the NYHTF, people seem to be extra cautious about it. Meanwhile, if you read around elsewhere, people are buying and using these stocks all over the rest of the US without a care in the world.
6/6/2012 2:53:32 PM
Penal Law 265(1) defines machine gun.
Penal Law 265.02(2) sets forth the crime of possessing a weapon simulating a machine gun.
Penal Law 265.02(2) sets forth the crime of possessing a weapon simulating a machine gun.
6/6/2012 8:02:16 PM
PL 265.00(1): "Machine-gun" means a weapon of any description, irrespective of size, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which a number of shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a sub-machine gun.
So I guess belt-feds are good to go if it isn't designed to accept a magazine.
Anybody wanna try to get a CLEO sign off?
So I guess belt-feds are good to go if it isn't designed to accept a magazine.
Anybody wanna try to get a CLEO sign off?6/6/2012 8:05:22 PM
Originally Posted By CombatMP:
PL 265.00(1): "Machine-gun" means a weapon of any description, irrespective of size, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which a number of shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a sub-machine gun.
So I guess belt-feds are good to go if it isn't designed to accept a magazine. Anybody wanna try to get a CLEO sign off?
PL 265.00(1): "Machine-gun" means a weapon of any description, irrespective of size, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which a number of shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a sub-machine gun.
So I guess belt-feds are good to go if it isn't designed to accept a magazine.
Anybody wanna try to get a CLEO sign off?Remember, pre-ban links. Lawls
6/7/2012 7:02:07 AM
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
6/7/2012 9:56:33 AM
Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
Ah, this is the kicker here.
That's what I was looking for. Thanks. I can see why people are so cautious about these stocks in NY then.
6/7/2012 1:53:30 PM
Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
So that means fingers must pull slower and no Pants/shorts belt loops?
6/7/2012 2:26:53 PM
simulating machine gun good look trying to convince a jury that your pulling the trigger very fast, semi autos oh no they are machine gunz!
6/7/2012 3:12:45 PM
Originally Posted By DefMan:
So that means fingers must pull slower and no Pants/shorts belt loops?
Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
Don't forget 265.20(2): prohibits "any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use"
So that means fingers must pull slower and no Pants/shorts belt loops?
Don't get caught with an AK and shoe laces!
