 Lumpy196
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Posted: 2/1/2010 2:32:20 PM
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NoMoAMMO
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Posted: 2/1/2010 2:44:38 PM
Sweet
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Eyegun 
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Posted: 2/1/2010 8:52:52 PM
How can you be sure there's really a Galil under all that crap?
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Lumpy196
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Posted: 2/1/2010 11:23:51 PM
Originally Posted By Eyegun:
How can you be sure there's really a Galil under all that crap? Its the same "crap" the Israeli and the United States Armed Forces hang on their M4s. Sorry the world has progressed past 1982. |
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Lumpy196
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Posted: 2/1/2010 11:23:54 PM
[Last Edit: 2/1/2010 11:24:09 PM by Lumpy196]
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TenMile
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Posted: 2/2/2010 12:37:22 AM
Sweetness!
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HawkCreek
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Posted: 2/2/2010 12:49:12 AM
Awesome! Now I just need an IMI Galil
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Teniferman
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Posted: 2/2/2010 4:31:04 PM
[Last Edit: 2/2/2010 4:36:15 PM by Teniferman]
Spoke to some of the Troy guys at SHOT and they are still tweaking the rail a bit so it will fit both 5.56 and 7.62 rifles. That's good news for me since I have a 7.62 version. Good looking rail in person. I like the replacement folding stock they have for AR extensions and buttstocks (not shown except in the pictures but is in the paper catalog along with the new charging handle also shown in the pictures), finally adjustable LOP!!!
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rotaryeye
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Posted: 2/3/2010 7:37:08 AM
I like it! That Troy stock never looked right on an AR but it just looks at home with a Galil.
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HK51Fan
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Posted: 2/3/2010 9:57:19 PM
What are you going to do if you want to remove the top cover? I have a Galil and am looking for a rail system the only one I liked was the isrealy model, but it was almost 500 bucks, so this is a great alternative.
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jyuzamas
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Posted: 2/4/2010 7:43:33 PM
[Last Edit: 2/5/2010 1:44:54 PM by VA-gunnut]
Edited...VA-gunnut |
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TenMile
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Posted: 2/4/2010 9:10:51 PM
Wow! What a wonderfully practical addition to a Galil and at a great price. I my opinion it eliminates the major weaknesses of the design. That being the limited means to mount optics or other accessories. I'll have one in the near future.
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HK51Fan
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Posted: 2/4/2010 11:49:53 PM
Man i really like the rail system you're selling if you could sell it for a bit less I would love to have one, I just can't justify the extra 150.00
Do you have a discount for members or do you guy's ever have sales on these? I'm not trying to be cheap just asking. |
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Melvin_Johnson
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Posted: 2/13/2010 10:28:20 PM
Doesn't that rail interfere with disassembly? Surely the rail doesn't have to be removed to pull the top cover off....
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Rosco45
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Posted: 2/15/2010 10:08:54 AM
I just got off the phone with Tech Support at Troy and they said that the rail must be removed to remove the Galil's top cover. That was fairly evident from the photos, but there it is direct from the manufacturer.
I'll have to decide whether of not this is a deal-breaker for me. I like the Galil platform, but modern red-dot sights offer so many advantages. Currently, I'm running a cut-down UTG rail (I sawed off the portion that extends back over the receiver) with an Aimpoint T1 out atop the forend. The surgury on the UTG wasn't about top cover removal (it's high enough to allow the top cover to be removed). It was about that portion of the rail blocking access to the charging handle. Given that the Galil lacks a bolt hold-open, every reload involves running the bolt. Making this harder and slower to do just didn't compute, so out came the hacksaw. In one sense, it is nice that Troy has kept the rail nice and low. However, on my UTG experiment, I initially mounted the T1 using the factory integral mount. It was too low, in that I saw way too much front sight hood in my optic's field-of-view. The full protective "ring" of the Gaili front sight contributes to this. If it were AR-style "wings" it would be better. I switched to a low LaRue mount and it raised it enough to improve the situation. Higher would be better in terms of a clear field of view, but even the low LaRue mount puts the optic a bit too high. Useable, but a bit too high. Rosco |
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mojo
O'Donut!!! You, hairy fatass !!!!
