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Posted: 6/30/2011 1:26:57 AM
Originally Posted By kalash74:
Are you talking about the release button setup for the Yugo or the standard one that is going to replace the one with the spacer that many of us want to exchange? I'm talking about the release button catch specific to the Yugo. The standard one to replace the spacer model is already a done deal. |
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Liquidmetal
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Posted: 6/30/2011 6:30:17 AM
Originally Posted By Rafaga: Originally Posted By Liquidmetal: Any progress on the Yugo version? Yup  Finished up a prototype yesterday. Was able to get the button issue resolved so that it won't be necessary to remove the release button catch from the rear trunnion. Should have the CNC code finished up by the weekend and will knock out a few test pieces by the following week. By the way, these Yugos are a lot nicer than most of the other AKs out there. Cheers Very cool. Looking forward to it. |
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Posted: 6/30/2011 10:02:53 PM
Originally Posted By Rafaga:
Originally Posted By kalash74:
Are you talking about the release button setup for the Yugo or the standard one that is going to replace the one with the spacer that many of us want to exchange? I'm talking about the release button catch specific to the Yugo. The standard one to replace the spacer model is already a done deal. Hello Rafaga, Just wondering, will the spacer-equipped version be withdrawn from the market? If not how should I specify my choice for the non spacer-equipped version during ordering on line? |
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Posted: 6/30/2011 11:25:30 PM
Originally Posted By wulkyrie:
Hello Rafaga, Just wondering, will the spacer-equipped version be withdrawn from the market? If not how should I specify my choice for the non spacer-equipped version during ordering on line? The spacer version will be an option for the Saiga 308 guys. We'll add a separate part number for it and update the website in a day or two. |
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Posted: 7/1/2011 10:24:57 AM
Originally Posted By Rafaga:
Originally Posted By wulkyrie:
Hello Rafaga, Just wondering, will the spacer-equipped version be withdrawn from the market? If not how should I specify my choice for the non spacer-equipped version during ordering on line? The spacer version will be an option for the Saiga 308 guys. We'll add a separate part number for it and update the website in a day or two. Thx |
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Posted: 7/1/2011 10:34:59 AM
Can I buy the non spacer button only? Mine seems to be ok with the spacer, but would like the option.
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Posted: 7/1/2011 8:01:08 PM
[Last Edit: 9/3/2011 5:07:41 AM by Kersey]
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Posted: 7/3/2011 5:34:52 AM
Well hear I go sounding like a broken record. I've skimmed the 70+ pages of this thread. So is it normal for the push button to be flush with the cover? After appropriate sanding, and oiling the button seats completely in the rear trunion with the top cover up. But upon closing it, the button remains flush with the cover...so it's not seated properly??? I cycled the action multiple times, and the button is still flush. So my question is, will the non-spacer version fix this issue?
ETA on the replacement buttons? Thanks  |
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Posted: 7/3/2011 5:55:29 AM
Originally Posted By Rafaga:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Any progress on the Yugo version? Yup
Finished up a prototype yesterday. Was able to get the button issue resolved so that it won't be necessary to remove the release button catch from the rear trunnion. Should have the CNC code finished up by the weekend and will knock out a few test pieces by the following week. By the way, these Yugos are a lot nicer than most of the other AKs out there. Cheers Yes! I put a wad of cash away as soon as i saw the normal version. Cant wait to give it to you |
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Posted: 7/3/2011 1:17:05 PM
Fatal05-You don't want the button all the way to the rear with the top cover closed. It needs to have movement to the rear to adjust for any wear as you fire the rifle. It if were at the rear to start with you would have no more adjustment and the cover could become loose over time. The button does need to be able to travel all the way to the rear of the trunion with the cover open. It sounds like yours is about perfect.
