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EdwardAvila
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Posted: 10/24/2012 1:06:50 PM

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There are many ways a second term for President Barack Obama threatens the rights of gun owners. He wants to bring back the 1994 semi-auto ban; his administration has already imposed an illegal registration scheme on certain rifle sales; and there is no way to know how far he would go to use his executive powers to curb our rights if he didn't have to face reelection.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 1:22:45 PM

Originally Posted By EdwardAvila:

There are many ways a second term for President Barack Obama threatens the rights of gun owners. He wants to bring back the 1994 semi-auto ban; his administration has already imposed an illegal registration scheme on certain rifle sales; and there is no way to know how far he would go to use his executive powers to curb our rights if he didn't have to face reelection.

I am so glad he got questioned about this because otherwise he would have been allowed to lay behind the log. He's on the record now that he wants and assault weapons ban and Lord only knows what that would entail.

I got my voting done first thing this morning. The race in Texas that is just as important in my mind is that for the senate. Ted Cruz is the man for that job.

If people are still undecided at this point about the POTUS, please, just stay home. You obviously haven't cared enough to educate yourself. This administration is the least transparent of any in my lifetime and the attitude of circumventing Congress and having "my way at all costs" has to stop. Given his disregard for Congress, the only check and balance left is in the Supreme Court and if he gets back in this country will be in serious peril, judicial activism will be the norm and the constitution will be all but extinct.

This guy simply has to go and it needs to be in such a fashion that the pursuit of lawsuits challenging the election would be worthless.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 1:35:55 PM
VOTE FREEDOM FIRST!
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I always carry a gun so I cant get into any kind of a fight but a gun fight.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 1:51:12 PM
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Posted: 10/24/2012 2:23:20 PM
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Posted: 10/24/2012 2:26:48 PM
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Posted: 10/24/2012 3:45:32 PM
he knew he was shooting himself in the foot even before the words came out of his mouth.

listen to him choke and stumble right before saying reinstate the assault weapons ban
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Posted: 10/24/2012 4:33:00 PM
I found it amusing that an "undecided voter" decide to ask 0bama a question that he wanted nothing to with and I'd be willing to bet she thought that she was helping him.

Vote Freedom First. It is also vote for a strong economy and someone who won't Apologize for America too.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 5:21:09 PM
Staying home is a vote for Obama.

I honestly belleve that we will follow the path of Greece finacially and see even stricter gun bans than the 1984 AWB if BHO gets another 4 years.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 5:27:29 PM
Originally Posted By Dogue:
Staying home is a vote for Obama.

I honestly belleve that we will follow the path of Greece finacially and see even stricter gun bans than the 1994 AWB if BHO gets another 4 years.


They learned their lesson last time. We won't be able to get around the next ban with a few cosmetic changes.

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Posted: 10/24/2012 5:46:34 PM
I think that Obama is not the right choice for this country.... but for the life of me i cant figure out how anybody could draw the conclusion that Mitt Romney is any better. How replacing a thieving liar with a lying thief is the answer i guess I will never know.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 5:55:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Brutus2:
I think that Obama is not the right choice for this country.... but for the life of me i cant figure out how anybody could draw the conclusion that Mitt Romney is any better. How replacing a thieving liar with a lying thief is the answer i guess I will never know.


Wow, the list goes on: 0bama is anti business, gun, capitalism, freedom, etc. Romney is none of these things. How do you back up your statement that Romney is a lying thief?

Here is a bit of insight I posted in another thread about the so called AWB in MA signed by Romney. And since this is a gun related forum, here's quick example of their differences on guns:



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Posted: 10/24/2012 5:56:02 PM

Originally Posted By eric496:
Originally Posted By Dogue:
Staying home, or idealistically voting for a 3rd party candidate who has no chance of being elected, is a vote for Obama.

I honestly belleve that we will follow the path of Greece finacially and see even stricter gun bans than the 1994 AWB if BHO gets another 4 years.


They learned their lesson last time. We won't be able to get around the next ban with a few cosmetic changes.

Fixed.

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Posted: 10/24/2012 6:23:04 PM
I will never understand their(liberals) fear and lack of understanding of an inanimate object. A gun is no more harmful than a screwdriver.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 6:55:43 PM
Interesting discussion but I'm only concerned right now with getting rid of the current anti-gun zealot. If Romney should win and starts down that path I'll work just as hard to get rid of him too. I really don't think he'd be that stupid. I only hope that every gun owner sees the threat for what it is and gets out there and votes. Surely there are enough of us to be able to make a difference!
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Posted: 10/24/2012 7:25:01 PM
Originally Posted By GC456:
VOTE FREEDOM FIRST!


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Posted: 10/25/2012 8:21:39 AM
My family and I will do our best to swing NH red again.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:45:18 AM
after I heard him say this I ordered 3 more upper's from palmetto state armory and filled out a few SBR registration forms
maybe this is his way of jump starting the economy
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Posted: 10/25/2012 2:35:52 PM
It's interesting to me that the stated point of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the people the ability to overthrow their own government and yet the current President says that the only place that automatic (sic) weapons belong is in the hands of soldiers.