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Posted: 2/15/2010 2:55:23 PM
Very darn nice. |
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Posted: 2/18/2010 9:04:11 AM
Originally Posted By Rosco45:
In one sense, it is nice that Troy has kept the rail nice and low. However, on my UTG experiment, I initially mounted the T1 using the factory integral mount. It was too low, in that I saw way too much front sight hood in my optic's field-of-view. The full protective "ring" of the Gaili front sight contributes to this. If it were AR-style "wings" it would be better. I switched to a low LaRue mount and it raised it enough to improve the situation. Higher would be better in terms of a clear field of view, but even the low LaRue mount puts the optic a bit too high. Useable, but a bit too high. Rosco Rosco - back in 84 there was a magazine article that talked about some mods to the Galil to enhance its useful. One was cutting the top off the front site ring to get it out of the field of view. That is another option. Here is a link http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124964 |
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Rosco45
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Posted: 2/18/2010 11:30:12 AM
I remember Chuck Taylor's "Taylor-made" 7.62x51 Galil quite well. His reasoning for chopping the front sight hood didn't involve any optics. He just thought that the full ring was slower and more difficult to use in iron sight usage.
I heard, through a reliable source, that Taylor had to pay full dealer price for the T&E Galil he chopped up. Most of the time, the gun companies will offer the T&E guns to the gunwriters at a deep sub-wholesale discounted price. Not that there's necessarily any quid pro quo going on, but it just makes good business sense to try to have an example of your product in a respected writer's and/or trainer's hands. Students see it and want one. It ends up being used in other articles, et cetera. Anyhow, Chuck figured that this was going to be a low-cost "keeper" and had the modifications made. The Galil importer (I can't recall if it was Magnum Research or Action Arms), surprised him with a not-very-discounted price. He had already modified it, so he couldn't just return it. Rosco |
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pdm
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Posted: 2/19/2010 10:20:55 PM
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Anyone know whose stock that is in the bottom photo.....? and how it's attached?
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Jim_X
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Posted: 3/2/2010 11:34:28 AM
Originally Posted By Rosco45:
I remember Chuck Taylor's "Taylor-made" 7.62x51 Galil quite well. His reasoning for chopping the front sight hood didn't involve any optics. He just thought that the full ring was slower and more difficult to use in iron sight usage. Rosco Chuck Taylor is an ass, and is the singular reason that I stopped buying "Swat" magazine, let my subscription lapse,...as well as not buying, even today, any magazine that runs an article by him! I have this mag you mentioned in my collection....as well as the one where he is on the cover, allowing himself to be shot, in order to "test" various bullet proof vests. Taylor is the only editor I know of, who was roundly criticized by OTHER magazine editors in their op-ed pieces...the man was a true ass! |
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Rosco45
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Posted: 3/2/2010 11:57:23 AM
Well, Chuck always seems to inspire strong reactions...one way or the other.
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swatbwana
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Posted: 3/19/2010 10:24:43 AM
Chucks not losing any sleep over it!!
I cut the ring on my MP5s with aimpoints as well the ringed top ruins the quick sight picture of the aimpoint |
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okguy91
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Posted: 3/20/2010 5:49:18 PM
I like it better than the utg
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ikor
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Posted: 4/14/2010 5:40:03 AM
Anyone know who makes that extension on the bolt handle? I have seen the handles heated and bent outward but not that extension before. One or the other would almost certainly be necessary to run the bolt quickly without slicing your hand up I would think.
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Tom_Troyind
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Posted: 7/22/2010 7:16:09 PM
Originally Posted By Rosco45:
I just got off the phone with Tech Support at Troy and they said that the rail must be removed[/span] to remove the Galil's top cover. That was fairly evident from the photos, but there it is direct from the manufacturer. I'll have to decide whether of not this is a deal-breaker for me. I like the Galil platform, but modern red-dot sights offer so many advantages. Currently, I'm running a cut-down UTG rail (I sawed off the portion that extends back over the receiver) with an Aimpoint T1 out atop the forend. The surgury on the UTG wasn't about top cover removal (it's high enough to allow the top cover to be removed). It was about that portion of the rail blocking access to the charging handle. Given that the Galil lacks a bolt hold-open, every reload involves running the bolt. Making this harder and slower to do just didn't compute, so out came the hacksaw. In one sense, it is nice that Troy has kept the rail nice and low. However, on my UTG experiment, I initially mounted the T1 using the factory integral mount. It was too low, in that I saw [span style='font-weight: bold;']way too much front sight hood in my optic's field-of-view. The full protective "ring" of the Gaili front sight contributes to this. If it were AR-style "wings" it would be better. I switched to a low LaRue mount and it raised it enough to improve the situation. Higher would be better in terms of a clear field of view, but even the low LaRue mount puts the optic a bit too high. Useable, but a bit too high. Rosco This is incorrect. the Tech support guy was wrong. The rail does not have to be remove to replace the top cover. There is enough room to slide the rail out from under the rail. |
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Tom_Troyind
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Posted: 7/22/2010 7:25:33 PM
Here the rail installed on a Indumil Galil
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