I'm not giving up gentlemen. My Krinkov has been build with another parts kit from Copes, i do not need this kit or want it.
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Sanddragger28 - has not made this transaction right, he says its out of his hands. I believe that he is responsible for it. I have seen people on this forum PermaBanned for Welching. He is part of a Scam (fraud) and is still using this forum freely.

The man that he brokered the sale to will not answer my calls or emails. I am awaiting confirmation from the US Postal Inspector about my case against him.

I believe that most people would agree that a New Test Fired Saiga 12 w/ 3x 10rd mags, a 5rd mag and a tapco Conversion stock/pistol grip; is the Equivalent of a Bulgarian Krinkov (5.45) Kit. I bought my 5.45 Bulgy Krink kit from Copes w/ matching numbers for $787 SHIPPED. I had 2 people in line for the Saiga12 combo for $850 shipped.

I posted them (Sanddragger28/Josh) selling another demilled Krinkov kit on Gunbroker. The reason for the post was to display their knowledge of a complete krinkov kit and that my transaction was not an accident.

After a tedious inspection of the krink kit (random parts) that they sent me; i have come to this conclusion:
1.Barrel looks to be made from a Bulgy long rifle and can never be used again due to the method it was chopped with
2.Rear Hinge block is for 7.62, not for 5.45
3.Trigger Guard has been demilled very badly and cannot be used
4.Mag catch has been badly demilled (Cut halfway up) and cannot be used
5.Recoil assembly is not for a krinkov, but is a Romanian with rust pits
6.Missing Krinkov Muzzle Brake
7.Missing Stock catch parts for sidefolding

What can i say, i would appriciate a little justice on this forum

thank you all
Rubert

A few reminder photo's of the parts i received.

If these yo-yo's haven't rectified the issue yet...they probably won't and maybe a civil suit would have to be filed to get your money back.

But I agree that this Sanddragger28 person should be perma-banned...and in the HOS.

I locked him out of the EE back when this issue came up. He brokered the deal, so that was his punishment. If he'd been the main one involved, I would have banned him from the site. But that title falls squarely on his friend, who is not a member here that I'm aware of.

HOS

I locked him out of the EE, then a senior staffer took over the case. What happens to Sanddragger28 after that moment is out of my hands. Even if Sanddragger28 is banned from the site, it isn't going to get rube79 his shotgun back. The ONLY recourse he has is in the legal arena. There is NOTHING that the site can do if the other party does not wish to reverse the trade.

Again, rube79 knows the senior staffer he needs to contact about this, as they have discussed this privately before. And he should feel proud –– his poll is the only one that will ever be in the EE. They have always been disabled in the EE, but were accidentally allowed with the new site upgrade. I have since notified Goatboy, who has turned them off again.

I understand.

Same here M4Madness i know you are one hell of a person and i appriciate that. I just dont want this transaction to swept under the rug. And honestly, it feels pretty damn cool knowing i have the only poll in the EE.

I really appriciate everyone and it feels good knowing some people/members support other members like this.

thank ya'll
Rubert

BTT

Is this guy going to be put in the HOS or not??

If it were me the first thing I would do is report MY shotgun as stolen. Then pursue the legal avenues.

I had the same idea, but my attorney told me that was a bad idea. He told me to pursue via USP Inspector 1st then go the civil route.

Thanks
Rube

He just deleted it.

[quote]Originally Posted By cARpenter15:
There is another thread over on GT where he is talking about how great his Saiga is

That's interesting. I thought Sandragger claimed the Saiga was actually bought by a "Josh". Hmmm.....

Do you have a post to the link?

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=953455

The post was almost 2 months old, but he just edited out all references to actually owning the shotgun yesterday after I posted here. I believe his exact words were " I Sure Love Mine". He is obviously still watching this thread.
He is a deuchebag of the highest order.

It makes me wonder if it wasn't actually a straw purchase as originally questioned in the other thread. If Christian/Sandragger28 is now claiming that he owns the Saiga in question, it sounds like he had someone else purchase if for him. Rupe said someone named Josh actually signed for the Saiga at the FFL dealer.

This keeps getting more interesting and I hope Rupe has some legal recourse.

I wonder if there are any screenshots of the thread where Sandragger28 brags how much he loves his new Saiga?

Rupe, is this Sandragger28/Christian Lopez guy military? Maybe you should contact his commander. The military does not view dishonest transactions favorably.

This guy and this Josh guy should both be banned form the EE and from the site as well as HOS!

WOW, looks like you only edited the threads that were relevant to this scam, huh?

Really? So were you bragging how great "your" Saiga shotgun was or not on another board? Simple question and you have some explaining to do.

I just got back from my friend's today. Thanks again for the replies all. Magnumtc, another member did help me check on the military possibility. I think your on to something though. Christian Lopez may not exsist and Josh is using him as his imaginary scapegoat. We have a Lawyer that wants to sell/trade items online. He sets up an account in forums/gunbroker/email with a universal handle, like mine "rube79". He buys/sells a few small items and posts from time to time; in order to increase his "reputation". Sells/trades guns for a "friend"/himself thru EEs/gunbroker. If/when a deal goes sour, he uses the fall back of "i was only the messenger please deal with the Lawyer". The vic assumes that his issue is not with the universal handle, but with a Lawyer; thus holding the integrety of his reputation.

Description for Item # xxxxxxx

Im selling this for a friend of mine who is a local Attorney in DFW area.He is always in court and wanted me to list this for him.This is an all matching numbers Bulgarian AK74SU.And yes it has the next to immpossible to find trigger guard housing with it.This kit has some beautiful wood on it and this kit is the nicest kit I have ever seen.This was a Kvar kit and has been sitting in a sealed package for the last 8 years.Everything is perfect about this kit from the finish to the barrel its just perfect.If I were to build a Krink this would be the kit I would want.All parts are included except the receiver and 922r compliance parts.This is an original Krink barrel which are no longer being imported.This is one of the last krinks kits you will find. Bid with confidence.
[Information added 12/15/2008 12:41:06 AM]
Caliber is 5.45x39

[Information added 12/15/2008 4:09:54 PM]
There is no parts missing on this kit everything is there and is all matching.I also have a new East German 30rd Bakelite for this kit.

This was sold, but the Buyer never left feedback...... I wonder why? Was he not satisfied with the transaction?

A dirty Lawyer would know the in's and out's of creating a scam. I really do appriciate everyone for looking out for me and the interest of other possible vics/buyers.

Thank ya'll
Rube

Rupe, what was the date this Christian Lopez/Josh picked up the Saiga from the FFL you sent it to. I went back and looked at the Glock thread and he originally posted on 12/25/08 how much he "loved his Saiga". He edited it out of his post on 2-14-09. I just to make sure the dates jive. I think you should forward this info to M4Madness and Aimless. I hope he/they are banned and added to the HOS. What a slimeball, actually bragging about great your Saiga is when he claims he did not actually purchase it.

Rube, that Krink turned out great! At least all was not a total loss. Keep us informed on how this progresses. Oh, and post more pics when you get to shoot that beauty!

I locked him