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Posted: 7/3/2011 3:58:12 PM
Originally Posted By acr1:
Fatal05-You don't want the button all the way to the rear with the top cover closed. It needs to have movement to the rear to adjust for any wear as you fire the rifle. It if were at the rear to start with you would have no more adjustment and the cover could become loose over time. The button does need to be able to travel all the way to the rear of the trunion with the cover open. It sounds like yours is about perfect. Thanks. It was just a bit worrisome because the button doesn't stick out at all––making it hard to field strip. Others with SGL31's seem to have the button stick out at least a little bit. |
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Posted: 7/3/2011 4:16:58 PM
[Last Edit: 7/3/2011 4:18:17 PM by fuzzy03cls]
Yeah Fatal05 you have it right. Mines the same way. And in fact when I close the cover I can see that the spacer shifts the spring forward purposely so the cover closes over it & then locks it into the cover.
As long as it doesn't pull open by hand when you grab it hard it is fine. So far I have 450 flawless rounds. You could also adjust the cover a little more to see if it will go any more rearward. |
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Posted: 7/3/2011 4:53:34 PM
My Siaga .308 had the opposite problem. It let the original button move all the way to the rear. Rafga made me a new button that needed sanding to fit and fixed the problem, then came out with the version with the spacer version. The spacer works perfectly on my rifles. The AK has so many variations in the parts that being able to fit the part a bit to your rifle is a good thing. I think you will find your button will move a bit more to the rear as you shoot the rifle, so I would shoot it as is and see.
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larrythetuna
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Posted: 7/5/2011 6:00:31 PM
Yes my turn. My TWS Dog-Leg rail has arrived with instructions and an Allen wrench! After reading 70 pages of this thread I was almost intimidated about the install. My bad I forgot that many in our hobby have no mechanical ability at all. Total install time was 15 min. on an Sgl-20. And that was on the living room floor with a flat blade screwdriver,claw hammer(first hammer I found)and an old t shirt. All of this with my Russian red Dobie trying to help me. Slapped the Primary arms red dot on her and she's good to go. Might swap that out for an Eotech XPS. Since I am at present working in the peoples republic of Maryland range report will be forthcoming as soon as one of my control techs takes me to his overpriced gun club.
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Posted: 7/10/2011 3:20:05 AM
Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls:
Can I buy the non spacer button only? Mine seems to be ok with the spacer, but would like the option. This. Anyone know if they're available? |
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Posted: 7/18/2011 11:35:30 AM
Rafaga,
Any word on the progress on a rear flip-up sight? |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 12:56:42 AM
Originally Posted By kalash74:
Rafaga, Any word on the progress on a rear flip-up sight? Although I now consider the red dot to be my primary sight, I would say that the standard peep is so low that I wouldn't pay extra for one that flips down. Until someone comes up with a good low-mount 3x magnifier mount, the lower 1/4 co-witness makes for a pretty clutter-free view through the Micro. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:20:17 AM
[Last Edit: 7/25/2011 2:23:03 AM by GreenJelly]
Originally Posted By Suburban:
Originally Posted By kalash74:
Rafaga, Any word on the progress on a rear flip-up sight? Although I now consider the red dot to be my primary sight, I would say that the standard peep is so low that I wouldn't pay extra for one that flips down. Until someone comes up with a good low-mount 3x magnifier mount, the lower 1/4 co-witness makes for a pretty clutter-free view through the Micro. I think he means a dual flip aperature sight, while still low. 
