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Lancelot
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:38:42 AM
Hi guys,

My son is 20 this year. He is an accomplished shooter and likes black powder stuff. He also likes the "Pirates" line of movies. So for Christmas I need some help.

Any recommendations for a pistol, flintlock or percussion, that would fit the bill as a pirate pistol? I'm thinking it should be flint but I'm open to suggestions.

TIA
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Posted: 12/3/2011 12:39:37 PM
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I think any of them would be good, depends on how "traditional" he wants to be. Also are you getting him a KIT or the one already done. looks like most are flint lock

I think the kits are cool, gives someone a chance to build / assemble it and refinish stock, etc


Pirate bootie...................

http://www.piratemerch.com/pirate-weapons-guns-c-67.html


Blunderbuss FTW!!!



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Posted: 12/3/2011 1:17:06 PM
You might want to check out the Traditions line of black powder pistols. They have a good selection:

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I have the .50 caliber percussion "Trapper" pistol.......

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Posted: 12/3/2011 3:03:22 PM
Originally Posted By mic214:
You might want to check out the Traditions line of black powder pistols. They have a good selection:

Traditions

I have the .50 caliber percussion "Trapper" pistol.......

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/Firearms/DSC_0008.jpg




Thanks. I think we have the first nominee.





The blunderbuss is cool too, but I want something that actually shoots.

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Posted: 12/3/2011 3:18:46 PM
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The blunderbuss is cool too, but I want something that actually shoots.

I found this one.



http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket9.htm

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First off a true "pirate pistol" is unpossible unless you go custom built.
Percussion = FAIL. Must be flint, doglock, wheellock, or matchlock.
About the closest you'll get in the available reproductions today is the Pedersoli Queen Anne or some of the Indian made guns sold here: http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/

I'm dying wanting one of these : http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/DoublePistols.shtml

I can't say what the quality is on the indian guns.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 4:06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
First off a true "pirate pistol" is unpossible unless you go custom built.
Percussion = FAIL. Must be flint, doglock, wheellock, or matchlock.
About the closest you'll get in the available reproductions today is the Pedersoli Queen Anne or some of the Indian made guns sold here: http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/

I'm dying wanting one of these : http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/DoublePistols.shtml

I can't say what the quality is on the indian guns.


We're dealing with Indian replicas for a while. Solid, good finish, appear handmade.
We stuck a #209 primer conversion and shot a rubber ball with only the primer as propellent.
Cool toy.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 7:36:42 AM
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In the page I listed for the Blunderbuss, they state that they supplied the props for the recent Pirates of the Caribbean movie. They suggest the English Sea Service Pistol, which came in two lengths. The one page you listed has those. The theory is that pirates took them from the English and used them as their own. Sounds plausible.





http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/NEWess1756.shtml

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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:19:21 AM
Build him a TOW kit, he will cherish it forever.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartList.aspx?catID=13&subID=77&styleID=300

Or you could buy him a Traditions Pirate Pistol:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols-Revolvers|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/Traditions8482-50-Caliber-Flintlock-Pirate-Pistol/1243694.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-black-powder-pistols-revolvers%2F_%2FN-1100201%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104503680%3FWTz_l%3DPPC%253Bcat104701680&WTz_l=PPC%3Bcat104701680%3Bcat104503680

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Posted: 12/5/2011 11:34:27 AM
Check Dixie Gun Works
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Posted: 12/11/2011 7:52:31 PM
The "Golden Age" of piracy was circa 1670-1720. Thus, percussion guns made their appearance more than 100 years after piracy had died out, and would be completely anachronistic.

Most of the reproduction flintlock guns on the market are also of a later design than 1720.

What you're really looking for is something like this:
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=12&subId=81&styleId=287&partNum=AAJ-211

For a good general discussion of pirate pistols, take a look at this:
http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/arms.htm
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Posted: 12/11/2011 8:35:10 PM
I might have to build me one now.
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Posted: 12/19/2011 3:03:27 AM
It kind of comes down to do you want to be period correct or not. If you are talking Golden Age of Piracy it is generally considered to end with the death of Roberts in 1722 which eliminates anything thereafter. A Queen Anne pistol, any dog lock or miquelet lock pistol would be correct. Also keep in mind that these weapons are hand made so there were a great deal of variations so as long as you pick something that is not of a design that is specifically form a later period it will suffice. A really nice piece for a pirate is the double pistol offered by Middlesex Village Trading Company.


Queen Anne


dog Lock


Miquelet lock pistol - note this is an original Spanish pistol. if you want one of these you will most likely have to have it made.


Double pistol

Fair winds mate... ;)
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Posted: 1/21/2012 12:25:46 PM
I would take a look at "Loyalist arms" in New Brunswick . Bliar Higgins has done right by me .
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Originally Posted By Rocklock:
I would take a look at "Loyalist arms" in New Brunswick . Bliar Higgins has done right by me .
Gary


I agree. I bought my french 1720's cavalier drogoon pistol from them and it's awesome.
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Lets get real






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