Our own Constitution FORCES us to be soldiers, this is clear to me.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 4:57:22 PM

Originally Posted By spclk:
It's interesting to me that the stated point of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the people the ability to overthrow their own government and yet the current President says that the only place that automatic (sic) weapons belong is in the hands of soldiers.

Our own Constitution FORCES us to be soldiers, this is clear to me.

While it is readily apparent that O is, and perhaps willfully, ignorant of the intent of the 2nd, resistance to an internal tyranny is only one of the contingencies we are to prepare for :

In the Armed Forces EXCEPT the National Guard (Army or Air)

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

In the National Guard (Army or Air)

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.


However futile some may think the effort might be, providing an armed resistance to a domestic enemy is only one of the contingencies addressed in the 2nd.

Every service member has pledged an oath to " support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;" That same oath would be required of every able bodied male between 17 and 45 years of age* should the militia be called up.

    *Who is the militia?


The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia."

That means that anyone who meets the above stated requirements, and is NOT in the National Guard/Naval Militia, and is not excepted in the next paragraph, IS in the unorganized militia.

So .... Who isn't the militia?


(a) The following persons are exempt from militia duty:
(1) The Vice President.
(2) The judicial and executive officers of the United States, the several States, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.
(3) Members of the armed forces, except members who are not on active duty.
(4) Customhouse clerks.
(5) Persons employed by the United States in the transmission of mail.
(6) Workmen employed in armories, arsenals, and naval shipyards of the United States.
(7) Pilots on navigable waters.
(8) Mariners in the sea service of a citizen of, or a merchant in, the United States.
(b) A person who claims exemption because of religious belief is exempt from militia duty in a combatant capacity, if the conscientious holding of that belief is established under such regulations as the President may prescribe. However, such a person is not exempt from militia duty that the President determines to be noncombatant.


There are other dire (and just as likely) circumstances which would make the militia call-up of those 17 and 45 year old men who aren't already serving in the armed forces necessary. And if things have gotten so bad that we need to put 45 year old men on the battlefield, they (we) won't have the luxury of months of training.

It would be to everyone's benefit if those called-up for militia duty could arrive already well-versed in the use and application of all available and militarily useful arms.

Currently, and at the most basic level of skills, there really isn't another kind of rifle would better fulfill the intended use of the 2nd amendment but an AR-15/M4 type rifle or carbine, and Beretta M9 type pistol, in exactly the configuration, and with all of the accouterments, as used by servicemen in their duties and qualification, and civilian Service Rifle and Pistol competitors at Camp Perry
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Posted: 10/25/2012 5:18:28 PM
Originally Posted By GC456:
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Posted: 10/25/2012 10:43:26 PM
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Originally Posted By GC456:
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Posted: 10/26/2012 2:40:39 AM

Originally Posted By Brutus2:
I think that Obama is not the right choice for this country.... but for the life of me i cant figure out how anybody could draw the conclusion that Mitt Romney is any better. How replacing a thieving liar with a lying thief is the answer i guess I will never know.

In this day and age with the wealth of info at our fingertips it is incredible how many people have no clue about anything, you seem to fall into that catagory. Mitt Romney is as close to pure as the driven snow as a man can be in 21st century America. Please stop listening to the leftist media and seek the truth. Romney would never stoop to the shenanagins that O pulls every day. You can have America returned to greatness or see us fall into oblivion, make the right choice.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 2:53:23 AM
He needs to go SOOn.He is a Liar,Cheat,Communist and for 5Million dollars to his favorite charity he is also self serving.Good riddens.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 8:09:01 AM
If the bummer wins, he has 4 years left with nothing to lose. Even Chris Rock said, he was "going to do gangster sh*t in his second term. I don't take much consideration into when sports figures or actors give their bias opinions because they dont live everyday like the majority of us who get up early and go to work 8-5 m-f. This one mans opinion was alarming though.

Obama is a liar. He has all of those poor people who think he is actually doing good for them fooled. He reminds me of the Pied Piper of Hameln, playing his little flute while they all sing and dance behind them in a daze as he leads them to their unfortunate end of deeper poverty and distress. Should we feel sorry for them buying into his lies? No because, they think they are going to get something for free and that they deserve it. America was not built on entitlement and is not great because of it. America is where people came to work hard have the opportunity to get above others. America needs an attitude adjustment and if what is happening right in front of your eyes isnt enough, maybe we need to hit rock bottom real hard to do a turnaround. The problem with that is, I think there is a plan in place to keep that turnaround from happening when we are at ourt weakest point.

Sorry to stray, but in conclusion, the semi-auto ban is just the icing on the cake to buy votes for the people who want a litte more control because of their concern for violence. Implementation of the complete desctruction of the second ammendment could be on the way.
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