So you'd end up with something like this:  |
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Liquidmetal
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Posted: 7/25/2011 6:41:42 AM
Originally Posted By GreenJelly: Originally Posted By Suburban: Originally Posted By kalash74: Rafaga, Any word on the progress on a rear flip-up sight? Although I now consider the red dot to be my primary sight, I would say that the standard peep is so low that I wouldn't pay extra for one that flips down. Until someone comes up with a good low-mount 3x magnifier mount, the lower 1/4 co-witness makes for a pretty clutter-free view through the Micro. I think he means a dual flip aperature sight, while still low. http://www.nelsontactical.com/products/images/accessories/PM137.jpg So you'd end up with something like this: http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9718/editedh.jpg A windage adjustable, dual aperture rear peep would be great. I have the same thing on my Krebs rail and it is by far the best AK rear sight I have ever used. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 7:24:40 PM
[Last Edit: 7/25/2011 7:25:11 PM by kalash74]
Originally Posted By GreenJelly:
Originally Posted By Suburban:
Originally Posted By kalash74:
Rafaga, Any word on the progress on a rear flip-up sight? Although I now consider the red dot to be my primary sight, I would say that the standard peep is so low that I wouldn't pay extra for one that flips down. Until someone comes up with a good low-mount 3x magnifier mount, the lower 1/4 co-witness makes for a pretty clutter-free view through the Micro. I think he means a dual flip aperature sight, while still low. http://www.nelsontactical.com/products/images/accessories/PM137.jpg http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9718/editedh.jpg No, actually I just wanted a basic single aperture flip-up sight so I'd have a uncluttered sight picture with my micro. However, I actually don't have the fixed peep sight. Are you guys saying that the fixed peep sight doesn't get in your field of view when you run a micro dot? |
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Posted: 7/26/2011 2:32:30 AM
When using your micro-dot, you don't pay any attention to your sights, or for that matter the micro-dot tube either. You shoulder your weapon & get a cheek weld, with "BOTH EYES OPEN", you look at your target. If your head & eyes are in the correct position, you'll see the red aiming dot on your target. Micros are actually easier to use, the further away they are from your eye. Don't look through the micro tube, as you might using a magnified scope. It feels a little strange at first, but it'll come to you eventually. Good luck
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Posted: 7/26/2011 12:34:05 PM
[Last Edit: 7/26/2011 12:35:07 PM by kalash74]
Originally Posted By bushwack:
When using your micro-dot, you don't pay any attention to your sights, or for that matter the micro-dot tube either. You shoulder your weapon & get a cheek weld, with "BOTH EYES OPEN", you look at your target. If your head & eyes are in the correct position, you'll see the red aiming dot on your target. Micros are actually easier to use, the further away they are from your eye. Don't look through the micro tube, as you might using a magnified scope. It feels a little strange at first, but it'll come to you eventually. Good luck So are you saying the fixed peep doesn't come into your FOV when you do this? Do you have to deliberately look for it for it to show up? I guess I could try the fixed peep and see how it goes, but I was waiting to see if Rafaga comes out with a flip-up...he said that he was going to develop one a ways back. |
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Posted: 7/26/2011 3:24:51 PM
Any issues anticipated with installing this on a Vepr?
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Posted: 7/26/2011 4:23:53 PM
Originally Posted By Krater:
Any issues anticipated with installing this on a Vepr? You'll need the trusty Dremel to fit it to the RPK trunion. Just match your stamped cover and you'll be good to go.  . |
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Posted: 7/27/2011 3:08:16 AM
Originally Posted By kalash74:
Originally Posted By bushwack:
When using your micro-dot, you don't pay any attention to your sights, or for that matter the micro-dot tube either. You shoulder your weapon & get a cheek weld, with "BOTH EYES OPEN", you look at your target. If your head & eyes are in the correct position, you'll see the red aiming dot on your target. Micros are actually easier to use, the further away they are from your eye. Don't look through the micro tube, as you might using a magnified scope. It feels a little strange at first, but it'll come to you eventually. Good luck So are you saying the fixed peep doesn't come into your FOV when you do this? Do you have to deliberately look for it for it to show up? I guess I could try the fixed peep and see how it goes, but I was waiting to see if Rafaga comes out with a flip-up...he said that he was going to develop one a ways back. It really depends on how close micro is to the fixed sight. If you separate then as much as possible, you simply look over the fixed sight to use the micro. By doing it that way, the peep sight will only be a blur, almost unnoticeable. At first you may have to look for the dot until you get accustomed to using it. Your brain is doing all the work here. If you're shooting right handed, your right eye is seeing the dot & your left eye is seeing the target. The brain puts both images together & you see the dot on the target. Also I believe Nelson was thinking of building an adjustable rear sight, not just a folder, as the rear sight sits very close to the rail. |
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